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Post by dizzeeruscal on Jan 23, 2017 9:23:32 GMT -5
I think that mother's post is what a lot of people who have been playing the game for less than a year are thinking.
This change to the matchmaker is first and foremost a money making exercise on Pixonic's part, it has very little to do with any feedback from players, such as complaining about unfair bot and weapon setups, that is why there has not been any communication or information from them. If Pixonic had wanted to prevent new players from being clubbed by experienced players, they just had to add a players xp level into the matchmaker, for example 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-30, and they could have increased the max xp level to 40 or 50 or 100 etc.
Pixonic is a business, they have no interest in players who are happy to stop upgrading and play at "bronze tier" or "silver tier", those players do not make them any money and just take up space on the servers, they only want players who will use real money to upgrade faster and buy bots. The reality is, players who get killed by geps will buy geps, but it is the cheapest real money bot in the game, so Pixonic have probably decided that there are too many people using them to get maxed hangars for just the cost of the time they spend playing the game. Pixonic have already increased the time and cost of upgrading and decreased the amount of silver earned in battle several times, so they probably don't want to push that any further, I expect that they have now decided that they have enough active maxed hangar players on iOS to keep the matchmaker starting battles in 30 seconds or less, so they can implement this new system, which will make none paying players more likely to quit, and paying players more likely to pay more often.
The only clubbing bot now is the trident fury, shame on all of you who use an overpowered bot and weapon combination! But if you enjoy camping out, and pressing the red button every 10 seconds, please carry on. As it is one of the most expensive setups to max, I doubt that Pixonic will be nerfing it, after all, they added in the player profile function so that new players could see exactly what it was that kept killing them and buy it themselves. But of course, on the test server they have buffed the ancile, the latest expensive item to get the treatment, so I am sure that it will become the next big moneymaker after the update is released.
I am sorry if this is bursting the bubble of any of the newly named insiders, but no one outside of the company will ever have any real influence over the development decisions of a freemium game, even the days of the community influencing upfront payment games are numbered, as more and more of these have additional add-ons available for a price. For example, we don't even have a reload button! Why? Because the more expensive weapons auto reload, or empty and reload quicker, so why give any help to the cheaper projectile weapons? The buff they received must have failed to increased spending on upgrading them, because on the test server they have been put back to how they were.
All of this is just my opinion, based on observations and logic. I personally think that this is still one of the best freemium games on the App Store, and that it is unrealistic of anyone to think that a freemium game will not be like this. I am amazed that it went so long without this change being made. Once you accept reality, you will be able to enjoy the game more, you can't expect to be on an equal footing if you don't have any premium items/haven't spent any real money, unless you do a lot of grinding. That is how these games work, make you mad so that you will spend your money. Stay calm and keep grinding people, you will get there in the end! (And you had better start grinding now, because it has only been getting worse!)
I also challenge all of the players with maxed hangars who are defending this change to the matchmaker to start the game from scratch! I doubt that you would last a month before going back to your maxed hangars or spending lots of money!
I do not have any connection to Pixonic! x-D
See you on the battlefield
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Post by ivx on Jan 23, 2017 9:55:12 GMT -5
+ 1 to everything you said. When I first got in two-three months back I was pretty amazed at how little this app wanted money. I was even more amazed when I found out it survived for 2 years like this because I presumed it was very new - devs sometimes make games like this extremely f2p friendly in the very beginning to entice new players and then slowly turn the heat up when they reach critical mass. This is normal for mobile games and even after the MM change I can still think of many, many companies much more greedy (imagine a new exclusive overpowered bot every month for $99.99, sold with upgraded weapons for only $49.99). I can think of a few better ones though too, but in the end it comes down to Pix and their new owners. I hope they'll at least use the profits this year to do something good for the game. Maps, graphics, fix the glitches and stuff, redesign a few bots that look like boxes, make it all look and run impressive and smooth. Make a really amazing game out of it. And don't be surprised, you 12/12 guys who grinded or clubbed for it, when in a while the max. levels get raised and you're in the same 「dookie」.  They need players to start going for 12/12 now and when enough do, it will go to 14/14 or 18/18 to raise the bar and get you people working on it. It will of course be communicated as "Pilots! We've heard the desperate pleas and cries of our poor bored Level 12 players who have been unjustly forgotten for years...", LOL. Nothing new under the sun. |
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 23, 2017 12:21:49 GMT -5
The problem with the new mm is that it hasn't had enough time for the player ratings to accurately represent the skills of each individual player. Wait it out for a week or so and the new mm will be just as good as or better than the old mm. That isn't a very high bar to be honest though... being completley outmatched has nothing to do with skill if my 4/12 4/ 9 silver hangar is going up against lvl 11/11 12/12 hangars then thats not match making that.. Thats something else but match making is not the proper term Sad part is I'm still doing ok at these extrem lvlvs... however I I was bumped up into a more balanced league one tier higher It might actually be a fun challe3nge.. Right now the MM is a "if this does not change fast there will be a MASS EXODUS" situation we shall see, but this weekend was pushover matches, yet today it is very extreme matches.. I really would love to move up just a single tier but the new MM just tosses you to some extremes |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 23, 2017 12:44:38 GMT -5
Mother You misunderstand my circumstances. I am not gloating about having a top tier hanger on my Android account, as I do not. My time spent clubbing was done to speed up equipment upgrades after months of upgrading the wrong ways and getting slaughtered for it. Now I have a balanced hanger at M10/10 & H6/8.75. I hold Pixo to be partly to blame, 1st for creating a system that allowed clubbing, and then in turn creating a "recommended upgrades" system for a previous version of the MM that doesn't apply any more. They set me up for failed twice, so I gamed their flawed system to make up for it. Now that I'm competitive, I don't bother with clubbing, because it's boring, repetitive, and leads to skill decay. The rest of my impassioned essays are in regard to the drastic MM changes in the iOS side of their castle. Pixo never promised us hard lines between tiers. There was a MM before this one that was not flawed so badly as to allow 5xTMGeps clans, and never an expectation of tiers there as well. Pixo tried to mix things up and 「fluffernutter」ed it all up for around a year, and now they are trying to fix it. Yeah, it's all about the revenue streams, so I'm not apologizing for them. Never doubt, this is all done with cold, calculated, statistically vetted research with the intentions of maximizing revenue streams. The 2 most common revenue streams in mobile gaming are 1st time buy-ins, and repeated buy-ins AKA getting whales addicted. The MM that allowed clubbing was designed to increase 1st time buy-in revenue, but backfired and started depressing their repeated revenue over the long term. Now we have a new MM that is likely targeting more whale addiction. This does mean to me that the ratio of F2P vs P2W in the game will get worse, but TBH it's still way better than most mobile franchises, so I'm ok with it. Have you ever played Game of War? Now THAT is some P2W 「fluffernutter」ery. War Robots is nowhere near that bad, so what are y'all so damned afraid of?
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 23, 2017 13:08:32 GMT -5
Match-ups are so ridiculous all I'm doing right now is walking down the center of the battlefield doing nothing.. I can do ok at these lvls .. but that's an extremely unsatisfying experience
if this does not change very soon then I can't stay playing.
I don't mind being bumped up but to be bumped up against maxed opponents screw you Pixonic..... wheres those mid lvl leagues.. Why one extreme to the next ..... and giving the new system time.. HELL NO.. Pixonic could of avoided this mess very easily IMO
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Post by Trogon on Jan 23, 2017 13:18:54 GMT -5
I run 2 light robots in my 4 bit hangar, and I'm enjoying it, preeeeetty sure they go faster the 3 kmh. If I can manage it fine, shouldn't be to hard for others So do I. 2 lights and 3 meds and haven't purposely changed a thing since the new MM because I'm trying to see how it would work with all the changes going on. ...But I'd be lying if I said that it's very enjoyable after the War Robots goes above 60% or so and Griffins, Lances, Rhinos and Furies start coming out. I can manage it to some degree; past that I get one or two-shotted with these lights no matter how careful I am. I don't need to win, or even get gold. But at least being useful and feeling like you've contributed to the team should be a possibility.x1000 |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 23, 2017 13:19:43 GMT -5
and giving the new system time.. HELL NO.. This is exactly one of the major reasons why I hate much of the current generation of kids. Entitled spoilt brats, the lot of ya. Reminds me of Veruca Salt, but you probably don't know who that was. Get over yourself, nobody cares about silver tier clubbers anymore, because there are no more tiers. |
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Post by dizzeeruscal on Jan 23, 2017 13:30:09 GMT -5
I hope they'll at least use the profits this year to do something good for the game. Maps, graphics, fix the glitches and stuff, redesign a few bots that look like boxes, make it all look and run impressive and smooth. Make a really amazing game out of it. I agree. I think the lag is one of the worst problems with the game, obviously this also depends on the individual players' device and internet connection, but I hope Pixonic do everything they can to improve things at their end. They managed to improve the crashing problem, so hopefully they are working on this now, but they probably just need better servers. Looking on the positive side, if lots of people stop playing the game, that can only improve the situation! |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 23, 2017 13:30:33 GMT -5
I agreed with most of what you said, but I'm not sure about this one. The quick and easy thing to do here would've been to nerf the Gep, end of story. Then, some other Gold bot becomes the OP purchase everyone has to have (which already would've been the Fury, I would think). Elo isn't necessary at all, and it cost money to pay the developers to do this work (and some customer satisfaction, although if it turns out well, I intend to increase the rating I've given the game, currently 2 stars). This was exactly why I was so cynical about there really being a new MM coming out. To be sure, I have yet to try out the new MM myself on Android (one of my clanmates, [NovR]CrayCrayy , says he thinks, "It's pretty decent."). But that they went this route instead of going the easy way indicates to me that they do listen and that they do want to take a longer-term view of this game rather than a short-sighted one. For example, this very announcement in the OP. I've also advocated here for many of the specific features in the new MM, which may be a coincidence, but maybe not. After all, if this makes the clubbers leave, this opens the door to all the players avoiding this game because of the clubbers (see the 1-star reviews of this game on Google Play), and I would tend to believe that those players are much more likely to be community-minded than the clubbers. |
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 23, 2017 13:35:28 GMT -5
and giving the new system time.. HELL NO.. This is exactly one of the major reasons why I hate much of the current generation of kids. Entitled spoilt brats, the lot of ya. Reminds me of Veruca Salt, but you probably don't know who that was. Get over yourself, nobody cares about silver tier clubbers anymore, because there are no more tiers. ROTFLMAO I'm 48 I expect to be placed into a MM system that does not push me to an unbeatable extreme I don't understand how you cold think a hangar built for a mid silver should have to fight against maxed players I don;'t mind being challenged or much needed mm adjustments.. but I am not going to play agianst players with max bots while I put forth a hangar of high silver low gold If players closer to my lvl can't beat me then that dictates skill.. However me playing against players way way above me has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with just being outmatched also ive spent money about $350 to support this game.. so to feed me to the extreme wolves... well that's not going to convince me to spend more money |
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Jan 23, 2017 13:39:15 GMT -5
This change to the matchmaker is first and foremost a money making exercise on Pixonic's part, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. They could have easily fixed clubbing without removing 'tiers'. I hope their work on leagues reintroduces the variety, I'd be willing to pay for that. I was going to make my first purchase for a Doc (since that looks like the only reliable way to get one) but ironically it's at the same time the game fell flat for me and the bot will have little use. |
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Post by [NovR]CrayCrayy on Jan 23, 2017 13:42:46 GMT -5
This was exactly why I was so cynical about there really being a new MM coming out. To be sure, I have yet to try out the new MM myself on Android (one of my clanmates, [NovR]CrayCrayy , says he thinks, "It's pretty decent."). Yarp, as I said to [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk , and the rest of our clan, the first two matches I played in the last hour were complete walkover wins, over in less than 3-4 minutes via total beacon domination. 4th match was a hard fight, with teams were roughly equal, and the tide of battle turning numerous times before the enemy team mech'd out - quite enjoyable. 3rd, 5th and 6th matches were the usual exercises in frustration. Even though the damage stats are roughly equivalent, the opposing teams were very clearly much more coordinated, and much more experienced. See screenshots: Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedSo I'd say it was a pretty decent mix of easy wins, tough losses and well-matched fun games. Of course, as previous posters pointed out, and if there is indeed a revamped MM model that's been completely rolled out, we'll need to give it a lot more time before we pass any judgement. To make any snap judgements now would simply be premature and probably inaccurate. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 23, 2017 13:42:57 GMT -5
This change to the matchmaker is first and foremost a money making exercise on Pixonic's part, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. They could have easily fixed clubbing without removing 'tiers'. I hope their work on leagues reintroduces the variety, I'd be willing to pay for that. I was going to make my first purchase for a Doc (since that looks like the only reliable way to get one) but ironically it's at the same time the game fell flat for me and the bot will have little use. Similarly makes me wonder why anyone would grind out for a Jesse. I mean, their window of viability is likely to be pretty narrow in this new system. I wanted one before because I love playing the Lights, but...
I'm not convinced that pure, raw greed was behind this move, either. Plenty of incentive to pay money for new content even with tiers.
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Post by 『 Dᴇᴀᴛʜ 』 on Jan 23, 2017 13:58:07 GMT -5
This is exactly one of the major reasons why I hate much of the current generation of kids. Entitled spoilt brats, the lot of ya. Reminds me of Veruca Salt, but you probably don't know who that was. Get over yourself, nobody cares about silver tier clubbers anymore, because there are no more tiers. ROTFLMAO I'm 48 I expect to be placed into a MM system that does not push me to an unbeatable extreme I don't understand how you cold think a hangar built for a mid silver should have to fight against maxed players I don;'t mind being challenged or much needed mm adjustments.. but I am not going to play agianst players with max bots while I put forth a hangar of high silver low gold If players closer to my lvl can't beat me then that dictates skill.. However me playing against players way way above me has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with just being outmatched also ive spent money about $350 to support this game.. so to feed me to the extreme wolves... well that's not going to convince me to spend more money As FunkenA said, skillwise only players of similar gears and levels should be placed together. Even with this Elo rating thing, there should've never been cases of placing level 12 bots against bots that are 6 or more levels lower than them. This was a pure money grab tactic from Pixonic nothing more nothing less. |
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Post by ivx on Jan 23, 2017 14:05:06 GMT -5
After all, if this makes the clubbers leave, this opens the door to all the players avoiding this game because of the clubbers (see the 1-star reviews of this game on Google Play), and I would tend to believe that those players are much more likely to be community-minded than the clubbers. I don't think it's about community-mindedness or customer satisfaction... It's about money. If all of you who have played this for a long, long time sit at TT and half the newbs buy a MagGep and then speed their way to the top with free gold, they're not exactly earning all that much. Plus, yes, it discourages other people - but honestly, what a whale would do if they got clubbed by a MagGep is buy one. Or five or ten. So I don't think clubbing hurt their revenues as much as some may think, or at least not in the way some seem to think. It hurt their user retention on the f2p/non spender end, not on the cash-payer one. The overpowered Gepard was allowed to club probably precisely because it was the staple purchase for anyone wanting to spend cash on this. It was an advert for itself basically. That guy who came around the corner Mags blazing and killed you in three seconds flat when you were just starting out was a moneymaker for devs and players.* Some spenders then probably got addicted to blasting helpless noobies instead of purchasing whatever new stuff Pix came out with, getting their dopamine hits from exploding helpless Destriers instead of spending on Lancelots. Blasting seals was profitable and psychologically rewarding, so why should they have bought anything at all if they could have had their fun winning 100% of the time AND built a top hangar from it. Clubbing, or maybe more precisely OP bots and weapons will still exist in some form or another... They're good for business. As for the MM... If it helps anything, Pixonic Customer Support said they are still analysing the data and will explain the new MM publicly soon, and possibly tweak it if necessary as judged from what data and player feedback they get. * moneymaker for a relatively small, unknown Russian dev company. Not a moneymaker in the high ambitions of an expanding company that just got bought and prodded into making more money. So that has to change accordingly I guess. |
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 23, 2017 14:10:56 GMT -5
As I said, they had an easier way to go but weren't satisfied with that route.
It's a must that any change would need to increase revenues or, at the very least, be revenue-neutral. I agree that this should pay off for Pixonic in the long run, but even so, there are many companies focus too much on the next quarter to be willing to undertake a risk such as this.
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Post by ivx on Jan 23, 2017 14:23:36 GMT -5
and giving the new system time.. HELL NO.. This is exactly one of the major reasons why I hate much of the current generation of kids. Entitled spoilt brats, the lot of ya. Whoa, whoa, wait, wait. So you seal club to your heart's content, make a competitive hangar from that, justify it all by saying "stupid devs made me upgrade wrong, take that" and then call people who are getting clubbed right now and are impatient about it entitled spoilt brats?  How entitled are you exactly to look down on others when you did it yourself? And on top of that you justify looking down on them by "skill decay" and "impatient kids!" after having clubbed your way to a good hangar, AND at that to "make up for lost time", of all things? Am I crazy or is all this just a tad bit ironic? The only difference between you then and them now is that you got in on time, so to speak, to build a good hangar from it - and understandably have no desire to do it anymore because I completely agree with you that diverse hangars are more interesting and engaging than Gepard madness. I'd have felt the same in your circumstances. Actually I do, even without a mid-high hangar. Variety, spice of life and all that. Not sure if I misunderstood something here but read your own post above. It smells like some mighty self-righteous double standards. And I wouldn't assume most people on this board are kids... Calling people names and guessing ages doesn't get anyone anywhere. Most of us are adult-ish or so I'd like to think (there, I just did it, LOL). Apology to the mods for double posting, I'm on mobile and don't know how to multi-quote. |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 23, 2017 14:52:28 GMT -5
Stop mixing my responses together, you are blending some of my separate points in a sad attempt to make me look like a hypocrite. I never said people getting slaughtered by 12/12 hangers are spoiled brats, in fact I expressed some sympathy for them. I did, however, say that people acting like Pixo owed them the right to club are falsely entitled, and the people that expect to be able to switch tiers even if not intentionally clubbing? Well, functionally it was still clubbing, and Pixo NEVER promised any such thing. See, that's called hearing only what you want to hear, which is foolish, but not something I'd call out as spoiled.
I posted a long and popular thread at the time I was gold farming with suggestions on how to stop me and all the other clubbers and farmers. Pixo did not take my advice to heart and here we are today. I did what I could to affect a change to the system. When that was to no avail, I did what I had to do. This doesn't make me a hypocrite, it makes me an idiot for even trying. Still not going to stop me.
I don't care how many orbital periods that you've managed to stay alive. Flat out refusal to give a new system time to start working as intended is a spoiled, childish reaction to change that belongs in the realm of screaming four year old brats throwing themselves on the floor and kicking their heels and hitting their fists into the floor because Mommy refused to give them their dessert before their dinner! If you are 20+ years old and still carrying around that kind of attitude towards [changes in] the world, then I have no use for you, please stop taking up space on our planet.
I am a reformed flaming troll. I am a self-declared ?poo place? and a walking smart-assed encyclopedia. I have such a strong confidence factor in my own opinion, it's to the point that I've lost all fear of sharing it with others. So... I'm not assuming anything about anybody's ages, I'm reacting to the way they are carrying themselves, and so far many are acting as if they were spoilt little brats with their huge egos, delusional grandure, and an overwhelming sense of entitlement.
Get off my lawn.
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Post by [NovR]CrayCrayy on Jan 23, 2017 14:59:04 GMT -5
+ 1 to everything you said. When I first got in two-three months back I was pretty amazed at how little this app wanted money. I was even more amazed when I found out it survived for 2 years like this because I presumed it was very new - devs sometimes make games like this extremely f2p friendly in the very beginning to entice new players and then slowly turn the heat up when they reach critical mass. This is normal for mobile games and even after the MM change I can still think of many, many companies much more greedy (imagine a new exclusive overpowered bot every month for $99.99, sold with upgraded weapons for only $49.99). I can think of a few better ones though too, but in the end it comes down to Pix and their new owners. I hope they'll at least use the profits this year to do something good for the game. Maps, graphics, fix the glitches and stuff, redesign a few bots that look like boxes, make it all look and run impressive and smooth. Make a really amazing game out of it. And don't be surprised, you 12/12 guys who grinded or clubbed for it, when in a while the max. levels get raised and you're in the same ?poo-poo?. They need players to start going for 12/12 now and when enough do, it will go to 14/14 or 18/18 to raise the bar and get you people working on it. It will of course be communicated as "Pilots! We've heard the desperate pleas and cries of our poor bored Level 12 players who have been unjustly forgotten for years...", LOL. Nothing new under the sun. This is exactly what happened with Mechwarrior Online, which costs $10 just to start playing. Every additional bot you want to "acquire" costs at least $10-15 real world cash-dollars. Upwards of $40 if you want to be competitive. Ironically, it was the quest for information on that game which led me to War Robots, which I got instantly addicted to. I feel that this is the closest option that we have to the original line of the Mechwarrior franchise. Just the right mix of simplicity and complexity. And I've really enjoyed the gradual introduction of new material, and increase in game complexity over time. Like many other MMOFPS games, it will require much tweaking over time to get the balance right. This is especially the case here, with such an accelerated rate of game developments being released to the players. The game is ONLY 2 years old for goodness sake. That was not a sarcastic statement. Over these two years, take the average rate of the introduction of new features and increases in game complexity. It's already quite impressive that we've come this far, the game is still affordably freemium, and Pixonic continuing to accelerate game feature development. As so many have pointed out, Pixonic is a business - If you were the CEO, what decisions would you make to keep the game a success? It's so easy to criticise from a back seat as an outsider. How many of us would last more than a week as the head manager of the game development team? Please remember that Pixonic employees are human beings too. If the game stops being profitable, who is going to pay the developers to keep working their jobs? From the way most of the complaints are being aired, the general player base is certainly not going to be charitable with donations to the developers to feed and house them and their families, and to keep the game development going. I for one, am just thankful that I've found a game that harks back to the glory days of PC mech gaming. On a portable 4 inch screen no less! Back in the day, such a game required an investment in a PC upwards of $2k cash dollars, with much simpler graphics and much lower "performance". And that was a fully dedicated gaming PC that was stuck under a desk. This is the Pentium 4 I built myself more than 16 years ago to play mecha and flight simulations, among other things. War Robots wouldn't even be able to run on it, whereas it runs on our phones now. We don't even have to shell out for a separate device! It still runs well as my movie streaming and file server btw, after installing an SSD as the main drive - Sucks power like a horse though 200 watts =( _ If this sounds to you like a lecture, suck it up, or move on. Whiny, overly-critical and negative players will ruin any game exponentially faster than slight errors in correctable game development decisions. Especially since the game developers have expressed interest in listening to our feedback. Even if they incorporate 10% of our feedback into their decision making, that's still better than nothing. Do you think Blizzard listens to the players who whine about things they don't like, and within a matter of months, makes changes to WoW? dizzeeruscal was spot on - you don't have to spend a single cent on this game if you have the maturity and common sense to develop some patience and grind it out. P.S. This is not to say I agree with the way "low power" hangars are being matched against "high power" hangars. I myself face much tougher opponents while having to carry my team much of the time. See my earlier post for screenshots of my battle results. My attitude and perspective is that if it's not challenging, or is always easy, or "doable", I won't get the satisfaction of beating "better" or "more powerful" opponents. For me, the most rewarding battles are the ones where we face "ridiculous" odds, and still come out on top due to teamwork, skill and camaraderie. This, to me is an essential part of MMOFPS. If you want a less challenging environment, go play a single-person oriented game. I've tried out, and even paid some money for a fair few of the other "mech" games out there. And they've all been exceedingly disappointing. |
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 23, 2017 15:08:24 GMT -5
I really was hoping they would of created multiple tiers where I can move upwards in increments and still feel my skill is what is making the difference. I've taken my silver tier hangar today and I'm constantly being teamed up against mid to high gold players.. There has to be a tier between 9/12 lvl heavy med bots weps and 4/12 4/9 silver setup, and this is completely gone. Its purely the extreme jump in lvl that is pissing people off
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 23, 2017 15:11:09 GMT -5
gotten for years...", LOL. This is exactly what happened with Mechwarrior Online, which costs $10 just to start playing. Every additional bot you want to "acquire" costs at least $10-15 real world cash-dollars. Upwards of $40 if you want to be competitive. Ironically, it was the quest for information on that game which led me to War Robots, which I got instantly addicted to. I feel that this is the closest option that we have to the original line of the Mechwarrior franchise. Just the right mix of simplicity and complexity. And I've really enjoyed the gradual introduction of new material, and increase in game complexity over time. Like many other MMOFPS games, it will require much tweaking over time to get the balance right. This is especially the case here, with such an accelerated rate of game developments being released to the players. The game is ONLY 2 years old for goodness sake. That was not a sarcastic statement. Over these two years, take the average rate of the introduction of new features and increases in game complexity. It's already quite impressive that we've come this far, the game is still affordably freemium, and Pixonic continuing to accelerate game feature development. As so many have pointed out, Pixonic is a business - If you were the CEO, what decisions would you make to keep the game a success? It's so easy to criticise from a back seat as an outsider. How many of us would last more than a week as the head manager of the game development team? Please remember that Pixonic employees are human beings too. If the game stops being profitable, who is going to pay the developers to keep working their jobs? From the way most of the complaints are being aired, the general player base is certainly not going to be charitable with donations to the developers to feed and house them and their families, and to keep the game development going. I for one, am just thankful that I've found a game that harks back to the glory days of PC mech gaming. On a portable 4 inch screen no less! Back in the day, such a game required an investment in a PC upwards of $2k cash dollars, with much simpler graphics and much lower "performance". And that was a fully dedicated gaming PC that was stuck under a desk. This is the Pentium 4 I built myself more than 16 years ago to play mecha and flight simulations, among other things. War Robots wouldn't even be able to run on it, whereas it runs on our phones now. We don't even have to shell out for a separate device! It still runs well as my movie streaming and file server btw, after installing an SSD as the main drive - Sucks power like a horse though 200 watts =( _ If this sounds to you like a lecture, suck it up, or move on. Whiny, overly-critical and negative players will ruin any game exponentially faster than slight errors in correctable game development decisions. Especially since the game developers have expressed interest in listening to our feedback. Even if they incorporate 10% of our feedback into their decision making, that's still better than nothing. Do you think Blizzard listens to the players who whine about things they don't like, and within a matter of months, makes changes to WoW? dizzeeruscal was spot on - you don't have to spend a single cent on this game if you have the maturity and common sense to develop some patience and grind it out. Man you missed the point completely..... you cannot feed lower lvl players to the top players.... or mid lvl players to the the best in the game Players want close to equal lvls to see where their skills are truly at and to farm resources.. This new mm is foobar.. your rant is weird cause it avoids the very obvious issue.. Their new MM is craptastic Yes you don't have to spend money to grind out a top lvl hangar.. See you in 3 to 4 years because without spending gold you ain't getting there and you will quit before you do, and now farming is being eliminated so either you spend or you will always be fodder for those who do As for listening to our feedbakc.. THEY DO NO SUCH THING EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY ARE.. Because I know dozens of players who have suggested much different ideas and none of them are implemented |
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Post by ivx on Jan 23, 2017 15:13:10 GMT -5
I don't care how many orbital periods that you've managed to stay alive. [bull「dookie」 bull「dookie」] ... then I have no use for you, please stop taking up space on our planet. I am a reformed flaming troll. I am a self-declared ?poo place? and a walking smart-assed encyclopedia. I have such a strong confidence factor in my own opinion, it's to the point that I've lost all fear of sharing it with others. So... I'm not assuming anything about anybody's ages, I'm reacting to the way they are carrying themselves, and so far many are acting as if they were spoilt little brats with their huge egos, delusional grandure, and an overwhelming sense of entitlement. Get off my lawn. Wow. Just wow. You're an incredibly, fantastically, amazingly entitled egotistical idiot. And it's not your lawn sweetie. Mods, please by all means, I'm waiting for my ban. I've no wish to be a part of a community in which entitled hormonal idiocy like this troll above gets a tap on the head. Carry on, keyboard warrior, they'll write sagas about you someday. In different circumstances I'd be delighted to make you understand a thing or two but this is Teh Internets, so 'people' like you are allowed. In fact, 「fluffernutter」 this, I'm not even gonna wait for the ban. Not worth my time. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 23, 2017 15:18:02 GMT -5
Yeah, let's let this one come to an end, fellas. Back to your corners, get some water, and come out hugging.
MODERATION: Locking. Might look at how we present official information going forward.
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They need players to start going for 12/12 now and when enough do, it will go to 14/14 or 18/18 to raise the bar and get you people working on it. It will of course be communicated as "Pilots! We've heard the desperate pleas and cries of our poor bored Level 12 players who have been unjustly forgotten for years...", LOL. 
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How entitled are you exactly to look down on others when you did it yourself? And on top of that you justify looking down on them by "skill decay" and "impatient kids!" after having clubbed your way to a good hangar, AND at that to "make up for lost time", of all things? Am I crazy or is all this just a tad bit ironic?