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Post by SuperHero on Nov 23, 2017 6:14:57 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League and I've noticed over the last 1-2 days that the MM seems WAY more balanced than before. I have not encountered anything lower than Expert in the last 48 hours.
Trying to be hopeful for everyone, but I'd like to hear more from others, especially from Diamond folk about how the MM is currently treating them.
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Post by zigzak0110 on Nov 23, 2017 6:24:27 GMT -5
Maybe they applied the new MM from Android a couple days ago to IOS.
I'm on Android and i notice since the 3.4 update the MM often put solo players into battle against a crowded team (more than 4 players). 6 random players vs full or almost full squad. This rarely happens before so i guess they have adjusted some algorithm into the MM.
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Post by Tatamat on Nov 23, 2017 6:28:40 GMT -5
Speaking for Gold I and Silver III, MM is better. No experts in Gold I matches so far, max. Gold III in Silver.
Waiting if Legendary Pilot queue will help as well, I still see Silver I hangars lvl 11/12.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2017 6:41:01 GMT -5
 Thought may be good to share that with mm interesteds |
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 23, 2017 7:06:47 GMT -5
i am happy with the new MM. they know they were capable of doing this long ago. Idk why...maybe too much vodka the night before work.
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Post by hjn on Nov 23, 2017 7:16:44 GMT -5
much better games lately, shoot up to 62%
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Post by TravLar on Nov 23, 2017 7:32:37 GMT -5
On iOS
In short, as of last night, in Expert I was getting exposed to anybody right up to Champs. In Diamond I play against Expert but never Masters or Champs.
I come across Expert players when I'm in Diamond but never seen anybody 3600 or higher, so that's mostly Expert 3 and it makes for good matches. In fact all the games I play in Diamond seem to be fairly matched; sometimes I'm one of the highest ranked players and sometimes one of the lower ranked.
The moment I move into Expert that changes; I immediately start getting put in Matches with Champs, Masters, etc... Not every game, there is still a spread where sometimes I'm highly ranked in comparison, with Diamond players in the match, and sometimes I'm the lowest - usually with a correspondingly levelled play in the Red team.
What really baffles me though is that when I'm in Diamond I play against pretty much zero DIESS. Just a couple of Kumies. Is the MM keeping those hangars out or has everybody who got DIESS gear already risen to Expert and above? I mean if I didn't get a msg saying I've been promoted to Expert I could tell you within three games that my league had changed. In my experience, when I'm in Diamond I play against Experts sometimes, but never an Expert with Dashes or Shttrains. Weird. |
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Post by TravLar on Nov 23, 2017 7:46:26 GMT -5
Thought may be good to share that with mm interesteds You know - I read this and I just have to wonder on what planet my 3200 ranking and light hangar competes fairly in a battle with Champ with 5x Haechi Mk2 12/12 hangar and 16,846 ranking, 20 kills in a battle, and 5k victories and 9666 winged trophies (whatever those are - I have none)?
Maybe it would help if they told us what exactly MM is supposed to achieve? Is it a 50% win rate? 30au a day? Maybe they they want us in 1/3 games where we are the heros, 1/3 that are tough and 1/3 we have to be cannon fodder? If we knew, maybe the MM is doing its job very well.
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Post by ironstar on Nov 23, 2017 7:47:44 GMT -5
I am in expert 3 on android. Getting matched with D1, E3 and E2 almost exclusively. Highest have been a couple of Masters 3 and a single tanking champion running five lvl 6 Leos.
A pleasant experience, mercifully light on Haechis too although there are quite a few kumihos probably from the event. Have only gone against a single shocktrain user so far
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Post by Estoplast on Nov 23, 2017 7:49:44 GMT -5
Speaking for Gold I and Silver III, MM is better. No experts in Gold I matches so far, max. Gold III in Silver. Waiting if Legendary Pilot queue will help as well, I still see Silver I hangars lvl 11/12. My gold account sees diamond/expert virtually every match. Android also. In my main account after seeing only experts being expert i quickly advanced to master. I guess starting using Haechi had also quite a lot to do with it. Now i see 3 types of matches. Only expert, only mk2 deiss hell and mix of masters and champs. Turns out there are not so few masters afterall. Once saw 8 of them in one battle. |
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Post by Alpha on Nov 23, 2017 7:50:37 GMT -5
Wish they would sort out the MM on facebook gameroom as it is even worse than the other two servers.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 23, 2017 9:46:16 GMT -5
I'd say its going well so far in gold. I see mostly gold, 1 or 2 hi silver and rarely a diamond. Matches have been tough but my team hasnt really been steamrolled yet. Its good to see that the tide of battle changes a few times as well. That means teams are well matched in my book.
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Post by inspirace on Nov 23, 2017 20:11:23 GMT -5
I am not sure. a battle just finished now was 3 experts, 2 masters, and 1 champ vs. a 6-champ all-Dash squad:  looks just as usual, ... EDIT: I think the expert / diamond division has been clear for a while already. I am in the master league and haven’t seen a diamond player for quite some time, maybe even months, unless they are part of a squad. I guess the best thing that could happen to fix MM is to combine platforms (not a big fan of hangar-based MM). if that is not feasible, Pix could add a “First available” mode (the name was from amidf) to the current Domination and Beacon Rush modes. so that willing pilots can be inserted to any mode that currently need a participant. this way, players can enjoy a faster battle start and MM will have larger pool of players to work with. ... |
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Post by T34 on Nov 23, 2017 21:16:01 GMT -5
Calnnies all across the leagues are commenting that the MM allocation appears to be narrower most of the time than before. the wide spread of leagues are less common. This is a positive move if true.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 23, 2017 22:22:35 GMT -5
Judging by the pilot names Ive been seeing, It feels more like priority is given to regionality now.
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Post by dougdanger on Nov 23, 2017 23:02:21 GMT -5
Expert 2 on iOS here. Glad you mentioned it- I thought it was just me, but I've felt like the matchmaking has been a bit more balanced over the last few weeks. Sure, I still get paired up with a couple of red Champs or masters here and there, but at least there's an equal number of blues to match. And, amazingly enough I'm seeing occasional matches of mostly expert vs expert! Weird, right? Those ones are almost always nail biters, closely fought and great fun.
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Post by BLYTHE on Nov 23, 2017 23:28:35 GMT -5
I doubt it; I think it's just crests and troughs--the wavelength varies from player to player. I'm still getting pounded by MK2 but anticipate some respite in a few days (hopefully).
Er, can anyone get me up to speed on what DIESS means? Thanks!
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 23, 2017 23:58:43 GMT -5
The League in last version wasn't the issue here it was more the of firepower and the aggressive of player playstyle, the MM would throw me up against those guys while I was team up with idiots . Since this update released I noticed a lot players were within my tier hangar, as i am fighting red I don't feel I'm struggling as much as before.
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Post by inspirace on Nov 24, 2017 0:04:25 GMT -5
I doubt it; I think it's just crests and troughs--the wavelength varies from player to player. I'm still getting pounded by MK2 but anticipate some respite in a few days (hopefully). Er, can anyone get me up to speed on what DIESS means? Thanks! Dash, Inquisitor, Ember, Scourge, and Shocktrain, basically all those new fancy stuff, |
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Post by Estoplast on Nov 24, 2017 0:09:18 GMT -5
I doubt it; I think it's just crests and troughs--the wavelength varies from player to player. I'm still getting pounded by MK2 but anticipate some respite in a few days (hopefully). Er, can anyone get me up to speed on what DIESS means? Thanks! Dash, Inquisitor, Ember, Scourge, and Shocktrain, basically all those new fancy stuff, Due to my german/finnish influence mix i call it deiss. It feels just wrong for me to call it diess |
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 24, 2017 4:03:06 GMT -5
Expert on Android has changed a lot and for the better. No more Champs, mostly very balanced matches and hardly any DIES. Unless you encounter some assclowns from a Top 50 clan that boost their activity cups by clubbing Experts with their Haechis. But it's very rare for me.
The game is a lot more fun now, it's like a new game after grinding against Champs in Expert III/II for months. I've moved up to 4000 points and sometimes I'm one of the bigger fishes in the pond when some Expert III show up.
Does anyone know if Masters get mixed up with Champs now?
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 24, 2017 4:09:14 GMT -5
much better games lately, shoot up to 62% If you mean your win rate is 62%, i don't see how that correlates to the MM being better. Just because you win more could easily mean that the MM is worse because your opponents are too weak. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 4:49:57 GMT -5
...Unless you encounter some assclowns from a Top 50 clan that boost their activity cups by clubbing Experts with their Haechis... I'm sure the guys with Haechis don't wanna play you any more than you wanna play them, so consider moderating your language please. Unless of course they tank so they can club players in lower leagues, in which case I fully agree that they are assclowns.
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Post by hjn on Nov 24, 2017 5:02:24 GMT -5
much better games lately, shoot up to 62% If you mean your win rate is 62%, i don't see how that correlates to the MM being better. Just because you win more could easily mean that the MM is worse because your opponents are too weak. Mainly because as an approaching gold novice they stopped matching me against gold mkII but that has changed and run into a mean streak of losses and mkII |
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Post by moses on Nov 24, 2017 5:06:37 GMT -5
Thought may be good to share that with mm interesteds The fact that they are apparently trying to fix it all the time and what we have today is the best they’ve got after all that time really kills any last hope of them doing anything meaningful to improve it.. |
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Post by moses on Nov 24, 2017 6:03:17 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League and I've noticed over the last 1-2 days that the MM seems WAY more balanced than before. I have not encountered anything lower than Expert in the last 48 hours. Trying to be hopeful for everyone, but I'd like to hear more from others, especially from Diamond folk about how the MM is currently treating them. No - it still definitely sucks: 2x solo champion and a squad of 4x diamond vs squad of 3x champion, 2x solo champion and 1x solo expert (in last place on red) It actually feels like I am seeing more games like this, but I would put that down a short burst of bad luck plus psychology. My guess is the feeling of improvement is also just a psychological one. ALSO - interesting how low our standards of what constitutes “better” are - no one lower than expert means still a huge range of players and there is definitely a sizeable chunk of expert players that are complete liabilities to have on blue. If they could narrow it down to masters + champ or champ only then we would be getting somewhere  |
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Post by Poopface on Nov 24, 2017 9:55:26 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League and I've noticed over the last 1-2 days that the MM seems WAY more balanced than before. I have not encountered anything lower than Expert in the last 48 hours. Trying to be hopeful for everyone, but I'd like to hear more from others, especially from Diamond folk about how the MM is currently treating them. Speaking as an Expert-level player, I'd be thrilled if I would stop getting matched up against Champions. My level 8/9 mechs with level 10/11 guns are a little outgunned vs the full hangers of MK2s I keep seeing. |
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Post by Lainz on Nov 24, 2017 10:04:21 GMT -5
Expert 3 since a week...
First days I encountered players also from Master and occasionally Champ. Recently the average span is Diamond 2 to Expert 1.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 24, 2017 10:08:12 GMT -5
Wish they would sort out the MM on facebook gameroom as it is even worse than the other two servers. That's for sure! Still porked on Facebook.  |
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Post by Domino on Nov 24, 2017 15:26:22 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League and I've noticed over the last 1-2 days that the MM seems WAY more balanced than before. I have not encountered anything lower than Expert in the last 48 hours. Trying to be hopeful for everyone, but I'd like to hear more from others, especially from Diamond folk about how the MM is currently treating them. How long on avg does it take to get into a match now? They mixed the player pool due to meeting quick MM timeframes. I'm seeing up to 1 min and 40 seconds to match in Expert 2. Matches have been more balanced, that's is evident. Still have some bad ones and usually they are due to squading (both Reds and Blues) |
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