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Post by nathan8650 on Jan 23, 2017 6:11:22 GMT -5
All,
I'm fairly new player, not really good, not bad. Average Robots....and as some will say a "Camper". I prefer to do the long shots in support of other players. I'm generally in top 3 of each match for team, BUT haven't been winning much. Teamwork has been lacking. All that being said......
Recently some players have been doing some strange things. Example, one player for a whole match (from my team) just sat there circling me, literally "feet" away, and circles and circled. Didn't fire, would move with my moves and going around me......battle raging all around and he just kept doing it. now I'll be the first to say I absolutely hate it when your own players shoot at you at the start of a match, but the guy circling was a little unnerving and I had to drop out because it was so distracting.......
Sorry to speak plain, but have to say I don't understand 3/4 of the "Jargon" / slang that people are posting here. Is there a trend of people doing like I describe, because I find it pretty screwed up........ |
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Post by Pbartender on Jan 23, 2017 9:15:18 GMT -5
For what it's worth, your teammates are doing this... Example, one player for a whole match (from my team) just sat there circling me, literally "feet" away, and circles and circled. Didn't fire, would move with my moves and going around me......battle raging all around and he just kept doing it. now I'll be the first to say I absolutely hate it when your own players shoot at you at the start of a match, but the guy circling was a little unnerving and I had to drop out because it was so distracting....... ...because you are doing this... ....and as some will say a "Camper". I prefer to do the long shots in support of other players. ...which why this is happening... I'm generally in top 3 of each match for team, BUT haven't been winning much. ...which your teammates aren't happy with either. Teamwork has been lacking. You've got that right. |
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 23, 2017 9:18:55 GMT -5
All,
I'm fairly new player, not really good, not bad. Average Robots....and as some will say a "Camper". I prefer to do the long shots in support of other players. I'm generally in top 3 of each match for team, BUT haven't been winning much. Teamwork has been lacking. All that being said......
Recently some players have been doing some strange things. Example, one player for a whole match (from my team) just sat there circling me, literally "feet" away, and circles and circled. Didn't fire, would move with my moves and going around me......battle raging all around and he just kept doing it. now I'll be the first to say I absolutely hate it when your own players shoot at you at the start of a match, but the guy circling was a little unnerving and I had to drop out because it was so distracting.......
Sorry to speak plain, but have to say I don't understand 3/4 of the "Jargon" / slang that people are posting here. Is there a trend of people doing like I describe, because I find it pretty screwed up........ My friend I can almost guarantee the team with the most snipers loses. If you want to dominate you need to master the knife fighting bots and get in there and get dirty.. Then you are the game setter and you dictate wins and losses more so then hoping your teammates are actually good. The player circling you was probably trying to tell you give up the sniper camping and get in there ... My teammates like to push snipers off a cliff when they get frustrated because they've been teamed with too many campers |
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jan 23, 2017 9:29:13 GMT -5
Sniping is generally hated so much that clans won't let them in and will kick them out if caught. As stated above, learn how to knife fight ( close combat ) , and beacon cap. You will get more wins and therefore, more gold.....not to mention, it's a LOT more fun than standing 1000M away and lobbing an occasional potato.
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Post by DRTYDAV on Jan 23, 2017 10:02:19 GMT -5
He was circling you to show you he was doing just as much as you to win the battle. Your team mates shoot at you because you arent making a difference. You are in top 3 because you are low level. Drop the sniper bots, only 1 bot max range 600m should be in your hangar. 1 mid range support, the rest should be fast medium bots that can do damage and capture beacons, or heavy tanks that can defend beacons.
This game is not about damage, kills, etc. It is a map control game. Area control and denial is where you win. As a sniper you have VERY little ability to keep any bot out of any area, especially if you stay in spawn. Get out, move around, use cover and make the reds react to you.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 23, 2017 10:05:42 GMT -5
He was circling you to show you he was doing just as much as you to win the battle. Your team mates shoot at you because you arent making a difference. You are in top 3 because you are low level. Drop the sniper bots, only 1 bot max range 600m should be in your hangar. 1 mid range support, the rest should be fast medium bots that can do damage and capture beacons, or heavy tanks that can defend beacons. This game is not about damage, kills, etc. It is a map control game. Area control and denial is where you win. As a sniper you have VERY little ability to keep any bot out of any area, especially if you stay in spawn. Get out, move around, use cover and make the reds react to you. sniping is usually frowned upon due to the emphasis on knife fighting. Probably telling you WHYYYY!!! |
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 23, 2017 12:29:53 GMT -5
All,
a "Camper". I prefer to do the long shots in support of other players. I'm generally in top 3 of each match for team, BUT haven't been winning much. Teamwork has been lacking. All that being said......
Sorry to speak plain, but have to say I don't understand 3/4 of the "Jargon" / slang that people are posting here. Is there a trend of people doing like I describe, because I find it pretty screwed up........ The only thing to add is a lazy sniper is worthless....an active and mobile sniper can do a world of good on a team until it is time to eject and get into another bot like knife fighter, beacon capper or mid range support. As your team pushes forward, you should move to support them....move to where you can actually fire instead of waiting for red to come into a firing lane. If all you have is long range weps, then you are a Liability....the best thing for you to do is to change your game name to something like that (I AM A LIABILITY or BEWARE I'M A SNIPER) to let everyone know that all you want to do is provide long range support (aka, stand around and push the red button while you lose). The truth to your predicament is all in your statements that I snipped above....sniping does not equal winning. You should look in the mirror, point, and say "You are not being a good teammate" instead of pointing the finger elsewhere. Per your request, I used simple clear terms and not jargon....hopefully your feelings are not hurt. Now go back to your hanger and relook at your lineup....balanced hangers (2-4 knife fighters, maybe 1 beacon cappers, 1 mid range or long range support bot) are important. |
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Post by zeus on Jan 23, 2017 12:50:02 GMT -5
I think this poster describes the situation with newbies and noobs perfectly. They don't understand the game and think they are really contributing to the team with their far range bots. Then they get confused when frustrated team mates troll them for being useless to the team.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 23, 2017 14:01:41 GMT -5
the only real strange things is seeing a sniper in close range. its like bruh...
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Post by bearre on Jan 27, 2017 21:54:03 GMT -5
A sniper can be supportive and make a contribution (look how popular trident furys are),but unfortunately too many people try to go long range. A squad does not need 3 Natasha all hanging back. Hence the general dislike.
I personally have 1 long range trident unit a couple of close range "knife fightets" and a couple of RDB Griffins. Try to gauge what the squad will need and pick for the situation.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 29, 2017 13:04:26 GMT -5
A sniper can be supportive and make a contribution (look how popular trident furys are),but unfortunately too many people try to go long range. A squad does not need 3 Natasha all hanging back. Hence the general dislike. I personally have 1 long range trident unit a couple of close range "knife fightets" and a couple of RDB Griffins. Try to gauge what the squad will need and pick for the situation. Trident furys are midrange, -600 meters, while sniping is anything higher then 600 meters |
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 31, 2017 17:33:47 GMT -5
They're circling you because campers are like
Hey I'm gonna sit here and camp all day sniping to piss off players.
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Post by BigBear on Jan 31, 2017 20:35:09 GMT -5
If i spawn in a game with more than one Natasha i quiet happily stand next to them blasting away with my Magnums laughing like a maniac hoping beyond all hope something walks/crawls within my 300 meter range so i can then become useful to my other team mates who i know are looking at me with admiring glances safe in the knowledge i am helping win the battle.
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Post by moody on Jan 31, 2017 22:13:41 GMT -5
If i spawn in a game with more than one Natasha i quiet happily stand next to them blasting away with my Magnums laughing like a maniac hoping beyond all hope something walks/crawls within my 300 meter range so i can then become useful to my other team mates who i know are looking at me with admiring glances safe in the knowledge i am helping win the battle. I spawned the other day in a Trident (and magnum....) Natasha. Shenzhen. Along with two Trident / CRV Natashas, A trident Carnage, A RDB Griffin and a single stalker. A few of us promptly got ourselves killed and we went on to win the game with well supported knife fighters. |
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Post by 3castle on Jan 31, 2017 22:24:25 GMT -5
facing a lvl1 cossack with lvl 1 punisher after new mm  |
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Post by whatttupG on Feb 1, 2017 2:44:51 GMT -5
What comes to mind is the term "circle jerk"... I'd say it was repeated because you didn't seem to get it... he did the circles, you were probably supposed to infer the rest.
Camping typically pisses off your team and usually isn't too popular or typical of a winning formula.
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Post by Grimlocke on Feb 1, 2017 3:20:51 GMT -5
@op,
There are some players who intentionally do silly things, yes. However, quite a lot of weirdos in noob/lower levels are actually not human players, but bots.
For example, all of us probably encountered a friendly bot endlessly shooting at you for no reason. What it is, is actually a War Robots bot program using some sort of screen overlay system that locks on/centers on a nearby movable object and keeps following/shooting at until that object disappears (get destroyed by an enemy bot), after which that auto-bot (kinky) will refocus on a closest available movable object (most of the time enemy bot) and continue shooting at it like it did at you (and in turn rack up damage in the final scorechart, sometimes even a beacon cap if following a capper, making it appear like a real player).
This is nothing new really, used in plenty other games. However, all of those required PC usage so I'm guessing, they evolved a bit to encompass mobile platforms as well.
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Post by K A Z on Feb 1, 2017 4:01:34 GMT -5
@op, There are some players who intentionally do silly things, yes. However, quite a lot of weirdos in noob/lower levels are actually not human players, but bots. For example, all of us probably encountered a friendly bot endlessly shooting at you for no reason. What it is, is actually a War Robots bot program using some sort of screen overlay system that locks on/centers on a nearby movable object and keeps following/shooting at until that object disappears (get destroyed by an enemy bot), after which that auto-bot (kinky) will refocus on a closest available movable object (most of the time enemy bot) and continue shooting at it like it did at you (and in turn rack up damage in the final scorechart, sometimes even a beacon cap if following a capper, making it appear like a real player). This is nothing new really, used in plenty other games. However, all of those required PC usage so I'm guessing, they evolved a bit to encompass mobile platforms as well. ...or actual people with brain complexity of a bot  Happens in real life too... |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Feb 1, 2017 7:39:14 GMT -5
facing a lvl1 cossack with lvl 1 punisher after new mm don't you mean punisher mk2? |
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Post by nathan8650 on Feb 2, 2017 1:45:40 GMT -5
Wow, I understand if you feel a certain way, but didn't realize there would be so much critical comments. As for camping and sniping, first off....I'm not the random guy that just sits and randomly throws around shots. I agree that is not good, BUT on the same token I have the pet peeve of teammates that shoot at each other when we spawn....it's just stupid. If too excessive I'll admit, I drop out right then and there, because you are more worried about harassing your teammates, distracting so "YOU" get a beacon (not team), etc. So I will leave you a man down, no skin off my back.
For camping.....no perhaps a correction. Almost always I'm firing in support of my teammates to wear down the enemy that they are fighting, so to say that a sniper or other is not supporting or contributing is just wrong. OR to say they can't assist with a win... I always thought the same about the guys that sit in the back with long range missles / rockets until my team lost about 3 in a row to people who just bombed us into the stone age because we couldn't even see who we were shooting at even at close range.....
Think what you want, but generally I see good teams succeed when they do have a mix with up close and a long range shooter. NOW WILL ADMIT once I see there is one and even sometimes 3-4 Natasha's pop in with me, I auto think....yeah we already lost.......
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 2, 2017 2:15:58 GMT -5
Wow, I understand if you feel a certain way, but didn't realize there would be so much critical comments. As for camping and sniping, first off....I'm not the random guy that just sits and randomly throws around shots. I agree that is not good, BUT on the same token I have the pet peeve of teammates that shoot at each other when we spawn....it's just stupid. If too excessive I'll admit, I drop out right then and there, because you are more worried about harassing your teammates, distracting so "YOU" get a beacon (not team), etc. So I will leave you a man down, no skin off my back. For camping.....no perhaps a correction. Almost always I'm firing in support of my teammates to wear down the enemy that they are fighting, so to say that a sniper or other is not supporting or contributing is just wrong. OR to say they can't assist with a win... I always thought the same about the guys that sit in the back with long range missles / rockets until my team lost about 3 in a row to people who just bombed us into the stone age because we couldn't even see who we were shooting at even at close range..... Think what you want, but generally I see good teams succeed when they do have a mix with up close and a long range shooter. NOW WILL ADMIT once I see there is one and even sometimes 3-4 Natasha's pop in with me, I auto think....yeah we already lost....... you see, camping just isnt needed. the two most important aspects of the game are capturing beacons, and dealing damage. sniping is mediocre at both, and hence idiotic. |
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Post by BLYTHE on Feb 2, 2017 2:18:15 GMT -5
Hi Nathan. You misunderstand. I think they are shooting at you because you are camping. If you haven't figured out why camping doesn't win games then I'm afraid no amount of criticism here will convince you otherwise. Most campers think they are contributing--and to be fair, they are. But not by much. If you really want to support your teammates and wear the enemy down, you should go down there are fight with them. Besides, shielded bots have pretty much made snipers (kwk, trebs) obsolete.
I don't squad and am not part of a clan, so I have to be prepared for whatever the game throws at me. I normally start with a TT Fury (ditch after 3 mins), follow with an RDB, then with 3 knife fighting bots. I used to have only one midranger but the ever increasing number of aphid chuckers have forced me to pull back a bit (though the recent nerf has made them bearable).
Yes, teams succeed when they do have a mix, BUT a mix like I outlined above. It doesn't help if you'll be in a camper all throughout the game.
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Post by nathan8650 on Feb 2, 2017 2:19:05 GMT -5
A sniper can be supportive and make a contribution (look how popular trident furys are),but unfortunately too many people try to go long range. A squad does not need 3 Natasha all hanging back. Hence the general dislike. I personally have 1 long range trident unit a couple of close range "knife fightets" and a couple of RDB Griffins. Try to gauge what the squad will need and pick for the situation. Yes, I'm a firm believer in this. While people can say it's a Noob not understanding, perhaps I didn't express the full situation because I didn't want to write a novel........the guy didn't stop to even see what I was doing or was happening, if what you say is true, it was started within seconds of spawning......long range map, etc. Doesn't fit the "he was mad' scenario that so many blasted me for of "just not understanding you have to only fight in the ways we say"
I have a couple "knife fighters" and that's not what I'm the best at. I think people are generally lumping all "campers" together.....there is the general camper as described who throws around shots without reason. BUT on the other hand I've also been the only one standing near a beacon with three enemies closing in, and my 4 teammates are all worried about 1 enemy dancing around somewhere nowhere near a beacon......kills and keeping beacons....All they were worried about was getting a kill and not winning the match.
Likewise, yes I have a Leo, Griffin, Galahad, etc. and choose depending on map, but often will start off no matter what with heavy bot from a distance to . Example though of the situation that I first started as, Long range map, distance. My first action is to knock down level of as many enemies as possible BEFORE they can get to the rest of my team so my teammates have even a slight advantage. As they are coming into contact, I continue to hit so to increase TEAMMATES chance of success.......Then if that's not working and we get overrun, I will die either on purpose at hopefully a good time or from enemy shots trying to protect MY TEAMMATES, and spawn in with more appropriate Bot for the scenario right at that moment. To have 4 Natasha's all pop in though, regardless of weapons, can be very disappointing.....Another peeve of mine is the guys that sit there with bots that should be out in the knifefight, and they sit back near me in my Fury in a golem trying to hit things at range (Those are the Noobs or perhaps a kid that doesn't know), so a few times just because I wade into the knife fight with my Fury, just to get a few licks in before I die.......
So guys please before you take the narrow minded approach that all "CAMPERS" are the same, observe their actions if they go to a beacon in the back and just sit there....I agree "Screw them".....but if they are taking actions to try to assist the team because they are a good "sniper" or long range shot, then they may save your but more than once by helping to wear down the guy you are going against. To arbitrarily take the actions (dancing around in such a way) that was done though is not accurate to the situation and references a very personal opinion that only their way of fighting is successful. I've had "gepards" before which I truly hate, but generally don't like the controls....too fast for me, sorry I'm simplistic with terrible hand eye coordination, so my best way of contributing is in the way I do with long range, and the occasional knife fight with a few other bots, depending on scenario.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 2, 2017 2:27:08 GMT -5
A sniper can be supportive and make a contribution (look how popular trident furys are),but unfortunately too many people try to go long range. A squad does not need 3 Natasha all hanging back. Hence the general dislike. I personally have 1 long range trident unit a couple of close range "knife fightets" and a couple of RDB Griffins. Try to gauge what the squad will need and pick for the situation. Yes, I'm a firm believer in this. While people can say it's a Noob not understanding, perhaps I didn't express the full situation because I didn't want to write a novel........the guy didn't stop to even see what I was doing or was happening, if what you say is true, it was started within seconds of spawning......long range map, etc. Doesn't fit the "he was mad' scenario that so many blasted me for of "just not understanding you have to only fight in the ways we say"
I have a couple "knife fighters" and that's not what I'm the best at. I think people are generally lumping all "campers" together.....there is the general camper as described who throws around shots without reason. BUT on the other hand I've also been the only one standing near a beacon with three enemies closing in, and my 4 teammates are all worried about 1 enemy dancing around somewhere nowhere near a beacon......kills and keeping beacons....All they were worried about was getting a kill and not winning the match.
Likewise, yes I have a Leo, Griffin, Galahad, etc. and choose depending on map, but often will start off no matter what with heavy bot from a distance to . Example though of the situation that I first started as, Long range map, distance. My first action is to knock down level of as many enemies as possible BEFORE they can get to the rest of my team so my teammates have even a slight advantage. As they are coming into contact, I continue to hit so to increase TEAMMATES chance of success.......Then if that's not working and we get overrun, I will die either on purpose at hopefully a good time or from enemy shots trying to protect MY TEAMMATES, and spawn in with more appropriate Bot for the scenario right at that moment. To have 4 Natasha's all pop in though, regardless of weapons, can be very disappointing.....Another peeve of mine is the guys that sit there with bots that should be out in the knifefight, and they sit back near me in my Fury in a golem trying to hit things at range (Those are the Noobs or perhaps a kid that doesn't know), so a few times just because I wade into the knife fight with my Fury, just to get a few licks in before I die.......
So guys please before you take the narrow minded approach that all "CAMPERS" are the same, observe their actions if they go to a beacon in the back and just sit there....I agree "Screw them".....but if they are taking actions to try to assist the team because they are a good "sniper" or long range shot, then they may save your but more than once by helping to wear down the guy you are going against. To arbitrarily take the actions (dancing around in such a way) that was done though is not accurate to the situation and references a very personal opinion that only their way of fighting is successful. I've had "gepards" before which I truly hate, but generally don't like the controls....too fast for me, sorry I'm simplistic with terrible hand eye coordination, so my best way of contributing is in the way I do with long range, and the occasional knife fight with a few other bots, depending on scenario.
intentions aside, sniping is obselete. knocking of 20 k health every 30 seconds might seem useful, but in that time any decent bot can get into the battlefield and deal 5 times the amount of damage, rendering camping completely useless. sniping is best considered annoying, and no where near a strategical advantage or threat. stick to knifers, and equip the fury with tridents |
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Post by nathan8650 on Feb 2, 2017 2:36:02 GMT -5
Hi Nathan. You misunderstand. I think they are shooting at you because you are camping. If you haven't figured out why camping doesn't win games then I'm afraid no amount of criticism here will convince you otherwise. Most campers think they are contributing--and to be fair, they are. But not by much. If you really want to support your teammates and wear the enemy down, you should go down there are fight with them. Besides, shielded bots have pretty much made snipers (kwk, trebs) obsolete. I don't squad and am not part of a clan, so I have to be prepared for whatever the game throws at me. I normally start with a TT Fury (ditch after 3 mins), follow with an RDB, then with 3 knife fighting bots. I used to have only one midranger but the ever increasing number of aphid chuckers have forced me to pull back a bit (though the recent nerf has made them bearable). Yes, teams succeed when they do have a mix, BUT a mix like I outlined above. It doesn't help if you'll be in a camper all throughout the game. Hey Blythe, thanks for being at least Civil, and hopefully I've explained a little more. As stated the term "camper" is a little too overused right now. Yes, depending on situation I do the same, If what I'm doing is contributing, then I will keep my Fury there and pop off some more shots, if I'm not having any luck myself and team is falling behind, then I'll pop in with something else to fit the scenario....>AGAIN, people are overusing the term "camping" and I didn't realize it. BUT the actions of the one guy and a few more that weren't as bad that was the worst, was not one of an upset person, it was of someone just causing trouble, or had a hardcore "heavy bots" are heretics belief'......either way is wrong to do if you truly want to play as a team. I myself have bad thoughts of some of the other players that "knifefight", but don't seem to coordinate with teammates to WIN, they only go their own way, don't care about the beacons often walking right by one, so the "CAMPING" criticism shouldn't be just on heavy bots lumped together. I COMPLETELY understand what everyone is saying and think they are just as incorrect making assumptions it's a "noob" thing for not thinking the same, or have misread when I said "camping" and maybe I should have said "sniping". Previous post describes what generally do and it's pretty much what you describe, hate thought that most just replied in the manner they did that "oh well if your not fighting the way I do you are wrong"......... |
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 2, 2017 2:44:47 GMT -5
"oh well if your not fighting the way I do you are wrong"......... No one has said that you have to fight like we do. all we have said is that your preferred playstyle is a liability, and that you shouldn't be suprised that people are trolling you |
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Post by nathan8650 on Feb 2, 2017 2:46:49 GMT -5
Yes, I'm a firm believer in this. While people can say it's a Noob not understanding, perhaps I didn't express the full situation because I didn't want to write a novel........the guy didn't stop to even see what I was doing or was happening, if what you say is true, it was started within seconds of spawning......long range map, etc. Doesn't fit the "he was mad' scenario that so many blasted me for of "just not understanding you have to only fight in the ways we say"
I have a couple "knife fighters" and that's not what I'm the best at. I think people are generally lumping all "campers" together.....there is the general camper as described who throws around shots without reason. BUT on the other hand I've also been the only one standing near a beacon with three enemies closing in, and my 4 teammates are all worried about 1 enemy dancing around somewhere nowhere near a beacon......kills and keeping beacons....All they were worried about was getting a kill and not winning the match.
Likewise, yes I have a Leo, Griffin, Galahad, etc. and choose depending on map, but often will start off no matter what with heavy bot from a distance to . Example though of the situation that I first started as, Long range map, distance. My first action is to knock down level of as many enemies as possible BEFORE they can get to the rest of my team so my teammates have even a slight advantage. As they are coming into contact, I continue to hit so to increase TEAMMATES chance of success.......Then if that's not working and we get overrun, I will die either on purpose at hopefully a good time or from enemy shots trying to protect MY TEAMMATES, and spawn in with more appropriate Bot for the scenario right at that moment. To have 4 Natasha's all pop in though, regardless of weapons, can be very disappointing.....Another peeve of mine is the guys that sit there with bots that should be out in the knifefight, and they sit back near me in my Fury in a golem trying to hit things at range (Those are the Noobs or perhaps a kid that doesn't know), so a few times just because I wade into the knife fight with my Fury, just to get a few licks in before I die.......
So guys please before you take the narrow minded approach that all "CAMPERS" are the same, observe their actions if they go to a beacon in the back and just sit there....I agree "Screw them".....but if they are taking actions to try to assist the team because they are a good "sniper" or long range shot, then they may save your but more than once by helping to wear down the guy you are going against. To arbitrarily take the actions (dancing around in such a way) that was done though is not accurate to the situation and references a very personal opinion that only their way of fighting is successful. I've had "gepards" before which I truly hate, but generally don't like the controls....too fast for me, sorry I'm simplistic with terrible hand eye coordination, so my best way of contributing is in the way I do with long range, and the occasional knife fight with a few other bots, depending on scenario.
intentions aside, sniping is obselete. knocking of 20 k health every 30 seconds might seem useful, but in that time any decent bot can get into the battlefield and deal 5 times the amount of damage, rendering camping completely useless. sniping is best considered annoying, and no where near a strategical advantage or threat. stick to knifers, and equip the fury with tridents Thanks for answer, regardless of any good or bad comments, I appreciate the discussions. Think it's all again, lumping terms together that we have "campers, and now "snipers".....which also isn't correct term, so guess give up at this point as pretty much do exactly as "blyth" commented. Sorry and you should have corrected the terminology based on my last that I'm not "sniping", I'm not camping, so whatever it's called, about 3 other people describe they do the same. As for 5 times the damage, no I don't have the talent / ability and can't afford the weapons, nor have the time to play to get the "points", etc. to earn, so no I couldn't do the same. I contribute best I can even in a knife fight but as said will do similar to what blyth (sorry to reference so much, just the most helpful so far) and knock down enemy for a while, and then, drop in with something else at hopefully best time. As example I and one other person cornered 4 enemy in one area while everyone else ran around getting beacons...they never moved from area, simply because they were afraid of getting knocked down long range and couldn't get out from behind obstacles. Does it happen every time, of course not and we all adapt accordingly. The worst about this situation is people jumping to conclusions, being rude and thinking "my way is the only way". Again lumping everyone into the same as "campers" isn't right and the worst of the ones I dealt with when I posted this was probably going to die quickly in a knife fight so my heavy reducing enemy strength by 1/3 did more than he could have all match..... |
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 2, 2017 2:56:45 GMT -5
intentions aside, sniping is obselete. knocking of 20 k health every 30 seconds might seem useful, but in that time any decent bot can get into the battlefield and deal 5 times the amount of damage, rendering camping completely useless. sniping is best considered annoying, and no where near a strategical advantage or threat. stick to knifers, and equip the fury with tridents Thanks for answer, regardless of any good or bad comments, I appreciate the discussions. Think it's all again, lumping terms together that we have "campers, and now "snipers".....which also isn't correct term, so guess give up at this point as pretty much do exactly as "blyth" commented. Sorry and you should have corrected the terminology based on my last that I'm not "sniping", I'm not camping, so whatever it's called, about 3 other people describe they do the same. As for 5 times the damage, no I don't have the talent / ability and can't afford the weapons, nor have the time to play to get the "points", etc. to earn, so no I couldn't do the same. I contribute best I can even in a knife fight but as said will do similar to what blyth (sorry to reference so much, just the most helpful so far) and knock down enemy for a while, and then, drop in with something else at hopefully best time. As example I and one other person cornered 4 enemy in one area while everyone else ran around getting beacons...they never moved from area, simply because they were afraid of getting knocked down long range and couldn't get out from behind obstacles. Does it happen every time, of course not and we all adapt accordingly. The worst about this situation is people jumping to conclusions, being rude and thinking "my way is the only way". Again lumping everyone into the same as "campers" isn't right and the worst of the ones I dealt with when I posted this was probably going to die quickly in a knife fight so my heavy reducing enemy strength by 1/3 did more than he could have all match..... camping and sniping are pretty much the same, but sniping is a bit more defined. camping is staying in one spot for most of or the entire match/bot life. sniping is staying at 1000 metres+ for the majority or all of the match/bots life. both dont really help anyone very much, unless its a midranger. and if you can afford a gala AND a fury, id say not being able to afford knifers isnt a excuse. and it doesnt take much talent to be good at close range fights, just have to stop using the fury for a bit (or switch it to a TT) and get used to the feel. also, try to use your mid-ranger/sniper bot second or third, rather than first |
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Post by BLYTHE on Feb 2, 2017 2:58:39 GMT -5
Hi Nathan. "Camper" is a general term referring to bots that are seen merely "camping" by home spawn, inflicting little damage from afar, and not capping beacons (which as you know wins games). Snipers are often bots that use Kwks, trebuchets, Kangdes. Furies and Carnages with tridents are not considered snipers but midrangers (<600m).
In this game, damage does not equal a win. I could possibly rack up close to 500K on a TT Fury if I played it all throughout but that would mean a potential loss for my team. Any more than a few minutes in a non-close combat, non-beacon capping bot makes you a liability.
But hey, if you enjoy sniping, go for it!
Want to hear something strange? Lately I've been seeing a lot of naked Gepards trolling people. I guess they're deliberately trying to tank their win rates.
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Post by nathan8650 on Feb 2, 2017 3:47:09 GMT -5
Hi Nathan. "Camper" is a general term referring to bots that are seen merely "camping" by home spawn, inflicting little damage from afar, and not capping beacons (which as you know wins games). Snipers are often bots that use Kwks, trebuchets, Kangdes. Furies and Carnages with tridents are not considered snipers but midrangers (<600m). In this game, damage does not equal a win. I could possibly rack up close to 500K on a TT Fury if I played it all throughout but that would mean a potential loss for my team. Any more than a few minutes in a non-close combat, non-beacon capping bot makes you a liability. But hey, if you enjoy sniping, go for it! Want to hear something strange? Lately I've been seeing a lot of naked Gepards trolling people. I guess they're deliberately trying to tank their win rates. Guys again, thanks for the info, but I know all this already. I may be Noob as only playing a few months, but I've been playing same general type games for 30 yrs. And again, yes I used wrong term to start it off, but as I said, it's not I'm camping of sniping the whole match, it's when appropriate. If it's not working, or we are being overrun, or various other than yeah i'll come back as something else. Of course, nobody said damage equals wins, but in some cases it assists when working as a team to hammer away to assist a teammate, or knock the other guys down before they get into range of teammate. BUT too many seem to take a "heavy bot' long distance is not good. On the flip side I haven't played long enough or money to get more powerful weapons, yet I'm right at that stage where everyone seems to have stronger everything.....so a knife fight is just a matter of how long the other guy takes to kill me.
So yeah understand it all, understand it was wrong term, but there is also a wrong way of thinking to lump them all together and each thing has it's benefits (unless you wind up with 6 people all doing same, lol) depending on map, team makeup, enemy makeup, etc., and that guy that did it was either intentionally losing, or hardcore I don't like heavy bots......
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