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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 29, 2017 18:52:36 GMT -5
But what you fail to mention is that all brit bots were available for purchase with gold and WP..... Now all new bots are available either for real money or IP, or components. You cannot buy these as you could buy brit bots... I did say pixonic is a business and that they need to make money. And we, as consumers, get to ask "How much is enough?"
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Post by garunixreborn on Nov 30, 2017 1:51:28 GMT -5
You don't like dash bots? Neither do i. But i would prefer facing them instead of diamond league's cancerous treb/gekko/homing spam. And one more point to add, i already shared with you my hangar and youtube channel as proof that i dont have any dash bots. You can't really deny that fact unless you are rock headed, which i know most people on this forum are not. I do understand that people got outraged at the pricing of the dash bots, but please understand where i am going with this. Just recognise that a similar thing happened in the past. And calling Adrian Chong "a marketing machine for pixonic" is not going to help. There are only 3 youtubers who quit the game. They happen to be Phoenix, Blitheran and Lloyd le-mar. As for phoenix, he seemed fine at first but as he released his last few War Robots videos during the last month he started becomin suspicious to me with the overexcessive negativity and not to mention his video on why he quit (which is pretty easy to debunk). Blitheran, i respect his opinion because he showed proof of these bots being overpowering, playing with them and getting 2.1 million damage + the full dash squad (PS pure ancilot squads were an absolute pain). Lloyd le-mar i also respect because he made very valid points just like blitheran did. And as for those "Insiders", How many do you think there are? There is Desperado, Predator, TCB, Stewpendous, Adrian Chong, Manni, Bagofsoup and Droopy sack that all still play the game. Are they ALL insiders who secretly work for or have a connection to pixonic? I think 8 vs 3 is a bit excessive. And simply calling me "not open to reason" isn't going to help. Just realise that pixonic did this on purpose so that the leagues don't get overloaded with these bots. Tell me. How many of these bots do you have and how many lancelots and galahads do you have. Can you see my point now? They didn't want to overload the meta with them, which they succeeded in. If you are complaining about them, then imagine a britbot meta where everyone had the britbots all over the place. Now imagine those were replaced by dashes. Wouldn't that be fun.
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Post by TravLar on Nov 30, 2017 2:19:56 GMT -5
I opened a 2nd account to try to escape the DIESS madness and its just appalling how much this crap has changed the game. I've been playing just 5 days and I'm facing dashes already. I remember my first time through the lower levels well. I was getting pitted against PDB when I was still a long way away from grinding one. The whale option was there then too, sure. The difference is simply a matter of degrees on 2 fronts; a) its wasn't nearly as expensive, and b) the OP effect wasn't nearly as stark.
The early game now will quickly filter out those that can't/won't spend A LOT of money on it. No doubt Pix knows this and figured out that the whale community is big enough. But there are millions of us who really like the game as it was and invested a lot of time and a reasonable amount of RM in it. Now we're getting the rug pulled out from under our feet.
Are we pissed? Of course we are!
This condescending defense of the route that Pix has chosen is misguided.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 2:41:56 GMT -5
If you are complaining about them, then imagine a britbot meta where everyone had the britbots all over the place. Now imagine those were replaced by dashes. Wouldn't that be fun. However, it would be a level playing field. As it is, I've lost count of the times one person has dominated the game, either on blue or red team, with a Haechi. On either they're practically guaranteed the top spot. How much fun is it to be fodder or a groupie?
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 30, 2017 9:13:38 GMT -5
Well did you like the fact that everyone had britbots back in the day? Pixonic CLEARLY stated they didn't want to overload the meta with dash bots by making them readily available. They made that mistake with the britbots and almost every high league player had a full hangar of them. So before you go off repeating the same old "the problems with the dash bots are that they are not readily available" just toss whatever you have heard from phoenix's video out of the window because that guy is full of BS. The points are: 1) they are a business. They NEED to make money 2) they purposely made the dash bots hard to get so that they wouldn't immediately overload the meta like the galahads and lancelots did. 3) Appreciate the fact that they even give us a black market and roulette spin. They are giving us things for free. They have never done this before. 4) if you don't like excessive dash bots, go to diamond league. There you will find less dash bots and more hydras, orkans, gekkos and trebuchets. FUN! 1. Well yeah, who doesn't? 2. Nope, it was a cash grab, see point 1. at $300 a bot thats a 600% increase on the price of a lance.... If they didn't want to "overload the meta" they could have just listened to the feedback from test server and balanced it (that;s what the whole test server is for after all!) 3. Roulette spin has been around for AGES during events but you won WHOLE items. I had been playing 3 months when the anniversary event hit and I won Fury, 3 Zues, Lance, 2 * Galahad, a few orkans and a bit of other stuff, total expenditure by me, 4600 gold and it catapulted me straight into competing with the vets. Players joining the game now will never have that opportunity 4. spot the tanker!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 9:30:28 GMT -5
You don't like dash bots? Neither do i. But i would prefer facing them instead of diamond league's cancerous treb/gekko/homing spam. And one more point to add, i already shared with you my hangar and youtube channel as proof that i dont have any dash bots. You can't really deny that fact unless you are rock headed, which i know most people on this forum are not. I do understand that people got outraged at the pricing of the dash bots, but please understand where i am going with this. Just recognise that a similar thing happened in the past. And calling Adrian Chong "a marketing machine for pixonic" is not going to help. There are only 3 youtubers who quit the game. They happen to be Phoenix, Blitheran and Lloyd le-mar. As for phoenix, he seemed fine at first but as he released his last few War Robots videos during the last month he started becomin suspicious to me with the overexcessive negativity and not to mention his video on why he quit (which is pretty easy to debunk). Blitheran, i respect his opinion because he showed proof of these bots being overpowering, playing with them and getting 2.1 million damage + the full dash squad (PS pure ancilot squads were an absolute pain). Lloyd le-mar i also respect because he made very valid points just like blitheran did. And as for those "Insiders", How many do you think there are? There is Desperado, Predator, TCB, Stewpendous, Adrian Chong, Manni, Bagofsoup and Droopy sack that all still play the game. Are they ALL insiders who secretly work for or have a connection to pixonic? I think 8 vs 3 is a bit excessive. And simply calling me "not open to reason" isn't going to help. Just realise that pixonic did this on purpose so that the leagues don't get overloaded with these bots. Tell me. How many of these bots do you have and how many lancelots and galahads do you have. Can you see my point now? They didn't want to overload the meta with them, which they succeeded in. If you are complaining about them, then imagine a britbot meta where everyone had the britbots all over the place. Now imagine those were replaced by dashes. Wouldn't that be fun. Dude, you're new, play in the little leagues and you havn't got a clue about what the game was or how it is in high leagues. Therefore you have no basis for (most of) the claims you make. So just stop.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Nov 30, 2017 12:56:59 GMT -5
The main thing is the massive cost, and the fact of getting it in spins. Pix could have just fixed them. The hachei is the main one considored op, the others? No. What we need is a large nerf to haechia and them available for gold. the kumino is on the levels of the rog, si it is fine, and the blugiaia is slow, being a good heavy. Make the haechia have much health, so it is comparable to a carnage.
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Post by inspirace on Nov 30, 2017 14:18:00 GMT -5
The game is a game, Pix is the business. Oh, also, I don't use Youtube. and for that matter, FB, ?roast beef?ter, or the rest of it. This continues my annoyance that you go in game to see 'news' and get redirected elsewhere. They might just as well post it in the game. As to if you're P2W or F2P, I don't give a monkey's which it is. I've no idea who you are. Champion or Bronze? Don't care. That your comparing apples to oranges / Dash to Britbot, is, when all is said and done, laughable. One achieved a new meta, that with a little work, most could achieve. The other, simply, is broken while also being nigh on unachievable for most. One achieved a new meta that completely dominated the field on both sides, killed all the variety you could have wanted and led to the inevitable buff of the tulumbas and orkan. The other led to no serious buffs and still allowed room for other bots, keeping the game fun and actually challenging rather than boring, and preventing the any league below expert from being overloaded with them. If dash bots are pissing you off, then you can grab some zeuses, grab some scourges and just zap the life out of them. one (britbots etc) dominated meta. the other (DEISS) broke the game into shatters. britbot meta was diversifying already when Punishers and Tempests starting to shred both types of shields, Pix could have stopped there. Dash bots, concept-wise, had a potential to add to the gameplay and fun. but somehow Pix made them the most powerful, fastest, and also survivable among all, ignoring any sense of balancing. and then they put ridiculous price tags. that much could have been okay. I can still deal with Dash bots using teamworks and skill. but how about Shocktrucks? it’s not just P2W, it’s the quality of gameplay getting demised. you keep talking about using Zeus Fury to fight Dashes. please try that against Bulgasaries with 3x Shocktrucks Mk2. and sitting in Zeus Fury while Dashes zapping around to cap beacons? good luck with winning,
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Post by Russel on Dec 1, 2017 2:48:07 GMT -5
You don't like dash bots? Neither do i. But i would prefer facing them instead of diamond league's cancerous treb/gekko/homing spam. And one more point to add, i already shared with you my hangar and youtube channel as proof that i dont have any dash bots. You can't really deny that fact unless you are rock headed, which i know most people on this forum are not. I do understand that peop le got outraged at the pricing of the dash bots, but please understand where i am going with this. Just recognise that a similar thing happened in the past. And calling Adrian Chong "a marketing machine for pixonic" is not going to help. There are only 3 youtubers who quit the game. They happen to be Phoenix, Blitheran and Lloyd le-mar. As for phoenix, he seemed fine at first but as he released his last few War Robots videos during the last month he started becomin suspicious to me with the overexcessive negativity and not to mention his video on why he quit (which is pretty easy to debunk). Blitheran, i respect his opinion because he showed proof of these bots being overpowering, playing with them and getting 2.1 million damage + the full dash squad (PS pure ancilot squads were an absolute pain). Lloyd le-mar i also respect because he made very valid points just like blitheran did. And as for those "Insiders", How many do you think there are? There is Desperado, Predator, TCB, Stewpendous, Adrian Chong, Manni, Bagofsoup and Droopy sack that all still play the game. Are they ALL insiders who secretly work for or have a connection to pixonic? I think 8 vs 3 is a bit excessive. And simply calling me "not open to reason" isn't going to help. Just realise that pixonic did this on purpose so that the leagues don't get overloaded with these bots. Tell me. How many of these bots do you have and how many lancelots and galahads do you have. Can you see my point now? They didn't want to overload the meta with them, which they succeeded in. If you are complaining about them, then imagine a britbot meta where everyone had the britbots all over the place. Now imagine those were replaced by dashes. Wouldn't that be fun. 1) I know for a fact that they are, and not "secretly" or something. Which is NOT making them "bad" or "hideous" people. 2) I got zero Gal, single Lance, but TWO Kumiho and one Bulgasari 3) Don't care about "pricing", care about "unbalanced" stuff. As I said, it's quite easy to counter Ancilot\Gal (just keep you range and use Tulumbas - Lance can't catch you, Gal can't overpower you) Once again, those bots are fast AND durable AND got heavy firepower. The only thing that can defeat them is higher skill level, which you probably have when you see them in the field.
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Post by acdcfan on Dec 1, 2017 3:11:01 GMT -5
You don't like dash bots? Neither do i. But i would prefer facing them instead of diamond league's cancerous treb/gekko/homing spam. And one more point to add, i already shared with you my hangar and youtube channel as proof that i dont have any dash bots. You can't really deny that fact unless you are rock headed, which i know most people on this forum are not. I do understand that people got outraged at the pricing of the dash bots, but please understand where i am going with this. Just recognise that a similar thing happened in the past. And calling Adrian Chong "a marketing machine for pixonic" is not going to help. There are only 3 youtubers who quit the game. They happen to be Phoenix, Blitheran and Lloyd le-mar. As for phoenix, he seemed fine at first but as he released his last few War Robots videos during the last month he started becomin suspicious to me with the overexcessive negativity and not to mention his video on why he quit (which is pretty easy to debunk). Blitheran, i respect his opinion because he showed proof of these bots being overpowering, playing with them and getting 2.1 million damage + the full dash squad (PS pure ancilot squads were an absolute pain). Lloyd le-mar i also respect because he made very valid points just like blitheran did. And as for those "Insiders", How many do you think there are? There is Desperado, Predator, TCB, Stewpendous, Adrian Chong, Manni, Bagofsoup and Droopy sack that all still play the game. Are they ALL insiders who secretly work for or have a connection to pixonic? I think 8 vs 3 is a bit excessive. And simply calling me "not open to reason" isn't going to help. Just realise that pixonic did this on purpose so that the leagues don't get overloaded with these bots. Tell me. How many of these bots do you have and how many lancelots and galahads do you have. Can you see my point now? They didn't want to overload the meta with them, which they succeeded in. If you are complaining about them, then imagine a britbot meta where everyone had the britbots all over the place. Now imagine those were replaced by dashes. Wouldn't that be fun. You still don't get the difference between brit and dash bots. Brit bots were obtainable for a gold price and reasonable one. Dash bots are not. And yes, I do consider Adrian to be Pixonic's marketing machine. He alone, puts out more videos than all others put together and he does some giveaways when he is live on YouTube channel Again, stop falling their total and utter bull$h!t about overloading the market. Even with brit bots meta was never overloaded, but with dash bots different story. If dash bots were reasonably obtainable for a gold price, I can't see a problem. It will come down to who has bigger supplies of gold. Meta with slowly stabilize its self and players would be happy. To this date, since release of dash bots, meta is still there. Even now they are not releasing them for any of in game currency but components. You need to stop spinning the same story and argument as it does not stack up.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Dec 1, 2017 7:37:13 GMT -5
You don't like dash bots? Neither do i. But i would prefer facing them instead of diamond league's cancerous treb/gekko/homing spam. And one more point to add, i already shared with you my hangar and youtube channel as proof that i dont have any dash bots. You can't really deny that fact unless you are rock headed, which i know most people on this forum are not. I do understand that people got outraged at the pricing of the dash bots, but please understand where i am going with this. Just recognise that a similar thing happened in the past. And calling Adrian Chong "a marketing machine for pixonic" is not going to help. There are only 3 youtubers who quit the game. They happen to be Phoenix, Blitheran and Lloyd le-mar. As for phoenix, he seemed fine at first but as he released his last few War Robots videos during the last month he started becomin suspicious to me with the overexcessive negativity and not to mention his video on why he quit (which is pretty easy to debunk). Blitheran, i respect his opinion because he showed proof of these bots being overpowering, playing with them and getting 2.1 million damage + the full dash squad (PS pure ancilot squads were an absolute pain). Lloyd le-mar i also respect because he made very valid points just like blitheran did. And as for those "Insiders", How many do you think there are? There is Desperado, Predator, TCB, Stewpendous, Adrian Chong, Manni, Bagofsoup and Droopy sack that all still play the game. Are they ALL insiders who secretly work for or have a connection to pixonic? I think 8 vs 3 is a bit excessive. And simply calling me "not open to reason" isn't going to help. Just realise that pixonic did this on purpose so that the leagues don't get overloaded with these bots. Tell me. How many of these bots do you have and how many lancelots and galahads do you have. Can you see my point now? They didn't want to overload the meta with them, which they succeeded in. If you are complaining about them, then imagine a britbot meta where everyone had the britbots all over the place. Now imagine those were replaced by dashes. Wouldn't that be fun. You still don't get the difference between brit and dash bots. Brit bots were obtainable for a gold price and reasonable one. Dash bots are not. And yes, I do consider Adrian to be Pixonic's marketing machine. He alone, puts out more videos than all others put together and he does some giveaways when he is live on YouTube channel Again, stop falling their total and utter bull$h!t about overloading the market. Even with brit bots meta was never overloaded, but with dash bots different story. If dash bots were reasonably obtainable for a gold price, I can't see a problem. It will come down to who has bigger supplies of gold. Meta with slowly stabilize its self and players would be happy. To this date, since release of dash bots, meta is still there. Even now they are not releasing them for any of in game currency but components. You need to stop spinning the same story and argument as it does not stack up. it is not all the dashes, mostly the haechi. the kumino is almost the same as the rog, and the blugasia is good speed, health, and weapon wise for a heavy, as i believe it was meant to be. That is why only the haechi has been nerfed.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 2, 2017 16:38:10 GMT -5
The main thing is the massive cost, and the fact of getting it in spins. Pix could have just fixed them. The hachei is the main one considored op, the others? No. What we need is a large nerf to haechia and them available for gold. the kumino is on the levels of the rog, si it is fine, and the blugiaia is slow, being a good heavy. Make the haechia have much health, so it is comparable to a carnage. You'll get your haechi nerf, I can almost guarantee it. About 0.00035 seconds after I finally get one.
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Post by Russel on Dec 2, 2017 18:13:42 GMT -5
The main thing is the massive cost, and the fact of getting it in spins. Pix could have just fixed them. The hachei is the main one considored op, the others? No. What we need is a large nerf to haechia and them available for gold. the kumino is on the levels of the rog, si it is fine, and the blugiaia is slow, being a good heavy. Make the haechia have much health, so it is comparable to a carnage. You'll get your haechi nerf, I can almost guarantee it. About 0.00035 seconds after I finally get one. I suggest a KickStarter campaign. All the people who dislike the Haechi should put some money for Danny and buy him a Haechi, so it will be nerfed at instant.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 2, 2017 18:40:34 GMT -5
You'll get your haechi nerf, I can almost guarantee it. About 0.00035 seconds after I finally get one. I suggest a KickStarter campaign. All the people who dislike the Haechi should put some money for Danny and buy him a Haechi, so it will be nerfed at instant. And scourges and shocktrains.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Dec 2, 2017 20:05:49 GMT -5
I suggest a KickStarter campaign. All the people who dislike the Haechi should put some money for Danny and buy him a Haechi, so it will be nerfed at instant. And scourges and shocktrains. I've made the decision to NOT spend WSP on any current content. Instead I'm going to bank it all up for the next OP release. Will be doing the same for gold once I open my second hangar.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 2, 2017 20:08:08 GMT -5
And scourges and shocktrains. I've made the decision to NOT spend WSP on any current content. Instead I'm going to bank it all up for the next OP release. Will be doing the same for gold once I open my second hangar. That's probably the smarter thing to do. I'm just not that smart.
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Post by hyderier on Dec 3, 2017 9:05:44 GMT -5
And scourges and shocktrains. I've made the decision to NOT spend WSP on any current content. Instead I'm going to bank it all up for the next OP release. Will be doing the same for gold once I open my second hangar. Of course that assumes the next OP content can be had for any current currency type... I find that unlikely. Then again, it could be that Pix removes at least WSP completely, and then compensates those with WSP stockpiles fairly...
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Dec 3, 2017 10:07:16 GMT -5
I've made the decision to NOT spend WSP on any current content. Instead I'm going to bank it all up for the next OP release. Will be doing the same for gold once I open my second hangar. Of course that assumes the next OP content can be had for any current currency type... I find that unlikely. Then again, it could be that Pix removes at least WSP completely, and then compensates those with WSP stockpiles fairly... Yep, it's a calculated risk. If I end up losing out I'll happily accept it. I'm choosing the possibility of hitting new content early with the risk of losing the resource over the possibility or hitting new content with the risk of hitting it late in the meta. I can always change my mind if I don't like the way the wind is blowing... but of course that would, in many ways, defeat the purpose. we shall see!
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Post by hyderier on Dec 3, 2017 10:29:00 GMT -5
Of course that assumes the next OP content can be had for any current currency type... I find that unlikely. Then again, it could be that Pix removes at least WSP completely, and then compensates those with WSP stockpiles fairly... Yep, it's a calculated risk. If I end up losing out I'll happily accept it. I'm choosing the possibility of hitting new content early with the risk of losing the resource over the possibility or hitting new content with the risk of hitting it late in the meta. I can always change my mind if I don't like the way the wind is blowing... but of course that would, in many ways, defeat the purpose. we shall see! I suggest you stick to it. I kinda started collecing Au and WSP for dash bots in June. But then at some point (50k WSP or something) I stopped gathering WSP, and then I even bought a Fujin just to try it out (took it to 9, but not my kind of bot so just gatheres/gathered dust). And then Au, I had quite a nice stockpile, but spent 2500 testing the new spinners to verify they were scams (I was rather fed up with the game at that point, so didn't care), and then spent a lot to get Tempest (which is ok I guess). End result, I am nowhere near getting a dash bot, Haechi to be precise, even though I have more or less saved for it for 6 months (currently War Robots is uninstalled on my Android so nothing happening, though). So, my point: saving is potentially rewarding. Just stick to it, keep your goal and don't get sidetracked or give up (like I did).
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