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Post by Kanshou on Nov 17, 2017 15:00:57 GMT -5
Having read on multiple threads about how the Hover bot will be a game changer made me scratch my head a bit. From my experience, anything that is in the air albeit in mid-jump or even just simply stuck gets targeted instantly by every red in range as it is an easy target.
When the hover is in place, are you not in the air longer than usual compared to a Griffin's jump? We all know how vulnerable a jumping Griffin is to tracking weapons.
I haven't actually played the hover bot yet so all of my assumptions are just that. But when it hits the live servers, will it really be good?
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Post by islandmojo671 on Nov 17, 2017 15:05:08 GMT -5
NO.
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Post by Fry on Nov 17, 2017 15:12:46 GMT -5
No.It's an easy target as you mentioned.
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Post by javelinaut717 on Nov 17, 2017 15:15:02 GMT -5
As much I saw that hover bot on YouTube......is nothing more than hunting a duck. Because hover in mid air make easy a exposed you a target. No cover and no avoiding.
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Post by Deadeye on Nov 17, 2017 15:41:13 GMT -5
So, my take is that it will be vulnerable to electronic and homing weapons, but it will excel against rockets. Vertical motion cannot be led. The Griffins are vulnerable in their jumps, but not the entire jump. At the beginning of the jump and towards the end of the jump when they're vertical velocity is the highest, they are relatively safe from rockets. They are still vulnerable at their apex and when they land (the landing is especially bad because of the pause at landing). The Hover bot will be able to control it's vertical assent and decent and will be able to avoid entire salvos while raining fire on rocket platforms. It will also be able to access heights for better cover that other bots cannot reach quickly or at all.
One last thing that the Hover will likely have on it's side is this. The targeting mechanics for this game appear to give priority to targets that are more closely matched in altitude to you. Have you ever notice how hard it is to maintain a lock on Yam when you are under a bridge and your opponent is on the top? If there is another enemy in line with where he is, then it's almost impossible to target the bot above. You have to forcefully lock onto the target to shoot him. I think this flaw in the targeting is going to be exploited en mass by the Hover bots. They will be almost invisible, almost as bad as a stealth bot. When they attack as part of a group, they will have the lowest priority from a targeting standpoint and will be much safer. This is just a guess, but it is based on my observations from playing for almost 2 years now. Anyone that has tested this on the TS, I would love to get your take on this aspect of the Hover bot in particular.
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Post by ogpondskum on Nov 17, 2017 15:50:22 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the hover bot but just wait until it rains down MK2 Shocktrain damage then people will be talking about how over powered it is...
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Post by javelinaut717 on Nov 17, 2017 15:52:21 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the hover bot but just wait until it rains down MK2 Shocktrain damage then people will be talking about how over powered it is... That would be odnixous if they do that.
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Post by _psychø on Nov 17, 2017 16:08:54 GMT -5
Seems too vulnerable to LR weapons but hey we need weak stuff since everything seems too powerful!!
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Post by iamgoot on Nov 17, 2017 17:40:01 GMT -5
I tested this bot....this is where a good player will shine...the noobs will hover higher and use it to fly....however the key to this bot is hover but keep it low...i was able to cover substantial ground and obstacles in short time and it worked a treat on Shenzhen. It will take a lot of practise and skill but it's not a straight OP bot like the dash bots where any skill level can own...here you need to be a good player....aware of what bots are out, how the game is going etc
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 17, 2017 17:51:35 GMT -5
From what I have seen Pix has been selling this as a bot that can get to those defensive positions in the new maps that, I don't believe, any other bot can reach. I guess that has some relevance and fun aspects but not sure if it's going to be worth what Pix wants for it. I am hoping, emphasize HOPING, it may be a gold bot but I HIGHLY doubt that. It does have three weapon slots though where the Rogatka has only the two. A last point and I don't know where this will come down, given the vertical jump and I hear, I do not know, that it's incredibly high that alone may put it out of range of some retaliation...perhaps even it's weapons range...should be interesting if nothing else.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 17, 2017 22:35:56 GMT -5
My take from the test server is that the hoverbot may have a place at the table. It doesnt need to move forward while hovering and as such can make use of cover while elevating itself. It can also exploit the limited angle that bots seem to face looking up. Firing downwards has more free play than looking up. Its also pretty tough for a medium so it wont go down easy and carries just one light hardpoint less than a griff. Its cofiguration also lends it well to hanging from elevated surfaces. I'd say its got a handful of things going for it..in the right hands. Elevated firing positions also provide a degree of cover depending on the angle, which is a plus. The downside is that its a relatively slow bot. Even while flying.
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Post by devlonmcnabb on Nov 17, 2017 22:50:08 GMT -5
Looks like easy pray for my zues fury.
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Post by moolamu on Nov 17, 2017 22:54:20 GMT -5
Maybe the Hover costs a fortune, but is secretly mediocore. And THEN they release an actual OP new robot, and players are now low on silver, gold and wsp.
Just as planned.
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 18, 2017 0:23:42 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the hover bot but just wait until it rains down MK2 Shocktrain damage then people will be talking about how over powered it is... Last night I was playing in the city map and out of the blue my team received damage which was automatically transfered to me (the red had Haechi with 3 MK2 shocktrains.) I tried to kill it with my lancelot but to no avail. I left the match not caring about being place in LPQ. However, I was anxious for the release of the Hover bot and thought about purchasing it. After reading the feedback here, I'm having second thoughts......
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