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Post by burnsy13 on Oct 16, 2016 13:40:20 GMT -5
Was just screwing around and playing with advice I randomly found online. I have a lvl 3 (upgrading to 4) Destrier with lvl 6 punishers, a lvl4 Gep with lvl6 punisher x2, lvl6 Pinata, and a lvl 4 Golem with lvl 6 Pinata, lvl 6 Orkan, and lvl 6 Thunder. I don't know if I should just up and buy a heavy robot for my 4th slot, or another medium or what. Haven't explored the weapons much. Have just under 4k WSP, 2400 gold, 1.1mil silver.
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Post by LeonF on Oct 16, 2016 14:34:27 GMT -5
Just as a quick reply here's one option:
L4 Destrier with lvl 6 punishers - Box
L4 Gep with lvl6 punisher x2, lvl6 Pinata - leave as L4 and and use all piñata.
L4 Golem with lvl 6 Pinata, lvl 6 Orkan, and lvl 6 Thunder - replace the piñata with a Magnum (move it to the Gep)
My next moves would be 4th slot and Golem/Thunder/Orkan/Magnum. Also replace the Destrier with a Griffin which will be useful all the way towards top.
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Post by burnsy13 on Oct 16, 2016 15:53:01 GMT -5
What am I using on the Griffin?
Thanks
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Post by LeonF on Oct 16, 2016 16:06:39 GMT -5
Short Range: Tulumba+Piñata and try hold firing to 300m
The default setup is Molot but they are of limited use so most players change immediately.
Long range: Tulumba+CRVs. Better range matched as both are 500m.Less, but less damage than with Pinata. More of a midrange support.
Both options are very much Death Buttons ie All-or-nothing attacks rather than true knifers.
When available upgrade to either Plasma (Taran+Magnum) or swith the Tuls to Orkans.
Some also mix & match eg Orkan+Aphid (my current setup) or Orkan+Magnum. There's +/- to each.
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Post by burnsy13 on Oct 16, 2016 16:12:03 GMT -5
Great write-up, I appreciate it!
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Post by springeb on Oct 16, 2016 16:31:09 GMT -5
Don't get any heavies yet.
Keep the gep Pinatas or gep mags. Weapons on gep can go up to 9-10 ish and work with my next suggestions.
Keep the TOP golem.
Add plasma golem. Thunder Taran mag. Or Boa thunder orkan/Taran.
Get 4th slot, Fourth bot: either the other bot from previous third slot recommendation (boa or plasma golem) or get a Patton Pinatas.
If you really want a long distance support bot make the Patton CRV. I wouldn't use it until you get fifth slot.
Make all mediums 4 / weapons 6. Then level the weapons equally until bots are 4 / weapons are 9. Then consider using level 9 weapons when you purchase heavies for high silver tier.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 16:43:35 GMT -5
Don't get any heavies yet. Keep the gep Pinatas or gep mags. Weapons on gep can go up to 9-10 ish and work with my next suggestions. Keep the TOP golem. Add plasma golem. Thunder Taran mag. Or Boa thunder orkan/Taran. Get 4th slot, Fourth bot: either the other bot from previous third slot recommendation (boa or plasma golem) or get a Patton Pinatas. If you really want a long distance support bot make the Patton CRV. I wouldn't use it until you get fifth slot. Make all mediums 4 / weapons 6. Then level the weapons equally until bots are 4 / weapons are 9. Then consider using level 9 weapons when you purchase heavies for high silver tier. Very solid advice and post.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Oct 16, 2016 16:52:52 GMT -5
Definitely get 4th slot. You help yourself & team, especially late in close matches. Pros: - more assets / reserves - play more aggressive - game is on timer - more options - flexibility to match against opponents.
No question 4th slot is best choice. Most clans req 4th slot to join.
I have gone the route of buying hvy mechs early & now they are sitting not used - have lvl 6 - Leo, Nat, griffin, lvl 7 Leo and lvl 8 griffin.
I like the rule of weapons 2 lvls above your bots when upgrading. I have almost finished lvling my weapons to lvl 7. That was problem w heavys - my weapons lvl 3-4-5-6 & I was lvling bots first lvl 6-7-8. I was way outgunned in most all matches.
I have around 20 mechs rotating lights & med bots. I would suggest to stay competitve work w lights & med bots first & work up. My win rate now runs high 60's - mid 80's. It is fast & furious, run & gun which I like! & the gold flows!!
From all I have read weapons & lvls are most factors in game. I just bought orkans instead of Galahad b/c of the forum.
With MM, you put in a heavy in the hangar & can easily be facing alot of heavys. Look at MM and balanced hanger here or on the wiki,
My .02
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Post by LeonF on Oct 16, 2016 18:37:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't bother with mediums except to replace the very early light Bots and thus is done. So certainly the heavies are no longer massively slower they aren't the burden the once we're (or thinking the other way - mediums don't have significant speed and hence why I say buy a Heavy - and the only really useful Ag Heavy that keeps its place in high tiers is the Griffin.
Buy a medium, level it replace it = wasted time and resources. It also means more time facing MagGeps.
Yes it will bump the tier but that's nothing to be scared if as each upgrade will increase efficiency and you can watch averages rise.
Get everything to 6/6 double quick taking advantage of the short times, and then weapons only upgrades to 6/8. You'll be far better off than most players you'll meet at this level who don't have balanced hangers because they don't understand the rules that government the mm (as far as anyone can know!). And if at first you feel your behind the curve on damage then you know to run beacons as this is often an easy 5Au.
The Ag & wp already earned will allow the Golems to be upgraded to hit harder leaving the Griffin as midrange support/secondary knifer.
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Post by LeonF on Oct 16, 2016 18:39:23 GMT -5
The other option is the path towards a fill MagGep hanger!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 20:37:14 GMT -5
Was just screwing around and playing with advice I randomly found online. I have a lvl 3 (upgrading to 4) Destrier with lvl 6 punishers, a lvl4 Gep with lvl6 punisher x2, lvl6 Pinata, and a lvl 4 Golem with lvl 6 Pinata, lvl 6 Orkan, and lvl 6 Thunder. I don't know if I should just up and buy a heavy robot for my 4th slot, or another medium or what. Haven't explored the weapons much. Have just under 4k WSP, 2400 gold, 1.1mil silver. IMO, but YMMV I would sell the Destrier. I would get a 3rd Mag for the Gep. I think Pinata Geps are under armed. Everytime Im in a tri-Mag Gep, I laugh, and think some fool brought little rockets to a plasma fight and then he dies 95% of the time. I would get a Boa for your 4th slot, and put a Thunder and Taran on it. I would also get a Taran and Mag for the Golem. I would replace the Destrier with a Patton. I found them very versatile with their 4 hardpoints, and the setups are endless. I got to lvl30 primarily using Pattons. I am not a fan of the Vitz. Its got a heavy hardpoint, but two lights. I have never thought it had enough firepower, and I dont think the fact that its only a bit faster and has a bit better armor than a Golem makes it worth it. The Golem can carry some serious weapons.
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