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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 19, 2017 18:12:38 GMT -5
Man I have tried the Doc in test, which previously I haven't liked in test with Orks or Tulus. Just didn't like. However in the recent test I put 4 Scourges on him. Wow it was fun as the quickdraw seemed to match up pretty good with the Scourge. I could unload two Scourges and then quickdraw and start up the other two. Not sure how this would work with Shocktrain but this makes me want to save up components for my 4th Scourge for when one day hopefully I win a Doc.
Do you guys notice the same thing?
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Post by Poopface on Nov 19, 2017 19:03:15 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely. That’s exactly what I found, too.
If by “Scourges” you mean “Tulus” and by “Shocktrains” you mean “Orkans.”
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Post by creepshow on Nov 19, 2017 19:26:44 GMT -5
Scourges take too long for doc to unload, makes it a target because it has to stay exposed. Shocktrains unload fast but have a long recharge, makes doc a target because its defenseless after unloading. Orkans,tulus, are doc's best friends. Hydras too if you're a 「wee-wee」
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 19, 2017 21:06:26 GMT -5
Seems like double shocktrain would be pretty brutal for an assassin doc. But if you are going to pay for 4 shocktrain and a doc, why not just get 3 shocktrain and a Haechi?
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 19, 2017 21:49:23 GMT -5
Seems like double shocktrain would be pretty brutal for an assassin doc. But if you are going to pay for 4 shocktrain and a doc, why not just get 3 shocktrain and a Haechi? After update 3.4 is released, will the shocktrain still dominate the battlefield? Or will it be natural like any other weapon? |
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 19, 2017 22:18:25 GMT -5
Shocktrain and Scourge don't work for the Doc. The Shocktrain has a too short reload time and the Scourge relies on sustained DPS. Try Puns + Orks.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 19, 2017 22:22:01 GMT -5
Shocktrain and Scourge don't work for the Doc. The Shocktrain has a too short reload time and the Scourge relies on sustained DPS. Try Puns + Orks. Shocktrain is great for a doc. It has a long reload time for devastating hit. You have to run it as an assassin. Like quad treb butch. |
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Post by BastionOW on Nov 19, 2017 22:59:21 GMT -5
Shocktrain and Scourge don't work for the Doc. The Shocktrain has a too short reload time and the Scourge relies on sustained DPS. Try Puns + Orks. Shocktrain is great for a doc. It has a long reload time for devastating hit. You have to run it as an assassin. Like quad treb butch. Trebs on the Butch work in perfect harmony because of the reload time of Trebs. The Doc, however, has a cooldown time of 15 secs while the Shocktrain has an 8 sec reload. You'd be better off using it on a Fujin tbh. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 19, 2017 23:01:37 GMT -5
Shocktrain is great for a doc. It has a long reload time for devastating hit. You have to run it as an assassin. Like quad treb butch. Trebs on the Butch work in perfect harmony because of the reload time of Trebs. The Doc, however, has a cooldown time of 15 secs while the Shocktrain has an 8 sec reload. You'd be better off using it on a Fujin tbh. You're right. They timed doc for reloading guns. Too bad. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 1:58:53 GMT -5
IMHO, using quad scougres or shocktrains is sub optimal. I run a pair of scourges on my Orkan Doc. Though both weapons increase Doc's engagement distance, they cant out race tarans or orkans in damage and would be at a disadvantage when facing them. Pairing scourges /shocktrains with orkans / tarans has proven more effectective
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Post by +DethHilt+ on Nov 20, 2017 3:50:54 GMT -5
You can only fore 2 at a time. The Scourge reload is fairly quick. So after the second pair fires, the cooldown is longer than the reload.
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 20, 2017 4:04:07 GMT -5
It also depends on playstyle. the Shocktrain will allow you to fire all 4 very fast and then duck for cover.
However, if you want to keep ducking and taking cover, the scourge will give you more firepower in the long run. That being said, Docs dont last very long and I would suggest Shocktrains over Scourges.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 4:47:59 GMT -5
I'd stick shocktrains on a rog. The quickshot allows rog to minimize breaking cover and is a good pairing for getting into good firing situations. Well piloted rogs are also tough to hit and great at disappearing into cover. Pop/slap shots can be particularly effective at whittling down reds. I dont care much for the chain effect though.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 20, 2017 5:38:32 GMT -5
I could see a Shocktrain/Orkans Doc. Shocktrains as default weapon, switch to Orkans if the Doc is pressured. Guess I'd still prefer a Dash to run Shocktrains, but if you don't have one, and have acquired Shocktrains through components, then yes, this is your personal way to the dark side.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 20, 2017 5:39:36 GMT -5
However, if you want to keep ducking and taking cover, the scourge will give you more firepower in the long run. Something doesn't add up here. You probable mean Shocktrain?  |
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 20, 2017 6:45:02 GMT -5
However, if you want to keep ducking and taking cover, the scourge will give you more firepower in the long run. Something doesn't add up here. You probable mean Shocktrain? YES! you are right! Pardon my sleep-deprived brain. Kids have been sick and one was in the hospital when i going thru the forum. |
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Post by Poopface on Nov 20, 2017 8:43:04 GMT -5
Something doesn't add up here. You probable mean Shocktrain? YES! you are right! Pardon my sleep-deprived brain. Kids have been sick and one was in the hospital when i going thru the forum. Never good to have kids in the hospital or anyone for that matter. I’ve been there with two of my kids a few times. I hope all is well with your family, now. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 9:43:27 GMT -5
Hope all is well with your kid. Wishing him/her a speedy recovery.
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