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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 19, 2017 15:15:14 GMT -5
With the current boost to Ancil, gekkos, and the leos hp I'm thinking my favorite bots gunna make a come back. Will be testing my theory this weekend. What's your thoughts? Now all I need is a really awesome paint job for it! Hint hint pixonic!
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 19, 2017 15:20:03 GMT -5
Ancile/Aphid Leo is going to be strong in gold, I can tell you that now lol.
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 19, 2017 18:58:41 GMT -5
I'm considering an all Leo lineup just to see what happens. 1 with thunder mags, 1 thunder aphids (don't own an ancil), 1 thunder pinata, 1 gekko Zeus, 1 Zeus molots (not sure on last 1 may opt for another knifer with thunder something)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 19:07:03 GMT -5
With that health buff, Leo's are going to be hard to kill. I still don't think it is going to be competitive because of the lack of firepower.
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Post by pyguyofdoom on Jan 19, 2017 19:13:54 GMT -5
leos have plenty of firepower and can be great knife fighters, and even mid and log range fighters.
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Post by whitecrow666 on Jan 19, 2017 19:25:37 GMT -5
I got one big problem this buff my Carnage thunder now seems under powered agasnt Leo's.
A Leo thunder 3 Mags is now issue. I reaLly have wait use speed to get behind it.
There very dangerous take lot lot damage and still deal alot.
Even from behind I was finding they have plenty time turn and shoot back me.
And take me out if not careful or use cover.
Both my thunders only level 9. And Carnage level 10
But I'm wondering to only level one thunder now bring out my Leo instead.
Carnage thunder seems more weak on field now due to this Leo threat.
Carnage all ready has problem shield bots.
And now a nasty leo as well
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 19:26:32 GMT -5
A Magnum Leo is free damage for Galahads
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Grimsunder
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 19, 2017 19:28:37 GMT -5
A Magnum Leo is free damage for Galahads Although Galahad is a free kill for a thunder pinata Leo |
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Post by whitecrow666 on Jan 19, 2017 19:37:03 GMT -5
I loved the Thunder Pinata the most back in day.
Nice damage agasnt a Rhinos
But leveled up the Carnage took thunder off leo for that.
But now with sheild bots leo mag thunders everywere.
I played 10 game tonight I felt carnage thunder is lot weaker now with leo threat .
Before leo were targets .
Seems as Carnage thunder I am spending more time hideing now.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 19, 2017 19:44:38 GMT -5
A Magnum Leo is free damage for Galahads Although Galahad is a free kill for a thunder pinata Leo Ahhhh - no, a Thunder/Piñata Leo is a bag of silver to Plasma Galahad. Even if caught at combat ranges under 100m, the Gal can move off and reengage at >200m easily and still have all weapons. Every decent Galahad pilot here will confirm what I've just said. Surprise happen, but not too much with the pokey Leo. |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 19, 2017 19:49:07 GMT -5
leos have plenty of firepower and can be great knife fighters, and even mid and log range fighters. At best the Leo in TT is a subpar knifer and mediocre in mid-long range support. Even if you put 250K HP on a Leo, it still would be mediocre at best. I play TT and at knifer range there isn't a weapon set that can kill a plasma Galahad if both bots are at full HP. Even a PDB Griffin can trash any knifer Leo. The Aphid nerf won't do much to make the Leo more either. For me, the Leo is just a tidy bag of silver waiting to be picked up - that's how easy it is to kill in TT (usually without incurring too much counter damage either). At mid-long range, there are better weapon platforms that either deal more damage or can get into more firing positions. Basically, whatever you task a Leo to do, there are several Ag/WSP alternatives that will do the job that are as good or (in most cases) better. That being said, the Leo is not a bad platform to use while those "better" bots are being upgraded in the background. For those pilots that were in bronze/silver forever, the Leo and Griffin are perfect platforms to use with those lvl 9-12 weapons. It would only take you 5-7 days to get a hangar of Leos/Griffins up to acceptance HP levels to compete in the new MM. In the current iOS MM, I'd say the Mag/Thunder Leo, CRV/Trident Leo, or Aphid/Thunder Leo are the easiest setups that can be competitive. The rest of the Mags/Tarans can go on Griffins or a Galahad ---- and presto you have a competitive hangar to fight the 12/12 pilots. I know I just trash talked the Leo before, but TT isn't what it used to be - so there is a bright side here. One thing to know is that "top tier" does not exist now on the iOS. It's only two days into the new MM, but all the matches that weren't with squads had at best 4 total pilots that all L11/L12 hangars. You'll not see 4-6 Trident Furies, so these placeholder Leo/Griffin setups are quite acceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 19:50:18 GMT -5
A Magnum Leo is free damage for Galahads Although Galahad is a free kill for a thunder pinata Leo Tell that to all the pinata Leo's I've killed with my Galahad. :-). All you have to do is stay at 280-350m and constantly move. |
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Post by Gdu4ever on Jan 19, 2017 20:29:20 GMT -5
A knifefighting Leo w/o Ancile is just a feeder to Aphids. Higher HP just provide more points for grinding.
I would expect the Ancile/Aphid Leo a viable setup though.
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 19, 2017 20:41:15 GMT -5
Although Galahad is a free kill for a thunder pinata Leo Tell that to all the pinata Leo's I've killed with my Galahad. :-). All you have to do is stay at 280-350m and constantly move. I run 2 Galahads (1 plasma 1 ork/pins) and I can tell u 100% that a thunder pinata Leo is the last thing I want to see coming around a corner in PP or Dead City (well that and a lvl'd thunder carnage). I used my Leo for quite a while I know it's quirks so therfore I'm not insane enough to actually try n fight a Galahad at 300m. Hide let pinata reload hammer, wash rinse repeat. |
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 19, 2017 20:44:03 GMT -5
[quote timestamp="1484872760" source="/post/29828/thread" I play TT and at knifer range there isn't a weapon set that can kill a plasma Galahad if both bots are at full HP. This is incorrect imho I find that ork/pinata Galahad is quite good at killing plasmahad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 20:48:39 GMT -5
Tell that to all the pinata Leo's I've killed with my Galahad. :-). All you have to do is stay at 280-350m and constantly move. I run 2 Galahads (1 plasma 1 ork/pins) and I can tell u 100% that a thunder pinata Leo is the last thing I want to see coming around a corner in PP or Dead City (well that and a lvl'd thunder carnage). I used my Leo for quite a while I know it's quirks so therfore I'm not insane enough to actually try n fight a Galahad at 300m. Hide let pinata reload hammer, wash rinse repeat. I run 2 Galahads, 1 DB Griffin and 1 DB Rhino + a random midranger, and every single time a Leo comes around when I am in a DB setup, a Galahad is what I always want. A Galahad can backpedal Orkans / Pinata rockets at 200m + and Thunder is useless at those ranges. Also, why are you running Orkan Pins? Do Orkan Pinatas |
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 19, 2017 23:01:14 GMT -5
I run 2 Galahads (1 plasma 1 ork/pins) and I can tell u 100% that a thunder pinata Leo is the last thing I want to see coming around a corner in PP or Dead City (well that and a lvl'd thunder carnage). I used my Leo for quite a while I know it's quirks so therfore I'm not insane enough to actually try n fight a Galahad at 300m. Hide let pinata reload hammer, wash rinse repeat. I run 2 Galahads, 1 DB Griffin and 1 DB Rhino + a random midranger, and every single time a Leo comes around when I am in a DB setup, a Galahad is what I always want. A Galahad can backpedal Orkans / Pinata rockets at 200m + and Thunder is useless at those ranges. Also, why are you running Orkan Pins? Do Orkan Pinatas Of course I ment pinata. Who in their right mind would pair crv pins (500m range) with orkans (300m range)? |
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Post by RightOn on Jan 20, 2017 9:36:59 GMT -5
Leo with high health is strong against splash. This is why I always ran Ancile, to further distance myself from deathbuttons. Every bot has its strengths and weaknesses, unless we're talking about Ancelot lmao Not to derail this topic, but when people are so gunho about a plasmahad but then skip the thought of a Trident Fury ruining their day I just wanna  |
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 20, 2017 10:29:45 GMT -5
Leo with high health is strong against splash. This is why I always ran Ancile, to further distance myself from deathbuttons. Every bot has its strengths and weaknesses, unless we're talking about Ancelot lmao Not to derail this topic, but when people are so gunho about a plasmahad but then skip the thought of a Trident Fury ruining their day I just wanna LOL yeah trident fury is a problem on all maps except PP and dead city for Galahads |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 20, 2017 14:33:46 GMT -5
A Magnum Leo is free damage for Galahads like mine! |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 20, 2017 14:36:08 GMT -5
Has anyone tried Ancile/CRV Pin Leo yet?
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 20, 2017 14:37:16 GMT -5
I run 2 Galahads, 1 DB Griffin and 1 DB Rhino + a random midranger, and every single time a Leo comes around when I am in a DB setup, a Galahad is what I always want. A Galahad can backpedal Orkans / Pinata rockets at 200m + and Thunder is useless at those ranges. Also, why are you running Orkan Pins? Do Orkan Pinatas Of course I ment pinata. Who in their right mind would pair crv pins (500m range) with orkans (300m range)? Uhhhhh... noobs? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 19:04:35 GMT -5
I run 2 Galahads, 1 DB Griffin and 1 DB Rhino + a random midranger, and every single time a Leo comes around when I am in a DB setup, a Galahad is what I always want. A Galahad can backpedal Orkans / Pinata rockets at 200m + and Thunder is useless at those ranges. Also, why are you running Orkan Pins? Do Orkan Pinatas Of course I ment pinata. Who in their right mind would pair crv pins (500m range) with orkans (300m range)? You see all sorts of interesting stuff in the previous mid silver |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 25, 2017 12:11:29 GMT -5
Of course I ment pinata. Who in their right mind would pair crv pins (500m range) with orkans (300m range)? You see all sorts of interesting stuff in the previous mid silver Especially the harrowing all-range bot. loses in close range, loses in far range, etc. |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Jan 25, 2017 12:27:34 GMT -5
A Magnum Leo is free damage for Galahads Although Galahad is a free kill for a thunder pinata Leo Only if the Galahad is constrained from maneuvering. That does happen. This isn't a game of pristine 1 on 1 duels. |
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 25, 2017 13:56:50 GMT -5
Although Galahad is a free kill for a thunder pinata Leo Only if the Galahad is constrained from maneuvering. That does happen. This isn't a game of pristine 1 on 1 duels. I completely agree. I've been cornered in my Galahad by bots I should run circles around and gotten killed. It happens lol |
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Post by petevb on Jan 25, 2017 14:33:33 GMT -5
The only Leo setup I consider viable for Top tier is Aphids, either Thunder or Ancile. The Thunder in particular is a good on tight maps, being both strong defensively (like other Aphid bots) bot also able to push many opponents off a defended beacon at close quarters.
Every other Leo combo is bested by a different bot. The Taran Ancilot bests an Ancile Leo Mag, the Thunder Ork Lancelot is far superior to a Pinata Thunder Leo, etc. That's why it's getting buffed of course, but I'm not sure it will be enough.
And to those saying all versions of Leo are meat for Galahad I agree. I always enjoy seeing Leo in red- generally it means not only a nice payday but also a less skilled opponent.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 26, 2017 9:17:32 GMT -5
The only Leo setup I consider viable for Top tier is Aphids, either Thunder or Ancile. The Thunder in particular is a good on tight maps, being both strong defensively (like other Aphid bots) bot also able to push many opponents off a defended beacon at close quarters. Every other Leo combo is bested by a different bot. The Taran Ancilot bests an Ancile Leo Mag, the Thunder Ork Lancelot is far superior to a Pinata Thunder Leo, etc. That's why it's getting buffed of course, but I'm not sure it will be enough. And to those saying all versions of Leo are meat for Galahad I agree. I always enjoy seeing Leo in red- generally it means not only a nice payday but also a less skilled opponent. the thing most don't catch about leo is it the best overall balanced heavy bot and can be used for any circumstance, close, med, and long range. |
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Post by Grimsunder on Jan 26, 2017 13:44:54 GMT -5
The only Leo setup I consider viable for Top tier is Aphids, either Thunder or Ancile. The Thunder in particular is a good on tight maps, being both strong defensively (like other Aphid bots) bot also able to push many opponents off a defended beacon at close quarters. Every other Leo combo is bested by a different bot. The Taran Ancilot bests an Ancile Leo Mag, the Thunder Ork Lancelot is far superior to a Pinata Thunder Leo, etc. That's why it's getting buffed of course, but I'm not sure it will be enough. And to those saying all versions of Leo are meat for Galahad I agree. I always enjoy seeing Leo in red- generally it means not only a nice payday but also a less skilled opponent. the thing most don't catch about leo is it the best overall balanced heavy bot and can be used for any circumstance, close, med, and long range. This is also completely agree with. The Leo is easily my favorite heavy bot. It's a great all around option for those who can't afford a lance. |
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Post by petevb on Jan 26, 2017 13:59:41 GMT -5
the thing most don't catch about leo is it the best overall balanced heavy bot and can be used for any circumstance, close, med, and long range. It's a great all around option for those who can't afford a lance. Bingo. |
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