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Post by stygianumbra on Jan 19, 2017 21:07:29 GMT -5
Why the hell can you not walk backwards anymore it just shuffles your bot side to side and makes the stupid sound of something that is broken representing something that use to work.. like the ability to step backwards?
The timing is suspicious too after I mention on this forum now being watched by pix that walking backwards is a good defensive tool, bam it's gone. Not mentioning anything else on this forum. Another reason why I am not renewing my premium and pix can kiss any $ from me goodbye.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 19, 2017 22:17:38 GMT -5
Why the hell can you not walk backwards anymore it just shuffles your bot side to side and makes the stupid sound of something that is broken representing something that use to work.. like the ability to step backwards? The timing is suspicious too after I mention on this forum now being watched by pix that walking backwards is a good defensive tool, bam it's gone. Not mentioning anything else on this forum. Another's reason why I am not renewing my premium and pix can kiss any $ from me goodbye. What bot can't walk backwards except the Rhino on Assualt Mode?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 19, 2017 22:21:57 GMT -5
Why the hell can you not walk backwards anymore it just shuffles your bot side to side and makes the stupid sound of something that is broken representing something that use to work.. like the ability to step backwards? The timing is suspicious too after I mention on this forum now being watched by pix that walking backwards is a good defensive tool, bam it's gone. Not mentioning anything else on this forum. Another reason why I am not renewing my premium and pix can kiss any $ from me goodbye. What are you going on about? I just walked backwards with every bot I had in my hanger... 'twas fairly easy, too. I just dragged my thumb down on the little "joystick" and it walked backwards. Well, the legs turn around, and then face behind the torso... wait... Maybe you were in some kind of cramped area and part of your bot was stuck?
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Post by stygianumbra on Jan 19, 2017 22:51:17 GMT -5
No step backwards when you use the joystick to finess your bot to literally step backwards without twisting the legs, if you practiced you were able to walk back and fourth with your torso twisted to effectively side strafe or back around objects to avoid zeus damage among other things.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Jan 19, 2017 23:02:32 GMT -5
Well, it's either torso rotation to walk backwards, or you have a fixed torso and won't have the ability to turn. Take your pick, buddy
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Post by stygianumbra on Jan 20, 2017 8:39:21 GMT -5
You use to be able to walk directly backwards, skilled TT players did it and I learned from one. No twisting just step forwards and back like if you walked forwards then walked moving your legs in reverse. I have been doing it for well over a year and now the functionality is gone. You have never seen someone back up(dancing) in celebration at the end of a match?
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Post by Deadalready on Jan 20, 2017 9:02:13 GMT -5
If you've ever played games which use the reverse function as you've described (with 360 turrets) they can be extremely difficult to manage. I've not seen any games which managed to iron out the transition between (reversing then moving to the side) there's always an awkward moment where forward/backwards gets confused.
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Post by stygianumbra on Jan 20, 2017 19:20:20 GMT -5
If you've ever played games which use the reverse function as you've described (with 360 turrets) they can be extremely difficult to manage. I've not seen any games which managed to iron out the transition between (reversing then moving to the side) there's always an awkward moment where forward/backwards gets confused. Yes I have and since I saw a stalker doing it vs my pinata destrier over a year ago I have been doing it in War Robots till my first game after the update. I have used that technique all this time and got very good at it, very rarely did I see someone use it effectively. I could run in forward circles then reverse circles, back up straight as far as I want and turn around corners in reverse, wish I had vids of all the times people had trouble hitting me when I did that just like it was hard to hit that stalker over a year ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 19:50:41 GMT -5
I think it could be improved
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 28, 2017 5:06:58 GMT -5
I back the claim and observation of changed maneuverability on Leo, Lance, Griffs,etc. Since the Lunar Event and with update 2.5 I've noticed that Lance mobility has become less desirable when trying to walk clock or counter-clockwise in a small radius circle. I'll be frank... the mobility truly suckass-juice !!.. it's a two-step stutter movement to an illegal action; when I dial a circle with my thumb around the joystick.
No longer is there a fluid movement to negotiate my next direction of defensive measures. I invested heavily in a Lances hanger and It's BS to change this aspect of a bot when it been there from the start. Not to mention speed has dropped from 35m/h to 30, and it's been weakened. That's not the investment I started with 3 months ago.
Watch the following YouTube video of Phoenix piloting a Leo and a Carnage and tell me if your moves like his did last year.
Walking War Robots Test Server Gameplay - When Carnage Attacks !! (By Phoenix)
Pixonics, if it's broken, fix it pls. If it's an attempt to push the Wild Bunch as the Premium bots? It's BS and I'm not investing any longer.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 28, 2017 11:20:43 GMT -5
I agree with the OP. When I've mentioned it to others I was scoffed at and told it's always been that way. But it's not.
I first saw this on one of the test servers some 3 sessions ago, but the effect was so exaggerated it made all the robots, the heavies especially, feel like you were driving something with treads instead of legs.
On the next 2 server sessions, I noticed a similar effect was still in place, but more fine-tuned to the stepping animations and less like a tank. It has a very negligible effect on light robots, but was still noticeable in mediums and definitely there with the heavies. Then I loaded up one of my first Furies. Ugh. Something that large should not have to do a shuffle dance to swing their legs from going forward to going back. With the 2.5 update, these changes are now live, but subtle enough for doubts to arise. I won't be gas-lighted.
The "Jump" ability allows you to counter this effect, as it allows for inertia-less directional changes. Light and Medium bots and analog controls (sorry PC WASD users, not sure) can avoid this effect by making all directional changes into softer curves. The momentum effect is making corner shooting into an OCD PITA. I can only imagine the annoyance factor this is giving dedicated LoS-range snipers, but it has made counter sniping a little easier when you are on the hunt for one. You just can't twitch back behind cover like we used to be able to.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jan 29, 2017 3:09:58 GMT -5
Agreed, walking mechanic has changed. Bots now do a two step shuffle thing when you try to change directions. You get frozen for a second or so for the torso and legs to reorient.
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 29, 2017 14:43:06 GMT -5
So what you gonna do about it??? If you have noiced a change in your bots maneuvering that wasn't there before the update, and it's definitely not an improvement. Put your mouth were your time and/or $$$ is.
Form a constructive and descriptive complaint about the problem you experience and voice it to Pixonic. (I just did) after I remove emotion from my words. This could simply be a side effect to the new update or an intented handicap to even the playing field. Either way, no action will be taken, if action from the consumer isn't attempted. Rant in this forum, voice you complaints there with the developers.
I don't like the movement behavior, so I let them know I want something done to fix it!
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 29, 2017 15:41:33 GMT -5
That's nice. I filled out three surveys and let them know of my feelings that way.
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Post by hulkz1 on Jan 29, 2017 17:09:29 GMT -5
Perhaps an effort at making the missile boats expose themselves an extra coupla seconds? oh wait....they are all smaller bots...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:48:46 GMT -5
Paid more attention to it after reading this. Some bots do it better than others.
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Post by riznfire on Feb 4, 2017 2:19:52 GMT -5
I noticed this immediately and got the same response when asking other players. Low skill players will not notice, but I used dodge magnums by walking backwards and forwards in my Griff, or next to a corner I would walk backwards a couple steps so that I could move forward faster instead of rotating, then moving. It is far worse for the poor Rhino, before the update , I could fire weapons, than rotate and bring my shield up to escape in the opposite direction, now it tap dances instead and you get blown to bits. I was told that pixonic did it to balance heavys , but I don't believe they would intentionally make tap dancing bots, even Adrian has made remarks about how he doesn't like the new movement mechanics.
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Post by stygianumbra on Feb 4, 2017 8:36:11 GMT -5
Pixonic kept telling me in an email chain it wasn't possible to step backwards ever, I pulled up some old video and will be sending it off to them soon showing it happening. It is the reason they will never see any more money from me, and I made sure to let them know removing useful features without warning or reason then lying about it makes me angry.
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Feb 4, 2017 18:46:25 GMT -5
Pixonic kept telling me in an email chain it wasn't possible to step backwards ever, I pulled up some old video and will be sending it off to them soon showing it happening. It is the reason they will never see any more money from me, and I made sure to let them know removing useful features without warning or reason then lying about it makes me angry. I too have ceased to purchase from the game; I went back to review the 2.5 update points. No where does it say they will nerf the Lances and slow them down -5mph... I did send a complaint about the two legged shuffle. I didn't invest in Lances to have them remove its giving abilities. It's basicly stealing $$$
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Post by wolfcrown on Feb 27, 2017 13:05:35 GMT -5
Why the hell can you not walk backwards anymore it just shuffles your bot side to side and makes the stupid sound of something that is broken representing something that use to work.. like the ability to step backwards? The timing is suspicious too after I mention on this forum now being watched by pix that walking backwards is a good defensive tool, bam it's gone. Not mentioning anything else on this forum. Another reason why I am not renewing my premium and pix can kiss any $ from me goodbye. YES a whole forum on this! I'm so disappointed! I really need them to add that back in, I run Carnage all day and it was soooooo crucial in a glass cannon like that, Running out from a corner and dodging missiles while walking backwards was real tricky to master. Really have to do something
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 27, 2017 13:18:52 GMT -5
My Cossack can not only walk backwards, It can jump backwards multiple times. It's a great tactic to keep that left ECU pointed to the right.
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Post by stygianumbra on Feb 27, 2017 17:45:16 GMT -5
Why the hell can you not walk backwards anymore it just shuffles your bot side to side and makes the stupid sound of something that is broken representing something that use to work.. like the ability to step backwards? The timing is suspicious too after I mention on this forum now being watched by pix that walking backwards is a good defensive tool, bam it's gone. Not mentioning anything else on this forum. Another reason why I am not renewing my premium and pix can kiss any $ from me goodbye. YES a whole forum on this! I'm so disappointed! I really need them to add that back in, I run Carnage all day and it was soooooo crucial in a glass cannon like that, Running out from a corner and dodging missiles while walking backwards was real tricky to master. Really have to do something Hell yeah, I use to do incredible things with my maxed trident carnage even up close dodging rhinos. You could walk right on the edge of 600-620 and torture a fury walking backwards so good too.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 3, 2017 14:26:43 GMT -5
Why the hell can you not walk backwards anymore it just shuffles your bot side to side and makes the stupid sound of something that is broken representing something that use to work.. like the ability to step backwards? The timing is suspicious too after I mention on this forum now being watched by pix that walking backwards is a good defensive tool, bam it's gone. Not mentioning anything else on this forum. Another reason why I am not renewing my premium and pix can kiss any $ from me goodbye. What are you going on about? I just walked backwards with every bot I had in my hanger... 'twas fairly easy, too. I just dragged my thumb down on the little "joystick" and it walked backwards. Well, the legs turn around, and then face behind the torso... wait... Maybe you were in some kind of cramped area and part of your bot was stuck? This may be old post but relevant none the less. I'm not a fan at all of my bot having to turn its entire lower torso just to walk backwards or take a few steps left or right. Caught in the line of fire by another bot it'd be helpful in the extreme if we did not have to wait for our bots legs to align towards where we want to go. I can't count the number of times I've lost my bots because of that factor. Would rather have it so that the legs only turn around when full direction and speed is activated at the same time. Slight pressure should just cause our bots to start walking in the needed direction. A true backwards or sideways stepping action. The difference between a live bot and a dead bot can be but a few steps after all.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 3, 2017 14:28:49 GMT -5
What are you going on about? I just walked backwards with every bot I had in my hanger... 'twas fairly easy, too. I just dragged my thumb down on the little "joystick" and it walked backwards. Well, the legs turn around, and then face behind the torso... wait... Maybe you were in some kind of cramped area and part of your bot was stuck? This may be old post but relevant none the less. I'm not a fan at all of my bot having to turn its entire lower torso just to walk backwards or take a few steps left or right. Caught in the line of fire by another bot it'd be helpful in the extreme if we did not have to wait for our bots legs to align towards where we want to go. I can't count the number of times I've lost my bots because of that factor. Would rather have it so that the legs only turn around when full direction and speed is activated at the same time. Slight pressure should just cause our bots to start walking in the needed direction. A true backwards or sideways stepping action. The difference between a live bot and a dead bot can be but a few steps after all. Oh definitely, I never revisited this thread. I see and notice the difference now and hate it as well. Prefer the old mechanic.
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