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Post by Big Jake on Nov 20, 2017 15:52:45 GMT -5
They used to get a horse to move by dangling a carrot in front of him just out of reach. Apparently Pixonic decided that was the best way to promote the game.
First Pixonic introduces the game with a nice variety of weapons and robots.
Then trots out the gepard, rogota and fury and they quickly became a must have.
clubbing also became all the rage.
Then stalker and rhino
Then the brit bots came and they were the new must have.
Then the wild bunch, only available by gift or a new currency.
Rockets and bullets made the brit bots almost extinct.
Now there's the dash bots and weapons bought with components. 10,000 components or $300, are they nuts?
There a heavy bots that move as fast as the light bots and weapons are op, this is balance?
Did they really not think the P2P players would not tank to be able to steal the gold from the newbs so they could upgrade faster?
How many players have left because they felt there was no point?
Well, I'm not following the carrot anymore they can keep it, no more money for Pixonic. I took the $300 and bought an X-box one to have something to do when I get bored with War Robots.
I'm still playing and upgrading (without spending $) and if they don't change, when I am no longer competitive I will quit.
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Post by _psychø on Nov 20, 2017 16:45:15 GMT -5
I don't get why people spend money on a free mobile game then get angry, I mean it's a Free game in the first place, it's not worth spending money on because you'll never guess what'll happen next, the game could die, your account could get erased then the support team gives zero 「fluffernutter」s about it, it's like putting your money on the top of a building then getting mad because the wind blew your money away, it's never stable.
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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Nov 20, 2017 17:12:48 GMT -5
I don't get why people spend money on a free mobile game then get angry, I mean it's a Free game in the first place, it's not worth spending money on because you'll never guess what'll happen next, the game could die, your account could get erased then the support team gives zero ?fluffy bunny?s about it, it's like putting your money on the top of a building then getting mad because the wind blew your money away, it's never stable. Why buy a beer when out with the fellas? Why pay for a movie ticket to see a movie? Nice dinner out? Etc... You get nothing for these except momentary enjoyment. You have no more to show for them than had you left cash on top of a building as you suggested above. Fact of the matter is that you don't pay for anything in an app game to own. You do not own the content. You are merely paying for a hobby, to enjoy time as you see fit. For some, they do not have the disposable income to spend on games. Others have the disposable income and do not mind spending some on their hobby. And yet others will blow exuberatant amounts. Who are you or I to say how people should spent their hard earned money? Pix and other game developers and publishers are running businesses, the sole purpose of which is to turn a profit. And while I will not defend Pix for crossing into the P2W realm with dash bots and super weapons, or their apparent lack of concern for ruining team play with the introduction of the shocktrain, I do not understand the sense of entitlement many players have in that they think devs and publishers should create and license games, publish them, maintain servers, hire staff, and incur all the business overhead all for players to never spend a dime. I am sure you would be less than pleased if someone came to your job, demanded your services and took full advantage of them, then complained...all while never paying you a dime for services rendered. Or would you complain when you found yourself without a job, or your employer wanting you to continue working without pay, because your employer let everyone come and demand your time and services but never charged them and thus the company never turned a profit? It is not my intention to single you out. This is merely a generalized reply to all who find it unscrupulous to spend on a game or who berate those who do. Personally, I have been playing approximately one month, maybe a little longer. I have purchased a Lancelot and Fury when they popped up on the periodic sales. I did so because I enjoy the game and found myself spending quite a bit of time playing it. In other words, I invested in a hobby, without care that my investment would yield dividends or returns. Furthermore, I invested not in a huge advantage, but what I perceived to be a small boost to a newb, vice kbots and shocktrains for silly dominance. Now, I do not know if I will spend more as I am not sure I appreciate the direction Pix is going with the super OP cash bots and weapons. But that is more a discussion of 'do I want to support a poor business model' than a question of 'do I enjoy the hobby enough to spend some on it'. Sorry for the tangent. I will get off the soap box now. Just a bit erked at all the sense of entitlement in these threads. |
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Post by amidf on Nov 20, 2017 17:30:26 GMT -5
I understand your point, Refuse2GrowUp. And if everyone treated the cash they put into this game as a short term entertainment rental, there would be a lot less moaning on these forums. Some people do feel that money used on the game is an investment. They not only own their virtual bots, but any nerf to their bot or even a buff to another is devaluing that investment. It's probably more of those players that _psychø was referencing. |
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Nov 20, 2017 17:58:44 GMT -5
I understand your point, Refuse2GrowUp. And if everyone treated the cash they put into this game as a short term entertainment rental, there would be a lot less moaning on these forums. Some people do feel that money used on the game is an investment. They not only own their virtual bots, but any nerf to their bot or even a buff to another is devaluing that investment. It's probably more of those players that _psychø was referencing. This was a valid attempt, but I don't think there is any saving the naivety of _psychø comment. He was clearly calling anyone that drops a dime on a free mobile game an idiot. Personally I can see it both ways. Money spent on a game like this is an investment. I don't have four hours a day to play. I have time for 3 to 4 matches per day. I don't get nearly enough gold or silver to constantly stay competitive with that few games a day. But I also don't spend my ten to twenty minutes of free time because I enjoy grinding for nothing. So I spent. In the beginning. It was an investment so I would be able to play a super entertaining game in my little free time without it being a grind every time. I bought enough to become relevant at my level. It was affordable then. Then came leagues. The neverending force you to play stiffer and stiffer competition system. No matter how outmatched you are, you climb. I spent a little more to get to 9/9 so I could compete in champion where it forced me up to. Now come overpowered crap that costs outrageous amounts of money. I'm not going to spend that much, and spending any menial amount now gets you literally nothing. So I have a huge sunk cost. When I initially bought myself out of the grind, I was not anticipating a subscription service with an exponentially growing cost. But that is what War Robots currently is for the competitive player with little free time. My solution is to play new accounts. It isn't fair to noobs but it is the only way to consistently get enjoyment from the game without massive costs. This game is structured to ensure that every penny spent on it becomes a sunk cost within a month or two. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 18:22:08 GMT -5
No real complaints from me. I dropped coin on this game as well. I just wish, that in Pixonics version of the horse and carrot system The horse didnt kick you in the badoodles* as you reached for the carrot.  * our term for nuts at home with my two little hombres. |
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 20, 2017 22:01:12 GMT -5
* our term for nuts at home with my two little hombres. in my house they are called crown jewels |
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Post by _psychø on Nov 21, 2017 7:48:51 GMT -5
I don't get why people spend money on a free mobile game then get angry, I mean it's a Free game in the first place, it's not worth spending money on because you'll never guess what'll happen next, the game could die, your account could get erased then the support team gives zero ?fluffy bunny?s about it, it's like putting your money on the top of a building then getting mad because the wind blew your money away, it's never stable. Why buy a beer when out with the fellas? Why pay for a movie ticket to see a movie? Nice dinner out? Etc... You get nothing for these ...... ....Sorry for the tangent. I will get off the soap box now. Just a bit erked at all the sense of entitlement in these threads. Im with you about what you said. yes, we do drop some cash on things like a can of beer or a movie ticket for moment of joy, I'm not against that at all, same about the game when you drop a buck to get some say gold or premium, all for the sake of saving you hours of time of grinding. What I find annoying Is that people complain about how the game is after they spent money, yes it's going towards P2W currently, but nobody in Pixonic is forcing you to spend $300 on a bot, I mean they do make you feel like you need it and that what's happening actually, but they aren't literally forcing you, and like you said, your money is still yours and it's up to you if you want to spend it or not, so when you dropped some cash on it, your in game item might get nerfed or changed for the favor of pleasing the majority, therefore you shouldn't get mad about it, Because you spent the money yourself, and because that's how things get when you buy something, like when you buy a beer, you drink it and it's gone! At least that's how the "disposable" cash works, when it's so disposable and you spent it on things that might not be so needed, you shouldn't get mad at all. I might not be correct because I never spent money on a mobile game yet but after all, it's what I think from my perspective and my opinion. I understand your point, Refuse2GrowUp . And if everyone treated the cash they put into this game as a short term entertainment .... It's probably more of those players that _psychø was referencing. This was a valid attempt, but I don't think there is any saving the naivety of _psychø comment. He was clearly calling anyone that drops a dime on a free mobile game an idiot. ..that every penny spent on it becomes a sunk cost within a month or two. I'm not calling anyone an idiot, that's not nice! But I'm saying that spending a huge chunk of money on a mobile game might not be worth it after all. Just my opinion though. |
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 21, 2017 10:25:51 GMT -5
They used to get a horse to move by dangling a carrot in front of him just out of reach. Apparently Pixonic decided that was the best way to promote the game. First Pixonic introduces the game with a nice variety of weapons and robots. Then trots out the gepard, rogota and fury and they quickly became a must have. clubbing also became all the rage. Then stalker and rhino Then the brit bots came and they were the new must have. Then the wild bunch, only available by gift or a new currency. Rockets and bullets made the brit bots almost extinct. Now there's the dash bots and weapons bought with components. 10,000 components or $300, are they nuts? There a heavy bots that move as fast as the light bots and weapons are op, this is balance? Did they really not think the P2P players would not tank to be able to steal the gold from the newbs so they could upgrade faster? How many players have left because they felt there was no point? Well, I'm not following the carrot anymore they can keep it, no more money for Pixonic. I took the $300 and bought an X-box one to have something to do when I get bored with War Robots. I'm still playing and upgrading (without spending $) and if they don't change, when I am no longer competitive I will quit. Shame on Pixonic for figuring out a way to get westerners to spend heaps of money to win games. How DARE they use capitalism to beat the West!!!!! How DARE they make obscene profits! How DARE they leave me out of this terrific scam!!!  A F2P game that ISN'T free to play. What a unique idea. There are only about a zillion other games that are identical to this one in it's method to squeeze cash out of players. Oh yeah....and from the looks of things in-game, Pixonic is succeeding with those carrots. There are big money bots and weapons in pretty much every game at every level. The "balance" comes when the employees check their "balance" in their savings account.  |
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Post by Poopface on Nov 21, 2017 11:43:19 GMT -5
There is only one solution.  |
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Post by vigusfatbelly on Nov 21, 2017 11:59:22 GMT -5
I figure that spending money on an app game like War Robots is like any other gaming experience. I have a PS4, and though I spent $300 on buying the console, if I want a game I still spend around $50 to $60 per game.
However, once I've purchased the game, that's it. I'm not spending any more money on it. I won't buy expansion packs, or new maps, etc. Once I've bought the game, that's it. I own it. Even if the Sony network goes 「huge tracts of land」 up, I can still play the single player version of the game I've purchased. So with an app game like War Robots, I won't spend more than what I would pay for a console game (or computer game). Most often, I'll spend less. Far less. Because if the network goes down, or the developer decides to move on to another game, etc... then I lose the ability to play that game. So I'm not going to spend a good chuck of money on something that I will not be able to continue to enjoy if the developer moves on.
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Post by blackhand7 on Nov 21, 2017 12:17:49 GMT -5
Shame on Pixonic for figuring out a way to get westerners to spend heaps of money to win games. How DARE they use capitalism to beat the West!!!!! How DARE they make obscene profits! How DARE they leave me out of this terrific scam!!! A F2P game that ISN'T free to play. What a unique idea. There are only about a zillion other games that are identical to this one in it's method to squeeze cash out of players. Oh yeah....and from the looks of things in-game, Pixonic is succeeding with those carrots. There are big money bots and weapons in pretty much every game at every level. The "balance" comes when the employees check their "balance" in their savings accounts. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 21, 2017 12:20:15 GMT -5
I understand your point, Refuse2GrowUp. And if everyone treated the cash they put into this game as a short term entertainment rental, there would be a lot less moaning on these forums. Some people do feel that money used on the game is an investment. They not only own their virtual bots, but any nerf to their bot or even a buff to another is devaluing that investment. It's probably more of those players that _psychø was referencing. It's not that there's money involved, it's how much money. I was paying maybe in the neighborhood of $50 a month for awhile on what I thought were good deals on bots and weapons I wanted and a little extra Au to upgrade them. Obviously not enough to instantly propel me into championland, but enough to keep the game more fun for the limited time I had to play it. I'd have been happy to keep paying a reasonable amount if that's what it took to remain competitive and fun. But when you're talking about hundreds of $$$ in a single pop, not even counting the time and resources needed to upgrade those acquisitions into usability, all of a sudden my $50 a month -- which is already a lot for a friggin mobile game -- was pretty much worthless. That's what (reasonable) paying players are all in a snit about. |
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A F2P game that ISN'T free to play. What a unique idea. There are only about a zillion other games that are identical to this one in it's method to squeeze cash out of players. Oh yeah....and from the looks of things in-game, Pixonic is succeeding with those carrots. There are big money bots and weapons in pretty much every game at every level. The "balance" comes when the employees check their "balance" in their savings account. 
