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Post by deputy666 on Nov 13, 2017 10:22:41 GMT -5
Played a game yesterday that had to be the shortest one in history. I didn't realize that clans could play together in regular, random game play, but it appears they can. Holy cripes. We got swarmed and the game was over in a matter of seconds. All top tier, fully upgraded bots with maximum upgraded weapons. I'm sure my whole team was left with their jaws hanging open and saying "What The Fudge?" I forgot the name of the clan. I think is was 3 letters. But it was one of the least enjoyable games I have played. Is this common? Are clans allowed to play as one team vs a random team? Seems like something like that shouldn't happen. I mean you have players with bots that are brand new and not upgraded and they hardly know how to operate them against a team that has the "best-of-the-best" and are pros. Even in World of Tanks, the most you could play against in a Random game was a platoon of 3.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Nov 13, 2017 10:39:32 GMT -5
This has happenedat various times since I have been playing the game.
In the current MM, with a squad being composed of a spectrum of players from Diamond, Expert, Master and Champion then any squads with a mix could face an entire squad of Champions since the MM algorithm picked, what appeared to be just a regular ol' Champion.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 13, 2017 10:58:38 GMT -5
I'm talking about a random group facing just ONE clan. I mean the WHOLE opposing team was ONE clan. I have no problem with my team being a mix of new people and the opposing team being a mix of pros. But having to face ONE clan seems to be a pretty bad setup. Just seems like that type of setup shouldn't happen. A clan should face a clan....not a random mix.
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Post by MΞCHДИISΓIC on Nov 13, 2017 12:40:21 GMT -5
Yep, 6 people can squad up and often clan squads are also on a voice app so can talk live. FInd a clan to join and you too can play with true team work. On the bright side if you like to just solo random games, it isnt all that often that you face a full clan squad (at least in E1). When you do, it will always end the same.
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Post by stokr on Nov 13, 2017 12:54:19 GMT -5
Clan on PuG matches are generally pretty quick. Once in a blue moon you can make 'em earn it and rarer even take 'em. The best outcome you can work for in most cases is top damage.
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Rice Patty Daddy
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Pilot name: Rice Patty Daddy
Clan: CDxx
League: Legend
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Strider
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Post by Rice Patty Daddy on Nov 13, 2017 14:47:15 GMT -5
I fully agree with you all and hope changes are made soon. I can see how frustrating and frankly ridiculous it can be to you. A full clan against a random team is very unfair. I understand it is easier for me to say as I am actually on the other side of the case in point. However, I have been in your position while. playing solo random and the other team is a full clan. It's a complete 「grape」 fest. You run through 5 bots in 2 minutes and lucky to have maintained your single home beacon. I just thought I might commend you on a very good point and hope for the same changes in the future. Hopefully we will end up on the same team sometime and help each other out.
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Post by Roninsedge on Nov 13, 2017 15:09:06 GMT -5
I feel your pain. I once ended up against a squad of 5 BoAM clan mates and when my second bot spawned our spawn point was surrounded and all 5 beacons were red. Any squad teamed up and communicating is a daunting challenge to defeat.
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 13, 2017 15:14:56 GMT -5
Welcome to the joys of playing War Robots as of November 2017. What system/league are you on? This happens to me at least a couple of times each day.
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Post by Roninsedge on Nov 13, 2017 15:51:23 GMT -5
I started the day before the Halloween Event started. I'm Diamond II or III on the Amazon servers. I went a little crazy on the event goals since I am also burning vacation time before the end of the year.
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Post by pirateb0t on Nov 13, 2017 18:34:15 GMT -5
Just wait until you get to the upper level of league play where you'll get whole squads of champions in top 10 clans with fully upgraded mk2 dash hangars playing against your mixed expert,masters, champ randoms. This happens a lot. It doesn't even really bother me much anymore since when I see an entire clan on the enemy team I usually just turtle up. They can get the win but I refuse to let them have easy kills this way.
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Post by amidf on Nov 13, 2017 19:15:49 GMT -5
I fully agree with you all and hope changes are made soon. I can see how frustrating and frankly ridiculous it can be to you. A full clan against a random team is very unfair. I understand it is easier for me to say as I am actually on the other side of the case in point. However, I have been in your position while. playing solo random and the other team is a full clan. It's a complete ?grape? fest. You run through 5 bots in 2 minutes and lucky to have maintained your single home beacon. I just thought I might commend you on a very good point and hope for the same changes in the future. Hopefully we will end up on the same team sometime and help each other out. Hey, Rice Patty. Your hangar has been discussed on these forums previously. But what I've wondered about is your name. Why "Patty?" Did you mean paddy?
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 13, 2017 22:38:39 GMT -5
I fully agree with you all and hope changes are made soon. I can see how frustrating and frankly ridiculous it can be to you. A full clan against a random team is very unfair. I understand it is easier for me to say as I am actually on the other side of the case in point. However, I have been in your position while. playing solo random and the other team is a full clan. It's a complete ?grape? fest. You run through 5 bots in 2 minutes and lucky to have maintained your single home beacon. I just thought I might commend you on a very good point and hope for the same changes in the future. Hopefully we will end up on the same team sometime and help each other out. There's a legend in our midst. I remember when you were a soloist. And I still see you going solo once in awhile. Your a machine. #1 player in iOS. *tips hat*
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 13, 2017 22:47:57 GMT -5
Just wait until you get to the upper level of league play where you'll get whole squads of champions in top 10 clans with fully upgraded mk2 dash hangars playing against your mixed expert,masters, champ randoms. This happens a lot. It doesn't even really bother me much anymore since when I see an entire clan on the enemy team I usually just turtle up. They can get the win but I refuse to let them have easy kills this way. That would be an improvement in some ways (figuratively at least) as many top 10 clan members are total seal clubbers who troll lower leagues in way OP bots. One marked Mexico is the worst I have seen at it but there are many others with less memorable names. I quit doing clans b/c I got tired of bad karma from seal clubbers in the group yielding lopsided matches and did not like being pressured to remain in lower leagues to gain an advantage. Now I am at a point where I don't really care what bots are in red except for really annoying ones. Most of them have older higher level weapons and bots anyway. Clans running line or similar apps will just roll randoms though.
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Post by AVC on Nov 14, 2017 4:21:16 GMT -5
Nov 14, 2017 14:47:57 GMT 11 cmdrperalta said: as many top 10 clan members are total seal clubbers who troll lower leagues ![](https://i.imgur.com/3LaVtwB.jpg)
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Post by Alpha on Nov 14, 2017 6:23:46 GMT -5
I think the answer is this that when the clan que for a battle they end up getting a PuG group due the fact no other clan had qued at that time.
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Post by darthbobafett on Nov 14, 2017 15:31:25 GMT -5
Played a game yesterday that had to be the shortest one in history. I didn't realize that clans could play together in regular, random game play, but it appears they can. Holy cripes. We got swarmed and the game was over in a matter of seconds. All top tier, fully upgraded bots with maximum upgraded weapons. I'm sure my whole team was left with their jaws hanging open and saying "What The Fudge?" I forgot the name of the clan. I think is was 3 letters. But it was one of the least enjoyable games I have played. Is this common? Are clans allowed to play as one team vs a random team? Seems like something like that shouldn't happen. I mean you have players with bots that are brand new and not upgraded and they hardly know how to operate them against a team that has the "best-of-the-best" and are pros. Even in World of Tanks, the most you could play against in a Random game was a platoon of 3. You probably you met F4L or F/\L. Top clans, lots of money spent on their hangars, and pretty irritating. You can't beat a full clan of them but sometimes (If you have a really good team behind you) you can beat 1 or 2 members in a match. When my clan makes a full squad we usually face them once or twice. Btw nice to see another Facebook Gameroom player on the forums. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by NerFB on Nov 14, 2017 15:46:23 GMT -5
I fully agree with you all and hope changes are made soon. I can see how frustrating and frankly ridiculous it can be to you. A full clan against a random team is very unfair. I understand it is easier for me to say as I am actually on the other side of the case in point. However, I have been in your position while. playing solo random and the other team is a full clan. It's a complete ?grape? fest. You run through 5 bots in 2 minutes and lucky to have maintained your single home beacon. I just thought I might commend you on a very good point and hope for the same changes in the future. Hopefully we will end up on the same team sometime and help each other out. There's a legend in our midst. I remember when you were a soloist. And I still see you going solo once in awhile. Your a machine. #1 player in iOS. *tips hat* I hope it’s not DirtyLikeARat in disguise...
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Post by amidf on Nov 14, 2017 15:50:31 GMT -5
And the Patty/Paddy choice shall remain a mystery.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2017 16:07:50 GMT -5
Played a game yesterday that had to be the shortest one in history. I didn't realize that clans could play together in regular, random game play, but it appears they can. Holy cripes. We got swarmed and the game was over in a matter of seconds. All top tier, fully upgraded bots with maximum upgraded weapons. I'm sure my whole team was left with their jaws hanging open and saying "What The Fudge?" I forgot the name of the clan. I think is was 3 letters. But it was one of the least enjoyable games I have played. Is this common? Are clans allowed to play as one team vs a random team? Seems like something like that shouldn't happen. I mean you have players with bots that are brand new and not upgraded and they hardly know how to operate them against a team that has the "best-of-the-best" and are pros. Even in World of Tanks, the most you could play against in a Random game was a platoon of 3. I notice you are on FaceBook GameRoom servers... I play on Android, iOS, and FB/GR... FB is by far the worst. A 2 day old account in Recruit or Private can see Champs LOL! Full squads of F/\L or F4L or whatever other tags you see are very commonly seen as far down as you can go in the leagues, and they aren't tanking or doing anything wrong. The FB/GR MM is just whacked. I noticed that for a long time the average levels even for the top clans are rarely 12s. Usually it's 8-10. I am in Expert in a mostly 7/7 ot 8/7 hangar on FB/GR and that is unheard of in Android unless you are remarkable or just extremely lucky in your league point accumulation. Basically, what I am getting at, is: yes it is common. It may not always be a full squad, but it can and does happen. The MM is supposed to look for other squads first... but if there are none to match up with it will pit them against whatever is available... from Silver 3 on up.... sometimes Bronze and below. Just do what they said above and get as much damage in as you can, and further, my advice is to just work on your basics as you die... leading targets, bending rockets around corners, corner shooting... etc. Make it as hard for them as you can... Don't expect anything at all out of the results... and you won't be disappointed! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2017 19:10:00 GMT -5
LOL just had a match that serves as a case in point to my previous post... On PP in Dominiation Mode. The Results: ![](https://i.imgur.com/uejXQal.jpg) Top 3 Reds: ![](https://i.imgur.com/OlwvT5J.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/ZNy7CDl.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/eH2gXup.jpg) Top 2 Blues (I'm 2nd): ![](https://i.imgur.com/bTuqKQ0.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/q70m3ga.jpg) All the rest were Silver 2 or below. LOL!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 14, 2017 19:12:37 GMT -5
OH, and that top score by Mr. Rage was done with ShockTrain for the most part. He would have done more with it except he charged us and started trying to spawn raid with it.
LOL what a joke FB/GR is... You have to laugh and just keep going... because it is anything but fair. I forgot why I haven't played it for a bit... this match reminded me.
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abarus39
Destrier
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Posts: 39
Karma: 17
Pilot name: Abarus
Platform: Facebook
Clan: WP0
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Lancelot
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Post by abarus39 on Nov 15, 2017 16:12:52 GMT -5
On FBGR as well, I have nothing over level 9 with most of my bots/weapons at level 7 or 8 and Im in champions league which from what ive read would never pass on Android or IOS. If im solo and dropped into a game against a full clan I will drop my worst bots and play up until they start camping the spawn, not dropping a bot to have it wiped out in 5 seconds. Why run up my repair bill and feed them more silver from damage.... Its not fun being on receiving end of those type matches, they are actually pretty boring on the winning side as well....
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 15, 2017 16:40:38 GMT -5
Played a game yesterday that had to be the shortest one in history. I didn't realize that clans could play together in regular, random game play, but it appears they can. Holy cripes. We got swarmed and the game was over in a matter of seconds. All top tier, fully upgraded bots with maximum upgraded weapons. I'm sure my whole team was left with their jaws hanging open and saying "What The Fudge?" I forgot the name of the clan. I think is was 3 letters. But it was one of the least enjoyable games I have played. Is this common? Are clans allowed to play as one team vs a random team? Seems like something like that shouldn't happen. I mean you have players with bots that are brand new and not upgraded and they hardly know how to operate them against a team that has the "best-of-the-best" and are pros. Even in World of Tanks, the most you could play against in a Random game was a platoon of 3. You probably you met F4L or F/\L. Top clans, lots of money spent on their hangars, and pretty irritating. You can't beat a full clan of them but sometimes (If you have a really good team behind you) you can beat 1 or 2 members in a match. When my clan makes a full squad we usually face them once or twice. Btw nice to see another Facebook Gameroom player on the forums. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) LOL...I was beginning to think I was the ONLY Facebook player!!! I started playing the game on my Android phone, but bot control was just impossible with my old fingers. So I moved to Facebook. Much more enjoyable using WASD and a mouse. Plus graphics are a million times better. I have seen the clans you mentioned as individual players. They are definitely very good. But they weren't the ones. I want to say the name started with a "T", but I'm just not sure. Getting old sucks for memory ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That one time was the only time I have experienced it so far. Made me so frustrated I just had to post about it. I am at level 25 Bronze league 1. I keep bouncing back and forth between that and Silver league 3.
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Post by darthbobafett on Nov 15, 2017 18:49:37 GMT -5
You probably you met F4L or F/\L. Top clans, lots of money spent on their hangars, and pretty irritating. You can't beat a full clan of them but sometimes (If you have a really good team behind you) you can beat 1 or 2 members in a match. When my clan makes a full squad we usually face them once or twice. Btw nice to see another Facebook Gameroom player on the forums. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) LOL...I was beginning to think I was the ONLY Facebook player!!! I started playing the game on my Android phone, but bot control was just impossible with my old fingers. So I moved to Facebook. Much more enjoyable using WASD and a mouse. Plus graphics are a million times better. I have seen the clans you mentioned as individual players. They are definitely very good. But they weren't the ones. I want to say the name started with a "T", but I'm just not sure. Getting old sucks for memory ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That one time was the only time I have experienced it so far. Made me so frustrated I just had to post about it. I am at level 25 Bronze league 1. I keep bouncing back and forth between that and Silver league 3. Yeah I could never play on my phone lol. But I hope you get to higher leagues! Try joining a clan, it adds a whole lot of fun. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Alpha on Nov 16, 2017 7:26:00 GMT -5
LOL...I was beginning to think I was the ONLY Facebook player!!! I started playing the game on my Android phone, but bot control was just impossible with my old fingers. So I moved to Facebook. Much more enjoyable using WASD and a mouse. Plus graphics are a million times better. I have seen the clans you mentioned as individual players. They are definitely very good. But they weren't the ones. I want to say the name started with a "T", but I'm just not sure. Getting old sucks for memory ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That one time was the only time I have experienced it so far. Made me so frustrated I just had to post about it. I am at level 25 Bronze league 1. I keep bouncing back and forth between that and Silver league 3. Yeah I could never play on my phone lol. But I hope you get to higher leagues! Try joining a clan, it adds a whole lot of fun. ![:)](http://community.xat.com/images/smilies/smile.png) Yep totally agree, join a clan its fun and you get any advise you need. (coffee)
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 18, 2017 11:25:06 GMT -5
Okay...I'm glad you guys brought up this clan thing. Besides stomping the he** out of non-clan players in Random battles, is there any other benefit? Do you earn gold or credits with clan membership? Do you get to win things like bots or weapons by scoring higher than other clans? Part of my problem is I don't own a mic/headset and most clans require voice comms to join. Plus my boss (wife) gets disturbed when I get too vocal playing the games. Yacking constantly during a battle wouldn't go over very well. Also, I have gone down the list of clans on Facebook. The majority of them don't speak English. So they are out. I have been in clans in World of Tanks. I am an old curmudgeon. When there are clan members that start cussing and screaming about a loss, I don't enjoy that. And taking orders from some 12-year-old, even if he is a master player...not gonna happen. I took orders most of my life. I am retired now and I don't take orders from anyone...except the wife ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 18, 2017 12:08:40 GMT -5
The only way I can think of that you could hit an entire squad of the same clan and they NOT be in a squad together is if they all happened to be on Coms and did a synced " to battle" at the same time. A while back this was much easier as the MM would not pit pilots from the same clan against each other, this has since changed and I see my guys in red more often then in blue.
What you experienced seems like a total fluke to me. Even if they did sync drop the chances of them all ending up together since the MM change seems extremely rare.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 18, 2017 17:04:55 GMT -5
The only way I can think of that you could hit an entire squad of the same clan and they NOT be in a squad together is if they all happened to be on Coms and did a synced " to battle" at the same time. A while back this was much easier as the MM would not pit pilots from the same clan against each other, this has since changed and I see my guys in red more often then in blue. What you experienced seems like a total fluke to me. Even if they did sync drop the chances of them all ending up together since the MM change seems extremely rare. Well I have been "fluked" 3 times now. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Happened again yesterday and today. So there is some flukey stuff going on in this game. I have to start writing down the names of these clans so I can give examples. The battle sure ends fast when they are in it. Even faster than a platoon of 3 clan mates in World of Tanks. They just hold down the W key and obliterate everything they see. They don't even bother with the beacons. They just blast the opposing bots to pieces and win by everyone running out of bots.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 18, 2017 17:12:21 GMT -5
The only way I can think of that you could hit an entire squad of the same clan and they NOT be in a squad together is if they all happened to be on Coms and did a synced " to battle" at the same time. A while back this was much easier as the MM would not pit pilots from the same clan against each other, this has since changed and I see my guys in red more often then in blue. What you experienced seems like a total fluke to me. Even if they did sync drop the chances of them all ending up together since the MM change seems extremely rare. Well I have been "fluked" 3 times now. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Happened again yesterday and today. So there is some flukey stuff going on in this game. I have to start writing down the names of these clans so I can give examples. The battle sure ends fast when they are in it. Even faster than a platoon of 3 clan mates in World of Tanks. They just hold down the W key and obliterate everything they see. They don't even bother with the beacons. They just blast the opposing bots to pieces and win by everyone running out of bots. Take some screen shots of the end battle results. I would love to see em.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 18, 2017 22:42:46 GMT -5
Well I have been "fluked" 3 times now. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Happened again yesterday and today. So there is some flukey stuff going on in this game. I have to start writing down the names of these clans so I can give examples. The battle sure ends fast when they are in it. Even faster than a platoon of 3 clan mates in World of Tanks. They just hold down the W key and obliterate everything they see. They don't even bother with the beacons. They just blast the opposing bots to pieces and win by everyone running out of bots. Take some screen shots of the end battle results. I would love to see em. Will do. It ain't a pretty sight.
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