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Post by captainplasmahad on Sept 13, 2017 22:23:48 GMT -5
I talk a lot about Brit bots, because I have 4 of them. Sadly, only one is useful in diamond 1.
Is it a futile waste of time to petition Pix to make Brit bots not suck again? They are glass when hit with missiles and now their shields are rice paper. There's a lot of gold in them thar bots, and I guess I resent them being tossed aside by Pix.
I'm not saying make them OP in any way, but perhaps, just remove the EXTRA vulnerability to missiles and give their shield some more HP to offset the increased ballistic damage.
Brit bots are super fun to play, I'd like to play them again. I enjoy them way more than some rubbish Leo or griff.
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Post by danny on Sept 13, 2017 22:58:52 GMT -5
Britbots are the only things I bought with real money. Now that I understand Pixonic's modus operandi where they make certain new bots OP, milk them dry, then discard and start the process all over again with a new set of bots, I won't spend another dime on this game again. I shall just wait and watch with smug amusement when the Korean bots are made useless to make way for the Brazilian bots.
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 13, 2017 23:20:35 GMT -5
I talk a lot about Brit bots, because I have 4 of them. Sadly, only one is useful in diamond 1. Is it a futile waste of time to petition Pix to make Brit bots not suck again? They are glass when hit with missiles and now their shields are rice paper. There's a lot of gold in them thar bots, and I guess I resent them being tossed aside by Pix. I'm not saying make them OP in any way, but perhaps, just remove the EXTRA vulnerability to missiles and give their shield some more HP to offset the increased ballistic damage. Brit bots are super fun to play, I'd like to play them again. I enjoy them way more than some rubbish Leo or griff. Sure, giving the shields extra HP = ballistics damage buffed in the future yet again.. LOL after so many times the damage for ballistics have increased is because shielded bots were wrecking everything. Right now is still okay, reasonable for both shielded bots and non-shielded bots. All have an equal chance of wrecking each other! You just gotta move even more carefully and take more cover now with the Brit Bots. I'm still loving my Sgt. Chubbs. He's been very good!
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Sept 13, 2017 23:41:02 GMT -5
Britbots are the only things I bought with real money. Now that I understand Pixonic's modus operandi where they make certain new bots OP, milk them dry, then discard and start the process all over again with a new set of bots, I won't spend another dime on this game again. I shall just wait and watch with smug amusement when the Korean bots are made useless to make way for the Brazilian bots. It's quite simple. Watch what I buy, and watch them get nerfed. Tridents? Nerfed. Brit Bots? Nerfed. (Gary and Gala anyway.) They haven't nerfed Lance yet because I dont have one. 3.1 took care of my RDB. Now I'm working on a Rog. They'll nerf him next. The only thing that I've upgraded and they haven't nerfed [yet] are the Molots and Punishers.
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Post by T34 on Sept 14, 2017 0:30:57 GMT -5
unless you bought it ages ago go to apple and ask for a refund. But you had to use RM to buy them to even stand a chance.no refunds for currency acquired within the game
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Post by NokiaSåmsung on Sept 14, 2017 0:47:27 GMT -5
I look at it differently.
Its just not OP anymore compared to previously with all the new updates, but still playable.
To me every bot melts depending on the opponents set up.
They are still good to take out energy weapons based bots. May not last as long with the guns update but the shield still gives that extra protection. As for rockets enemy bots, surely dont expect to walk away unscathed after a one-to-one showdown. Know yourself, know your enemy ( something like that from Sun Zhu atrs of war lol)
Its "choosing" your opponents in a battle and also situational awareness, including knowing what kind of bots that are closing in on you.
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 0:58:07 GMT -5
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Post by 7iquid on Sept 14, 2017 0:58:07 GMT -5
It's ridiculous to nerf bots that are bought with in game funds or RM.
personally I find that their are way too many snipers in my games (BR or Dom) and the Brit bot shields were really useful as a defence. The trusty Brit bot could then get to the enemy beacon and engage by corner shooting and tactics.
Now the poor old brit bot gets fried by plasma early on, then Gecko laser burns and when it reaches the beacon it gets toasted for the remaining 10 hit points.
How does that make sense? At least the Britbot has tried to win the game and cap a beacon, at least the BB had tried some teamwork and tactics. But Pix seem to penalise them in favour of a Gecko/Treb/Nat that sits at long range and wrecks some of the close range "fun" brawling stuff.
Yeh I know it's a moan but don't even get me started on Spydras..,
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Post by Heishiro on Sept 14, 2017 1:05:02 GMT -5
on top only lance is useful now
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Post by hyderier on Sept 14, 2017 1:05:53 GMT -5
I think Galahad could use one light hardpoint switched to medium. Now it lacks firepower. It's less fast than Rogatka and lacking jump, it can't quite match Rogatka firepower when using the best weps (Orkans or Tarans) especially considering how Rog can utilize its jump and speed to fire bursts, and it has less HP than Rogatka (against splash, which is plentiful enough). It needs something to make it equal, and weapon type switch could well do it.
As for Gary... a bit more HP could make it more viable again.
Or, make shield block half of splash damage. Or, increase damage Raijin style while shield is deployed and speed reduced.
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 1:11:17 GMT -5
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Post by Sybill on Sept 14, 2017 1:11:17 GMT -5
In my medium hangar I have two Plasmahads and they perform well. Yes, a DB can take one out in one salvo, and Bullets force them to seek cover.
But they cap Beacons as fast as a Rhino, laugh at the current Treb and Laser madness and eat everything that has no shield.
As said above, they are normal bots and still very useful once they reach level 9.
This does not mean I agree with Pix behaviour.
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 1:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by imnobody on Sept 14, 2017 1:24:04 GMT -5
I talk a lot about Brit bots, because I have 4 of them. Sadly, only one is useful in diamond 1. Is it a futile waste of time to petition Pix to make Brit bots not suck again? They are glass when hit with missiles and now their shields are rice paper. There's a lot of gold in them thar bots, and I guess I resent them being tossed aside by Pix. I'm not saying make them OP in any way, but perhaps, just remove the EXTRA vulnerability to missiles and give their shield some more HP to offset the increased ballistic damage. Brit bots are super fun to play, I'd like to play them again. I enjoy them way more than some rubbish Leo or griff. what your level brit. I have mine at 7.
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Sept 14, 2017 1:31:29 GMT -5
My Garys (9 and 8) and my Galah (9) are sat gathering dust now ... BUT, I've a shiny new Lance to play with! Yes, only (7) at mo, and so easily fried, but great fun and a super red-bot magnet to draw fire and allow my team mates a chance to capture that next beacon (so long as they're real quick!)
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 2:04:44 GMT -5
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Post by hyderier on Sept 14, 2017 2:04:44 GMT -5
But they cap Beacons as fast as a Rhino Rhino runs 60kph, Gala only 50kph.
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Post by carnage on Sept 14, 2017 2:46:46 GMT -5
I look at it differently. Its just not OP anymore compared to previously with all the new updates, but still playable. To me every bot melts depending on the opponents set up. They are still good to take out energy weapons based bots. May not last as long with the guns update but the shield still gives that extra protection. As for rockets enemy bots, surely dont expect to walk away unscathed after a one-to-one showdown. Know yourself, know your enemy ( something like that from Sun Zhu atrs of war lol) Its "choosing" your opponents in a battle and also situational awareness, including knowing what kind of bots that are closing in on you. I agree. Britbots are still some of the very toughest customers around. Of course missiles hurt, but it's not like they hurt only Britbots. There is a lot of exaggeration in how some people describe the supposed "fall" of Britbots. For all the talk which has been done, Gareth is still by far the toughest light bot in the game, and Galahad is totally on par with the Rogatka which is the other gold medium. Not to mention Lancelot which is still a reference. Seems fairly well balanced to me. I think the problem comes from the fact Britbots were wrecking everything at one point. Of course if people are used to that, it can look disappointing to see those robots having also some weakness. But honestly, if you still look at the big picture, they are still great robots, and some of the most dangerous around.
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 2:59:44 GMT -5
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Sept 14, 2017 2:59:44 GMT -5
Brit bots I like is lancelot. I've bored playing with gareth. For galahad because it's very vulnerable to rockets.
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 5:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by drone42 on Sept 14, 2017 5:02:01 GMT -5
They are more vulnerable than before, yes. But various bots change in terms of their power level.
Take Fujins, for example. Nice firepower, but they were best with Orkans or Tarans, which meant that you were inside plasma range of your enemies, and if you put the shield down to dodge, you got shredded by rockets or kinetic weapons. Then came the accelerated fire buff for punishers and molots, and your shields were drained even faster if you used them. They were pretty underpowered, especially in comparison to physically shielded bots. The continuous rocket reload didn't help either, as it allowed people to keep your shield down/low, rather than you being able to guarantee to have a decent amount of your shield back before they fired again, of giving you time to run away. The continuous reload buff did hurt BritBots (and Rhinos), but it hurt Ancile-shielded bots as well, especially the Fujin because of the way it's Ancile works. Now, with the kinetic weapons having a buff against physical shields, the Fujin has gained a bit more competitiveness, as has the Carnage.
I know the cycle is frustrating for those who have spent money on this game to buy better bots, but it's also frustrating for those who, while not paying money, have had to put a lot more time/effort into getting those bots/weapons. I think the buffs/debuffs are too harsh in general.
One thing though: lots of people complained about the uselessness of kinetic weapons before all these updates happened. Molots and punishers were basically relegated to being used in numbers to try and take down anciles, and sometimes as suppressive fire (although pins/Tulumbas and Trebuchets were just as effective at making people hide well away from you). Nashorns and Kang Daes were generally seen as bad weapons to use: if you were sniping, you had a trebuchet if you were any good. There was generally a better weapon in every scenario. Who needs to take down the anciles slowly when you can shred it with a DB Griffin or ignore it with plasma? Who needs to continually peck at a physical shield when you can hurt the shield and the bot behind it at the same time using rockets? Who needed to snipe with a single solid shot that had nothing special about it, and not much damage per shot, when a single well aimed shot with a Treb Natasha/Fury could shear off chunks of health and send bots running for cover? They had to improve the usability of kinetic weapons, and the best way to do that was to improve its usefulness against the type of bot that was currently the one closest to being overpowered, which happened to be the BritBots. If stalkers were the most powerful/dominant bot at the time that it was decided to improve kinetic weapons, we would probably have seen an update that helped kinetic weapons kill stalkers.
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Brit bots
Sept 14, 2017 7:02:55 GMT -5
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Post by linearblade on Sept 14, 2017 7:02:55 GMT -5
I talk a lot about Brit bots, because I have 4 of them. Sadly, only one is useful in diamond 1. Is it a futile waste of time to petition Pix to make Brit bots not suck again? They are glass when hit with missiles and now their shields are rice paper. There's a lot of gold in them thar bots, and I guess I resent them being tossed aside by Pix. I'm not saying make them OP in any way, but perhaps, just remove the EXTRA vulnerability to missiles and give their shield some more HP to offset the increased ballistic damage. Brit bots are super fun to play, I'd like to play them again. I enjoy them way more than some rubbish Leo or griff. I think 1, it's not fair to complain about Gary. It's a light bot, and it's extremely powerful for what it does/ costs. If anything I think ALL bots should have upgrade options to make them more useful in higher league play. That being said it's very competitive for what what it does. Second, lancelots are still king . Nothing trades effectively with them. Not dash, not other bots, about the best you can do is trade out even money with another equally leveled lance. If he's higher level, he will come out substantially better. So therefore you are really complaining about the Galahad. Which is somewhat fair. And I only say somewhat because the medium bot region of the game is so short. Of the medium bots, there is nothing better. Against dash, it only really fails from orkan fire. I think orkans are more of a problem than other bots. If anything I feel physical shields should stop missile damage partially. If you were expecting your Galahad to be an all around counter from here to eternity, then I would say you are being unrealistic about a 2500 AU mech. There is nothing in it's price range that out performs a Galahad. Griffins are still better armed than dash bots (triple orkans / tarans outstanding), and in terms of sustained damage Griffins still out perform. So this means you are really complaining about heavily armed over levels missile flingers. This is a valid argument, there is definitely a problem with faders and tankers infecting the lower leagues with seal clubbing. But then again, you should look at this as an opportunity to skill up. These guys are not learning anything clubbing you. In fact they are degrading their skill sets. Where you will be improving yours because you are playing with a handicap.
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Post by valoricus on Sept 14, 2017 8:53:47 GMT -5
I think rockets are the real problem especially tulumbas/pin set-ups.
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Post by linearblade on Sept 14, 2017 9:25:06 GMT -5
I think rockets are the real problem especially tulumbas/pin set-ups. While I think they are strong, I think it's more an issue with your expectation that you should be able to sit there and have every fight be a slug fest where you have a super strong shield
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Post by CrownBlack on Sept 14, 2017 11:58:04 GMT -5
One thing I have learned do not sell any bot because odds are Pix will go back and buff them...see the Rog for example.
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