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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 7:06:10 GMT -5
I can't progress past silver 3 league when my league rating was 1,299, suddenly I get crap teams, enemy team having more paid bots/weapons, fighting against gold league players is like trying to punch a brick wall with your bare fists. I always try my best, but it's impossible now that I see 4x aphid pattons, 2x magnum/2x taran griffins, Lancelot and they are so OP, especially the 4x aphid button which took my teammates one by one on the Moon map and no one can even get close to him. I see a lot of snipers on my team and I can see why they camp now. Also last battle I saw someone on my team have a MKII weapon 「whiskey tango foxtrot」  I feel MM is rigged so that to progress further you need to cash in more, which is happening to me right now. I would be on a winning streak and then all of a sudden I'm on a long losing streak, which takes 17-22 rating points off when my team gets steamrolled and people leave as well. I'm now left at 1,108 league rating points and it's going down because I'm seeing lancelots and kumihos more now. I checked my enemy teams hangers and they have level 9/10 bots and weapons while mine are still level 5 weapons and lvl 6-8 bots. what the hell??? I can't make any progress now and it's just looping back and forth not letting me go up further in leagues. Before posting this I was on a losing streak for every domination match I joined in either team leaves when we're losing or getting steamrolled bad. |
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Nov 16, 2017 7:12:29 GMT -5
STAY WHERE YOU ARE! IT ONLY GETS WORSE AS YOU MOVE UP!
I'm keeping my 2nd account at Lvl 6, and I'm in the Bronze/Silver area. Go much higher and you'll be overrun with dash bots. You think Lancelot is OP? PFFT! He's a puss. You'll see the occasional dash or Lance, sometimes a new driver, sometimes obvious high lvl tankers, but it's worse at the top.
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Post by AzureAura on Nov 16, 2017 7:18:27 GMT -5
Seems like he has already gone too far m8.
Whats in you hanger? We need to see to give you advice and where you should be to avoid stuff like this.
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Post by jhonsnow on Nov 16, 2017 7:24:37 GMT -5
You think Lancelot is OP? PFFT! He's a puss. Lmfao...poor lance ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 7:26:26 GMT -5
STAY WHERE YOU ARE! IT ONLY GETS WORSE AS YOU MOVE UP! I'm keeping my 2nd account at Lvl 6, and I'm in the Bronze/Silver area. Go much higher and you'll be overrun with dash bots. You think Lancelot is OP? PFFT! He's a puss. You'll see the occasional dash or Lance, sometimes a new driver, sometimes obvious high lvl tankers, but it's worse at the top. The ones I saw had ancile at level 8 and it took 3 of my teammates to bring down his ancile, after the shield goes down we have to go past his 3 built in physical shields as he was charging in with his rush ability. he spawned killed my team with Tarans :v. |
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Post by wildboar on Nov 16, 2017 7:36:45 GMT -5
If you face a Lancelot ... run away ? They are as slow as a glacier ... the rush doesn't last for very long ...Go find a battle you can win
OR
get inside his ancile bubble (if you have rockets) and shoot him in the back ... if you have plasma just shoot him in the back
Thunders take down an ancile pretty quickly
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Post by TravLar on Nov 16, 2017 7:47:41 GMT -5
I can't progress past silver 3 league when my league rating was 1,299, suddenly I get crap teams, enemy team having more paid bots/weapons, fighting against gold league players is like trying to punch a brick wall with your bare fists. I always try my best, but it's impossible now that I see 4x aphid pattons, 2x magnum/2x taran griffins, Lancelot and they are so OP, especially the 4x aphid button which took my teammates one by one on the Moon map and no one can even get close to him. I see a lot of snipers on my team and I can see why they camp now. Also last battle I saw someone on my team have a MKII weapon 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 I feel MM is rigged so that to progress further you need to cash in more, which is happening to me right now. I would be on a winning streak and then all of a sudden I'm on a long losing streak, which takes 17-22 rating points off when my team gets steamrolled and people leave as well. I'm now left at 1,108 league rating points and it's going down because I'm seeing lancelots and kumihos more now. I checked my enemy teams hangers and they have level 9/10 bots and weapons while mine are still level 5 weapons and lvl 6-8 bots. what the hell??? I can't make any progress now and it's just looping back and forth not letting me go up further in leagues. Before posting this I was on a losing streak for every domination match I joined in either team leaves when we're losing or getting steamrolled bad. Just keep at it. The which team you're in is just luck and there's just as much of chance that you will be in the team that works well, gets beacons, holds them and wins.
I remember the stage you're at well: Your skills are coming along, your level is climbing and now you're coming across the guys who've been playing longer and have had time to build stronger hangars. The thing to do at this stage is spend the resources that you're earning well. Check in here before you choose weapons and bots and you'll get some really good direction. I wasn't on the forum yet and sunk a lot of au, ag and wsp into stuff that really didn't have any long-term potential.
Also, ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ has a point, although you don't really want to stay quite where you are because you want to run some of the better / au gear and that means going up some at least, once you start getting to upper Gold league and Diamond you're gonna have to decide whether you want to be a league climber or not. "Not" would mean that start developing other bots and weapons and pursuing a fun in the game rather than just damage. Stronger hangar = More damage = Higher league and that's a never ending battle. There is no "top" and the upper tiers are extremely expensive to compete in.
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Post by _psychø on Nov 16, 2017 7:55:43 GMT -5
OP Griffins, Pattons and Lance's? Waiting for your feedback when you face a haechi with three orkans or shocktrains.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 16, 2017 8:29:11 GMT -5
Whats your hangar like? Hard to give advice only based on what you face.
lv 6 weapons will keep you at mid silver, give or take. Depending on skill.
Lv7 weapons will get you up to mid gold, give or take. Depending on skill.
Any higher up and it starts to hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 9:41:18 GMT -5
Oh right sorry I forgot to list my hanger:
Fujin lvl 8: lv5 orkan/lv5 orkan/lv5 taran
Raijin lvl 7: lv5 thunder/lv5 thunder
Natasha lv6: lv5 Zeus/Lv5 Kang dae/lv1 spiral/lv1 spiral
Fujin gets reckt with by plasma griffins and 4x aphid pattons, Raijin is exposed to rockets even in bastion mode and Natasha is mid range fighter but still exposed to zenits and noricums.
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Post by mechtout on Nov 16, 2017 11:32:31 GMT -5
I would say you are holding yourself back. You need to get your 4th and 5th slot.
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Post by wildboar on Nov 16, 2017 11:46:56 GMT -5
Lvl 1 Spirals? ... you may as well be lobbing tennis balls
That kang is painfully slow too
FWIW I don't rate either of the spider bots - just not mobile enough for my taste
Those 2 Orkans would go on a nice Griff (with 2 pinatas)
what else do you have in you inventory?
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Nov 16, 2017 12:09:33 GMT -5
Ok, based on the peek at your hangar, here are my recommendations:
1. Stop lvl up your bots. Yes, higher lvl gives a bit more speed and a few more hp, but it may push you higher than you want to go.
2. Get your weapons to the same lvl or close, probably no higher than lvl 6. This will keep you from having "strong" and "weak" bots. Balance is what you're after.
3. 4th and 5th slot. These are game changers. They'll give you more options to cover different maps and help you to see the end of battles more often. Plus, Pixonic can't nerf (make less effective) a hangar slot. They do it all the time with bots and weapons.
4. #3 means no spending gold on ANYTHING until you get those hangar slots. This is the hard part - grinding and saving your gold. It will take a while, but it's so worth it.
5. Learn to roll with the punches. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Just part of the game. It is frustrating when you're on a "bug" streak, but keep hammering.
6. Avoid Fujin and Rajin in general. They're not very mobile and they're pretty fragile, Fujin especially. Good firepower, but too susceptible to too many things. WSP are better spent on weapons. When you have a few Magnums and Tarans, Stalker is pretty handy, and though I'm not a huge fan, Rhino is put to good use by some. Carnage is viable well into Champion League, if you have such aspirations.
7. For what bots to use (since 2/3 of your hangar is on the "not recommended" list), I get good use out of Leo (mag/thunder, Pun/thunder), Boa (taran/thunder) and Golem (ork/pinata/thunder). I'm still saving for my 5th slot...1100 au to go!
These suggestions are from a 2 year player who has a Champion account with maxed bots and weapons (including a couple MK2 Orkans), who has more fun playing a 2nd account in Silver with everything at lvl 6.
For your consideration. See you on the battlefield.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 16, 2017 12:20:46 GMT -5
Oh right sorry I forgot to list my hanger: Fujin lvl 8: lv5 orkan/lv5 orkan/lv5 taran Raijin lvl 7: lv5 thunder/lv5 thunder Natasha lv6: lv5 Zeus/Lv5 Kang dae/lv1 spiral/lv1 spiral Fujin gets reckt with by plasma griffins and 4x aphid pattons, Raijin is exposed to rockets even in bastion mode and Natasha is mid range fighter but still exposed to zenits and noricums. My take on this. First and foremost i would highly recommend a fourth slot. Also dont level past 6 on weapons unless you want to overshoot the fun zone. And not much higher on bots. The spiderbots are hard to reposition, cumbersome with team mates and tend to get wrecked exactly as you describe because of shortcomings in mobility. These may be holding you back. DB (death button) Griffins would be a better carrier for your orkans. With pins or aphids when you can get them. PDB (plasma death button) Griffins if you can scrounge up another taran and a couple of mags. Nat is usually fitted with thunders and aphids/pinatas/mags. Or twin trebs and gekkos. Fourth slot would be good for a boa: a cheap, fast and resilient capper. Best used with a thunder and taran. Edit: Sgt. Fury had all my points covered and then some. Hard to type fast with sore thumbs.  |
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Post by moflete on Nov 16, 2017 14:21:53 GMT -5
"I feel MM is rigged so that to progress further you need to cash in more". Good morning, lad. Care for breakfast?
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Post by maverick on Nov 16, 2017 21:19:37 GMT -5
I've only been playing for 3 - 4 months so I'm still pretty new at War Robots as well. What has helped me a huge amount is watching youtube videos and reading these forums. Listen to what people are telling you, most have the games (and therefore new players) best interests at heart. Get some Griffins and Leos, level your weapons slightly higher than or level with your bots and drop fugin and rajin. Spend WSP on weapons before bots and save gold for hanger spots.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 0:11:00 GMT -5
Lvl 1 Spirals? ... you may as well be lobbing tennis balls That kang is painfully slow too FWIW I don't rate either of the spider bots - just not mobile enough for my taste Those 2 Orkans would go on a nice Griff (with 2 pinatas) what else do you have in you inventory? All current weapons equipped on my bot are what's in my inventory, I sell off the rest. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 0:11:42 GMT -5
I would say you are holding yourself back. You need to get your 4th and 5th slot. I'm saving gold, so far I saved up 568 gold through grinding and daily missions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 0:14:58 GMT -5
Ok, based on the peek at your hangar, here are my recommendations: 1. Stop lvl up your bots. Yes, higher lvl gives a bit more speed and a few more hp, but it may push you higher than you want to go. 2. Get your weapons to the same lvl or close, probably no higher than lvl 6. This will keep you from having "strong" and "weak" bots. Balance is what you're after. 3. 4th and 5th slot. These are game changers. They'll give you more options to cover different maps and help you to see the end of battles more often. Plus, Pixonic can't nerf (make less effective) a hangar slot. They do it all the time with bots and weapons. 4. #3 means no spending gold on ANYTHING until you get those hangar slots. This is the hard part - grinding and saving your gold. It will take a while, but it's so worth it. 5. Learn to roll with the punches. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Just part of the game. It is frustrating when you're on a "bug" streak, but keep hammering. 6. Avoid Fujin and Rajin in general. They're not very mobile and they're pretty fragile, Fujin especially. Good firepower, but too susceptible to too many things. WSP are better spent on weapons. When you have a few Magnums and Tarans, Stalker is pretty handy, and though I'm not a huge fan, Rhino is put to good use by some. Carnage is viable well into Champion League, if you have such aspirations. 7. For what bots to use (since 2/3 of your hangar is on the "not recommended" list), I get good use out of Leo (mag/thunder, Pun/thunder), Boa (taran/thunder) and Golem (ork/pinata/thunder). I'm still saving for my 5th slot...1100 au to go! These suggestions are from a 2 year player who has a Champion account with maxed bots and weapons (including a couple MK2 Orkans), who has more fun playing a 2nd account in Silver with everything at lvl 6. For your consideration. See you on the battlefield. Thank you for your advice man, I plan to level my bots/weapons to level 8 and stop, I know Fujin and Raijin sucks but I always find a way around to utilize their full potential. I've saved up 3,000 WSP so far for a Carnage, then Taran/Magnums come after. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 0:18:07 GMT -5
Oh right sorry I forgot to list my hanger: Fujin lvl 8: lv5 orkan/lv5 orkan/lv5 taran Raijin lvl 7: lv5 thunder/lv5 thunder Natasha lv6: lv5 Zeus/Lv5 Kang dae/lv1 spiral/lv1 spiral Fujin gets reckt with by plasma griffins and 4x aphid pattons, Raijin is exposed to rockets even in bastion mode and Natasha is mid range fighter but still exposed to zenits and noricums. My take on this. First and foremost i would highly recommend a fourth slot. Also dont level past 6 on weapons unless you want to overshoot the fun zone. And not much higher on bots. The spiderbots are hard to reposition, cumbersome with team mates and tend to get wrecked exactly as you describe because of shortcomings in mobility. These may be holding you back. DB (death button) Griffins would be a better carrier for your orkans. With pins or aphids when you can get them. PDB (plasma death button) Griffins if you can scrounge up another taran and a couple of mags. Nat is usually fitted with thunders and aphids/pinatas/mags. Or twin trebs and gekkos. Fourth slot would be good for a boa: a cheap, fast and resilient capper. Best used with a thunder and taran. Edit: Sgt. Fury had all my points covered and then some. Hard to type fast with sore thumbs. I tried putting the 2 orkans together with 2 pinatas on my Griffin but it had to be exposed so much to get close to shoot and the only 2 maps it works well with is Shenzen and Moon. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 0:23:13 GMT -5
I've only been playing for 3 - 4 months so I'm still pretty new at War Robots as well. What has helped me a huge amount is watching youtube videos and reading these forums. Listen to what people are telling you, most have the games (and therefore new players) best interests at heart. Get some Griffins and Leos, level your weapons slightly higher than or level with your bots and drop fugin and rajin. Spend WSP on weapons before bots and save gold for hanger spots. Good luck Why do people hate the Fujin and Raijin so much?? it's part of the game and costs WSP to get. While Leo has 3 Light slots and 1 Heavy slot it's still not strong enough as a CQC fighter. I tried Thunder+Pinata Leo but most of the time I'm slow and getting close requires a lot of exposure. I can't find the right Griffin build because I don't have all the plasma weapons for it yet. My hanger is made for CQC now. I only changed Kang Dae to Thunder and the 2 spirals to Pinatas but it's still not good enough. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 17, 2017 0:40:12 GMT -5
I dont think hate is what people feel towards the spider bots. I think its experience. Most have pushed them to their limits and there simply are are other platforms that serve the same purpose and provide better options. I own a fujin and occasionally play it with tarans/aphids.
With the widespread intro of the haechi into circulation, a lot of people have switched to running plasma bots, hence a reduction in the utility of ancile bots. Specially for up close dirty work. They might however find resurgence with the wide adoption of shocktrains.
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Post by danny on Nov 17, 2017 0:40:43 GMT -5
I can't progress past silver 3 league when my league rating was 1,299, suddenly I get crap teams, enemy team having more paid bots/weapons, fighting against gold league players is like trying to punch a brick wall with your bare fists. I always try my best, but it's impossible now that I see 4x aphid pattons, 2x magnum/2x taran griffins, Lancelot and they are so OP, especially the 4x aphid button which took my teammates one by one on the Moon map and no one can even get close to him. I see a lot of snipers on my team and I can see why they camp now. Also last battle I saw someone on my team have a MKII weapon 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 I feel MM is rigged so that to progress further you need to cash in more, which is happening to me right now. I would be on a winning streak and then all of a sudden I'm on a long losing streak, which takes 17-22 rating points off when my team gets steamrolled and people leave as well. I'm now left at 1,108 league rating points and it's going down because I'm seeing lancelots and kumihos more now. I checked my enemy teams hangers and they have level 9/10 bots and weapons while mine are still level 5 weapons and lvl 6-8 bots. what the hell??? I can't make any progress now and it's just looping back and forth not letting me go up further in leagues. Before posting this I was on a losing streak for every domination match I joined in either team leaves when we're losing or getting steamrolled bad. You need to stop thinking of "progress" as moving up the leagues. Progress should be seen as getting the hangar that will give you the most fun in the game. It's really, really good to stay in Silver. It's the most fun league in the game. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 17, 2017 0:43:25 GMT -5
Lvl 1 Spirals? ... you may as well be lobbing tennis balls That kang is painfully slow too FWIW I don't rate either of the spider bots - just not mobile enough for my taste Those 2 Orkans would go on a nice Griff (with 2 pinatas) what else do you have in you inventory? All current weapons equipped on my bot are what's in my inventory, I sell off the rest. Id urge you to reconsider selling levelled weapons. Pixonic is always buffing and nerfing something. Everythings bound to be useful at some point. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 17, 2017 0:45:20 GMT -5
Ok, based on the peek at your hangar, here are my recommendations: 1. Stop lvl up your bots. Yes, higher lvl gives a bit more speed and a few more hp, but it may push you higher than you want to go. 2. Get your weapons to the same lvl or close, probably no higher than lvl 6. This will keep you from having "strong" and "weak" bots. Balance is what you're after. 3. 4th and 5th slot. These are game changers. They'll give you more options to cover different maps and help you to see the end of battles more often. Plus, Pixonic can't nerf (make less effective) a hangar slot. They do it all the time with bots and weapons. 4. #3 means no spending gold on ANYTHING until you get those hangar slots. This is the hard part - grinding and saving your gold. It will take a while, but it's so worth it. 5. Learn to roll with the punches. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Just part of the game. It is frustrating when you're on a "bug" streak, but keep hammering. 6. Avoid Fujin and Rajin in general. They're not very mobile and they're pretty fragile, Fujin especially. Good firepower, but too susceptible to too many things. WSP are better spent on weapons. When you have a few Magnums and Tarans, Stalker is pretty handy, and though I'm not a huge fan, Rhino is put to good use by some. Carnage is viable well into Champion League, if you have such aspirations. 7. For what bots to use (since 2/3 of your hangar is on the "not recommended" list), I get good use out of Leo (mag/thunder, Pun/thunder), Boa (taran/thunder) and Golem (ork/pinata/thunder). I'm still saving for my 5th slot...1100 au to go! These suggestions are from a 2 year player who has a Champion account with maxed bots and weapons (including a couple MK2 Orkans), who has more fun playing a 2nd account in Silver with everything at lvl 6. For your consideration. See you on the battlefield. Thank you for your advice man, I plan to level my bots/weapons to level 8 and stop, I know Fujin and Raijin sucks but I always find a way around to utilize their full potential. I've saved up 3,000 WSP so far for a Carnage, then Taran/Magnums come after. Keep in mind, lv 8 could but you in high gold low diamond. Thats the gate to the wild wild west. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 17, 2017 0:50:36 GMT -5
I tried putting the 2 orkans together with 2 pinatas on my Griffin but it had to be exposed so much to get close to shoot and the only 2 maps it works well with is Shenzen and Moon. You can check a lot of videos on how to best utilize griffs many talents. A few things Ive observed with good pilots are: 1)Pop and shoot. 2)jump strafe -jump perpendicular to target firing while in the air. 3)fade strafe -jump backwards from target and into safety while firing. 4)They rarely jump into a skirmish they cannot win. 5)They save their jumps for safety. There are more killer moves but I'll save those for the seasoned griff jocks to clue you in. |
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Post by BlackGrouse on Nov 17, 2017 1:18:47 GMT -5
I can't progress past silver 3 league when my league rating was 1,299, suddenly I get crap teams, enemy team having more paid bots/weapons, fighting against gold league players is like trying to punch a brick wall with your bare fists. Passing league borders is always hard. I have experienced it many times. When I have gained enough league points to pass border - about 50 to 100 points - matches do get "easier" and teams are more evenly leveled. It has happened in my main account (in Expert 3 now) and in the secondary (Gold 2). Matches in that grey area are tough and enemies more powerful than a player who tries to climb up to next league. My experience comes from android, played about 18 months. Spent real money only once to one Orkan (last year Black Friday offer) and maybe four 30-day premium times in whole time. As mentioned earlier, your 3 slot hangar is not competitive enough. Fourth slot is highly recommended and it's Au price is not overwhelming. 5th slot takes more time if not buying gold for it, but it's worth of it. Level up your weapons is my only advice, I'm not going to say what to run it's up to you ! Well maybe Spirals can be left out once you progress... I haven't sell almost any weapons out of my main account. Counted someday weapons in inventory and got 68 weapons spread out to different levels, mostly basic stock levels (won from events, Black Market and so on). And few more which were equipped to inventory robots. About to DB Griffin (Orkan/Pinata); it does massive amount of damage in short time from close range so it has to be used carefully with situation awareness. Save your jump. You will climb up, it might took time and trying it with random team(s) is sometimes awful task. Don't give up |
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Post by hyderier on Nov 17, 2017 1:29:38 GMT -5
Oh right sorry I forgot to list my hanger: Fujin lvl 8: lv5 orkan/lv5 orkan/lv5 taran Raijin lvl 7: lv5 thunder/lv5 thunder Natasha lv6: lv5 Zeus/Lv5 Kang dae/lv1 spiral/lv1 spiral Fujin gets reckt with by plasma griffins and 4x aphid pattons, Raijin is exposed to rockets even in bastion mode and Natasha is mid range fighter but still exposed to zenits and noricums. This is why you want mobility! You have 2 Orkans, so make a DB (Orkan Pinata) Griffin, still one of the best bots on the game! Arm Fujin with 3 Tulumbas. That gives it more range that Tarans and Magnums (and Ember), which let's you benefit from Fujin shield more. Punishers would be good too, but they start at level 1 so you'd have to spend a lot of time to make them useful, while Tulumbas are ok off the shelf. But 3 Tarans might also be a good investment for the future! Keep Raijin, try your different heavy weapons on it. Or Natasha, which ever you like, just swap them around and see. That'll cost you something like... 4 million silver? Meaningless amount in the grand scheme of things, so do it as soon as you can (hopefully immediately). Some would say get 4th and 5th slot, and you should, when you want to go up in leagues. But I'd say you are in no hurry to do that. Save Au and get above gear to level 9 (max speed for bots, a bit of a sweet spot for power/silver cost for weapons) before adding hangar slots. Oh, and decide if you want Kumiho or Haechi, and start collecting one. Only get good offers! And by that I mean, calculate the cost of 10000 components for each offer, and if it is too much for the item you want (ignore the other in your calculation), then wait for next offer. So you might get more components just once or twice a week. |
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Post by iffuriescouldrun on Nov 17, 2017 1:55:08 GMT -5
GET FOURTH SLOOOOOTTTT!!!!
Besides, play tactically and going to gold 3 is as simple as reading this!
I mean,I am, in my new account, gold three with- Thunpinata Leo(base level)
Thunpinata Leo(base level)
PDB griffin (all level six but there is a lv5 taran)
RDB griffin (base level)
Trust me, you can easily go to gold with that hangar of yours
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Post by iffuriescouldrun on Nov 17, 2017 1:56:22 GMT -5
I am on android though...
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I feel MM is rigged so that to progress further you need to cash in more, which is happening to me right now. I would be on a winning streak and then all of a sudden I'm on a long losing streak, which takes 17-22 rating points off when my team gets steamrolled and people leave as well.
