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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 20, 2017 15:42:50 GMT -5
So for those going for an item, mainly a Haechi but it could be anything, what's your overall strategy? I have still a good amount of WSP and gold. Although with the deals costing basically 2000-3000 WSP and 700-1300 gold all depending what I have can get down quickly. Right now I'm taking the 360 Haechi deals. Trying to only do ones that have a good second item I want as well. Just trying to see everyone's strategy. Are you guys taking every deal hellbent on getting the Haechi? Or only when good second components? My thoughts had been to have bottom limits to where I don't want my WSP or gold to fall below. I don't care about WSP really but I don't want it to be zero in case an amazing deal comes up one day. Same for gold. So thinking just take my time, no big rush but while still at comfortable levels of resources take the deals if they are there.
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 20, 2017 16:05:39 GMT -5
Something to consider.. I have two accounts one is an IOS and the other an Andriod. One primary the other low secondary. Bonus deal offers vary dramatically between the accounts. My lower level account has received offers in AU to outright buy a Kumiho, Haechi and Bulgasari. At 65% off the cost for each is 10,000 AU for Kumiho, 14,000 AU for Haechi and 15,000 AU for the Bulgasari. (You can do the math at full cost.) Of course my lower account has no where near that amount of AU and is not my main account so not taking any of those deals. (But Pix knows if I wanted to take it I would have a limited time to open my wallet and buy AU with RM.) (This may also explain why pilots are seeing dash bots in silver and bronze leagues. It's effective.) My primary account is also not sitting on 15,000 AU but it is close I.e. within possible reach and I am offered no such deals.
The point: Pixonic has the capability to offer deals by tier, OS, lvl, balance etc.., actually pretty impressive. They offer the deals they think you will take and then apply logic from there is my guess. A sort of AI algorithm again my guess. It is your own buying habits that will determine what deals, good or bad you will be offered combined with all those other aspects.
In other words: While strategies may be similar they will not likely be the same. Tactics will be individually based. But good luck whatever way to go you will eventually grind one out at what cost I have no idea.
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 20, 2017 16:16:35 GMT -5
Well just curious in terms of the deals, of which they were pretty consistent in terms of the ratio of components to WSP and gold what others are doing.
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Post by amidf on Nov 20, 2017 17:19:02 GMT -5
I am taking some of the less expensive deals for haechi components at 120 a pop and many (but not all) of the 360 component deals. I am taking wsp deals only, and to supplement wsp income I am converting 25 Au total to 250 wsp daily. I am running low on wsp now and will be more picky about the deals I take.
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Post by Nitro on Nov 20, 2017 17:25:06 GMT -5
I'm just going for shocktrain deals. They were giving constant 710 deals that I was jumping on but they've gone down to 240, still grabbing them and accelerating WSP production either way. I take nothing else. (And usually I never touch the Gold deals because I think they're just terrible.
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 20, 2017 17:40:25 GMT -5
I am taking some of the less expensive deals for haechi components at 120 a pop and many (but not all) of the 360 component deals. I am taking wsp deals only, and to supplement wsp income I am converting 25 Au total to 250 wsp daily. I am running low on wsp now and will be more picky about the deals I take. So you're buying WSP in the WSP screen at a ratio of 10:1? Which I guess is better than payind 8:1 or so for the bots with WSP. I'm trying to figure out though if it's better to spend gold on WSP or just use the gold for the deals. By what you're saying it would take 300 gold for a WSP deal (Assuming 3000 WSP deal but some are less). I can get the same deal usually for about 700-1000 gold a day. So using this method you save at the least 400 gold. The problem though if you skip the gold deals then it lengthens the time required and on top of if you have to wait for WSP to build up. Is this what you're thinking? That it's better to do WSP because of this? EDIT: Wait I just looked. There are for instance some offers for 400 gold. Inquisitor 120 and Shocktrain 240. I can convert that gold into 4000 WSP over the course of 16 days (long time) Now if I knew that same offer is only 1900 WSP let's say then it's obvious converting gold to WSP is the better way to go. But I need to see a few examples of the same deal to compare. |
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 20, 2017 18:42:51 GMT -5
grendelsbot , there was a 140 Bulgasari + 240 Shocktrain offer for WSP a couple of days ago: It was 1500 WSP (after 30% discount). Au price was 400 (after 50% discount). I did a similar calculation here: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/16978/true-component-prices-daily-dealsIt depends which item precisely you want to get. For a Haechi everything up to say a 1 Au : 5 WSP conversion let's you come out ahead. For a Bulgasari, it's closer to 1 Au : 10 WSP. Now this seems to contradict the offer I stated on the 140 Bulgasari components above, but it really doesn't. The reason is that Shocktrain relative to Bulgasari is priced differently for Au and WSP. Shocktrain components in Au are almost twice as expensive as Bulgasari ones, whereas Shocktrain components in WSP are less then half the price of Bulgasari components. It's weird, but hey, it's from Pixonic and the only purpose of it is is to confuse the consumer and trick them into spending more.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Nov 20, 2017 19:55:19 GMT -5
I'm focusing on weapon only. Short of 155 component to get my first Tempest now.
I bought all value for money (wsp/au; no RM involve here) offer especially 1.4k components
There are too many bots out there with limited bot slot. In addition, cost to own weapon relatively much cheaper than getting new gen robot.
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 21, 2017 0:51:59 GMT -5
grendelsbot , there was a 140 Bulgasari + 240 Shocktrain offer for WSP a couple of days ago: It was 1500 WSP (after 30% discount). Au price was 400 (after 50% discount). I did a similar calculation here: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/16978/true-component-prices-daily-dealsIt depends which item precisely you want to get. For a Haechi everything up to say a 1 Au : 5 WSP conversion let's you come out ahead. For a Bulgasari, it's closer to 1 Au : 10 WSP. Now this seems to contradict the offer I stated on the 140 Bulgasari components above, but it really doesn't. The reason is that Shocktrain relative to Bulgasari is priced differently for Au and WSP. Shocktrain components in Au are almost twice as expensive as Bulgasari ones, whereas Shocktrain components in WSP are less then half the price of Bulgasari components. It's weird, but hey, it's from Pixonic and the only purpose of it is is to confuse the consumer and trick them into spending more. Wait so based on your thread it costs 60k WSP to get a Haechi. If you buy 250WSP a day for 25 gold that means a Haechi only costs you 6000 gold. Am I getting this correctly? EDIT: Holy crap it only takes 78k wsp to get a Haechi. If you convert 25 gold to 250 wsp every day it means it only costs 7800 gold to get a Haechi. |
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 21, 2017 1:41:29 GMT -5
Yes, the best offer I've seen was 360 Haechi + 240 Shocktrain for 2800 WSP. If all you want is a single item, you can cut the chase and forget about all the math. You'll need to pick this offer up 28 times for a total cost of 78400 WSP. Which is pretty decent, the overhead is "only" 18400 WSP for 6740 Shocktrain components on top of it. And Haechi would only be 5 times more expensive than the most expensive WSP bots like Carnage, Rajin, Fujin (ridiculous).
Tiny problem: if the offer hits once a week, you'll need 28 weeks to get your Haechi. Just in time to witness the release of the second generation of OP bots after the Dash bots and your fancy Haechi has taken the place of a Galahad today .. if the game is still around by then. Plus, you'll need to convert slightly more WSP than 250 / day, more like 400 / day, but this doesn't seem to be the bottleneck.
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Post by 「fluffernutter」eney on Nov 21, 2017 11:19:44 GMT -5
Pix should just open up the market and allow for us to "purchase" the components directly already. Let's say that I want to build up a K-bot. Why on earth would I want my WSP/Gold to also go towards a weapon that I am not interested in building right away. Let's put those currencies to 100% use towards what you want to build. Get with it already Pix!
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 21, 2017 11:46:47 GMT -5
Pix should just open up the market and allow for us to "purchase" the components directly already. Let's say that I want to build up a K-bot. Why on earth would I want my WSP/Gold to also go towards a weapon that I am not interested in building right away. Let's put those currencies to 100% use towards what you want to build. Get with it already Pix! You have been able to do that since the Dash bots came out. You can purchase components and buy a Dash if you want too spend $200-$300 and you will have a Haechi in 5 minutes. That's the only alternative to trading in worthless currency like WSP and gold. Both of which at this point are worthless to me in the game. I just am trying to use them both wisely so I can get multiple things. |
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Post by 「fluffernutter」eney on Nov 22, 2017 15:03:58 GMT -5
Pix should just open up the market and allow for us to "purchase" the components directly already. Let's say that I want to build up a K-bot. Why on earth would I want my WSP/Gold to also go towards a weapon that I am not interested in building right away. Let's put those currencies to 100% use towards what you want to build. Get with it already Pix! You have been able to do that since the Dash bots came out. You can purchase components and buy a Dash if you want too spend $200-$300 and you will have a Haechi in 5 minutes. That's the only alternative to trading in worthless currency like WSP and gold. Both of which at this point are worthless to me in the game. I just am trying to use them both wisely so I can get multiple things. I think I meant "purchase" as using Gold/WSP to obtain the components over spending real money. Sorry for the confusion. |
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