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Post by noobcake on Nov 21, 2017 3:22:10 GMT -5
I ran into a level 12 mk2 Raijin for the first time today. I was in a level 10/11 Orkan Doc and I was sure I could take the darn thing down. I unloaded my orkans, switched, unloaded my second set as I back pedaled around a corner. Much to my surprise, the thing still had quite a bit of hp and I was now cornered. I felt my cheeks burn with shame as it slowly lumbered around the corner to finish me off.
Was it it a good setup? No. It was still a slow, teammate blocking, moneybag. However, that 50k hp did a lot more than I would have expected. Not knowing whether the enemy is mk2 really changes the math on calculated risks. In this case, it did not pay off.
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Post by snk on Nov 21, 2017 3:46:11 GMT -5
I ran into a level 12 mk2 Raijin for the first time today. I was in a level 10/11 Orkan Doc and I was sure I could take the darn thing down. I unloaded my orkans, switched, unloaded my second set as I back pedaled around a corner. Much to my surprise, the thing still had quite a bit of hp and I was now cornered. I felt my cheeks burn with shame as it slowly lumbered around the corner to finish me off. Was it it a good setup? No. It was still a slow, teammate blocking, moneybag. However, that 50k hp did a lot more than I would have expected. Not knowing whether the enemy is mk2 really changes the math on calculated risks. In this case, it did not pay off. 4 Level 11 Orkan can’t take down a MKII Raijin? Does it has Ancile? Did you miss a bit of Orkan? |
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Post by noobcake on Nov 21, 2017 3:54:25 GMT -5
I ran into a level 12 mk2 Raijin for the first time today. I was in a level 10/11 Orkan Doc and I was sure I could take the darn thing down. I unloaded my orkans, switched, unloaded my second set as I back pedaled around a corner. Much to my surprise, the thing still had quite a bit of hp and I was now cornered. I felt my cheeks burn with shame as it slowly lumbered around the corner to finish me off. Was it it a good setup? No. It was still a slow, teammate blocking, moneybag. However, that 50k hp did a lot more than I would have expected. Not knowing whether the enemy is mk2 really changes the math on calculated risks. In this case, it did not pay off. 4 Level 11 Orkan can’t take down a MKII Raijin? Does it has Ancile? Did you miss a bit of Orkan? I hit almost all shots. A full load does 55k x 4 = 220 hp. The raijin wasn’t at full health so I thought I could take him down. A level 12 raijin will have 250k hp. An mk2 would have 300k! I was surprised as well. |
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Post by TravLar on Nov 21, 2017 4:04:40 GMT -5
I ran into a level 12 mk2 Raijin for the first time today. I was in a level 10/11 Orkan Doc and I was sure I could take the darn thing down. I unloaded my orkans, switched, unloaded my second set as I back pedaled around a corner. Much to my surprise, the thing still had quite a bit of hp and I was now cornered. I felt my cheeks burn with shame as it slowly lumbered around the corner to finish me off. Was it it a good setup? No. It was still a slow, teammate blocking, moneybag. However, that 50k hp did a lot more than I would have expected. Not knowing whether the enemy is mk2 really changes the math on calculated risks. In this case, it did not pay off. 4 Level 11 Orkan can’t take down a MKII Raijin? Does it has Ancile? Did you miss a bit of Orkan? Good question. Checked it out on the wiki: Rajin 250k HP + 20% for Mk2 = 300,000HP Orkans 1 cycle damage is 60,480 x 4 = 241,920 damage so the Rajin will still have 58k HP even if every rocket hits. In fact, even a Mk1 Rajin should survive, albeit, only just.
Of course, the Doc can haul out the 1st set of Orcans again and hit him some more. But then the Rajin is gonna be hitting back during all of this with +30% damage... so who know which way its gonna go. Guess the OP told us.
Edit: Beat me to it noobcake , I see you figures are slightly different though.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 21, 2017 6:07:48 GMT -5
I ran into a level 12 mk2 Raijin for the first time today. I was in a level 10/11 Orkan Doc and I was sure I could take the darn thing down. I unloaded my orkans, switched, unloaded my second set as I back pedaled around a corner. Much to my surprise, the thing still had quite a bit of hp and I was now cornered. I felt my cheeks burn with shame as it slowly lumbered around the corner to finish me off. Was it it a good setup? No. It was still a slow, teammate blocking, moneybag. However, that 50k hp did a lot more than I would have expected. Not knowing whether the enemy is mk2 really changes the math on calculated risks. In this case, it did not pay off. Funny AF. Thx for sharing man  |
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 21, 2017 6:37:06 GMT -5
I dunno. A few days ago I set out on SF in a Haechi that had ~100k HP left to get from center beacon to farm beacon on the farm side. There was no danger except a high level Treb Raijin hanging way back. Doing the math in my head I knew I could take a full blast and still arrive: ~20k damage per Treb, 30% bonus for bastion mode makes 46k, 20% bonus for Mk2 makes ~60k. (I later checked, it had 1 Mk2 Treb and 1 Mk1 Treb.)
So I set out and of course got one-shot by the trebs. A teammate on comms confirmed that he also saw only the Treb blast. Now one would assume lag, but none of the other robots had a Shocktrain or Zeus, they were all on the city side and in any case all other reds were occupied pressuring our home beacon.
I also had cases where I was 100% positive that my missiles must have hit but registered no damage.
Some things do not add up in damage calculation at the moment. But of course Pixo never cared about bugs. (Although - hear hear - they finally admitted to the Gareth speed bug and apparently fixed it.)
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Post by noobcake on Nov 21, 2017 12:41:26 GMT -5
4 Level 11 Orkan can’t take down a MKII Raijin? Does it has Ancile? Did you miss a bit of Orkan? Good question. Checked it out on the wiki: Rajin 250k HP + 20% for Mk2 = 300,000HP Orkans 1 cycle damage is 60,480 x 4 = 241,920 damage so the Rajin will still have 58k HP even if every rocket hits. In fact, even a Mk1 Rajin should survive, albeit, only just.
Of course, the Doc can haul out the 1st set of Orcans again and hit him some more. But then the Rajin is gonna be hitting back during all of this with +30% damage... so who know which way its gonna go. Guess the OP told us.
Edit: Beat me to it noobcake , I see you figures are slightly different though.
I have level 11 orkans hence 55k hp instead of the 60. I would have been smashed either way though. Haha |
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Post by vin5240 on Nov 21, 2017 13:13:27 GMT -5
I ran into a level 12 mk2 Raijin for the first time today. I was in a level 10/11 Orkan Doc and I was sure I could take the darn thing down. I unloaded my orkans, switched, unloaded my second set as I back pedaled around a corner. Much to my surprise, the thing still had quite a bit of hp and I was now cornered. I felt my cheeks burn with shame as it slowly lumbered around the corner to finish me off. Was it it a good setup? No. It was still a slow, teammate blocking, moneybag. However, that 50k hp did a lot more than I would have expected. Not knowing whether the enemy is mk2 really changes the math on calculated risks. In this case, it did not pay off. I once saw a mk2 ancile raijin. All maxed just sitting on the home beacon in Canyon like "come at me bruh, you ain't taken this B from me" lol. That thing can take hits man lmao. |
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