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Post by Domino on Sept 13, 2017 15:08:01 GMT -5
Quick breakdown.
Bullets: Thunder - Heavy Punisher - Light/Med Molot - Light/Med Tempest - Heavy Kang - Heavy Nashhorn - Heavy
Rockets: Orkans - Med Pinata - Light Pin - Light Tulu - Med Noricum - Light Zenits - Heavy Tridents - Heavy
Guided Rockets: Aphids - Light Spiral - Light Hydra - Medium
Energy: Magnum - Light Taran - Medium Gekko - Light Scourge - Medium Zeus - Heavy Treb - Heavy
Without going into too much detail on ranges etc. (we should know all of them off by heart anyways).
I feel there's some spots where more work needs to be done.
1) Rocket: Heavy Point, Short Range, Burst, High Dmg. (Orkan but bigger, longer reload, more dmg, 300m or less)
2) Energy: Heavy Point: Short Range, Burst High Dmg. (Taran but bigger, Longer reload, more dmg, 350m or less) Flamethrower?
*I left out guided because Aphids/Hydras are already OP, hate to see a Heavy weapon similar.
Thoughts?
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Post by stybbe on Sept 13, 2017 15:22:12 GMT -5
Trident fills a gap i think!!??
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Post by Kanshou on Sept 13, 2017 15:24:59 GMT -5
Like a Zenit that shoots all of it's rockets at once and horizontally? Pretty 「deteriorated bum-bum」.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Sept 13, 2017 15:29:37 GMT -5
Ive always thought a ECC Thunder variant in light and Medium would be really cool and would help balance all the ancile action we see. I personally feel buffing/ inventing more ranged weapons is NOT the way to go and feel it makes the game stagnant.
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Post by creepshow on Sept 13, 2017 15:32:01 GMT -5
Medium hardpoint could use a long range option
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Post by stybbe on Sept 13, 2017 15:37:03 GMT -5
You must recognize the feeling of having a fury whit trident in your back while moving in on target, its not much left to sweep up
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Post by nodalwars on Sept 13, 2017 15:47:36 GMT -5
The Scourge adds something to the Medium Spectrum BUT I think a Medium Mount Beam weapon is what we need. Something like the Gekko laser but that can fire constantly without recharging but doing just a teeny bit more damage per shot. That means you can do some damage BUT you have to stay out in the open and on target....
The Zenit speed, time it takes to arrive on target, also needs to be increased some.
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Post by stybbe on Sept 13, 2017 15:52:55 GMT -5
I dont think it should be to many weapons, it could be a game of weapons instead of a game where its your game skill thats make a difference.
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Post by seanh on Sept 13, 2017 15:53:55 GMT -5
Any and all of the weapons I am going to put in that sixth sloth they are going to give me (at enormous cost of course).
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Post by seanh on Sept 13, 2017 15:55:37 GMT -5
And knives, I forgot to say knives. Stick, stick, etc,etc.
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Post by moflete on Sept 13, 2017 15:56:16 GMT -5
Although already mentioned in the thread, Trident (rocket) is missing in the OP.
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Post by moflete on Sept 13, 2017 15:57:36 GMT -5
I think a mid-beam / energy is missing (trebu / gekko for mid point) AND the big fat Punisher since big molot = Tempest, but big Punisher = ¿¿
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Post by vigusfatbelly on Sept 13, 2017 16:18:55 GMT -5
A push blade. A big ol push blade that can be mounted on a bot. It just takes up all available weapons slots. Just having the ability to turn any bot into a dozer bot. Yeah. That's what we need.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Sept 13, 2017 16:19:24 GMT -5
Ive always thought a ECC Thunder variant in light and Medium would be really cool and would help balance all the ancile action we see. I personally feel buffing/ inventing more ranged weapons is NOT the way to go and feel it makes the game stagnant. ECC Thunder.... listen to you, you old coot! Next thing you know it'll be kwk 430mm!!
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Post by rustedscrap on Sept 13, 2017 16:23:22 GMT -5
Traps. I want to be able to put traps down.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Sept 13, 2017 16:32:12 GMT -5
Ive always thought a ECC Thunder variant in light and Medium would be really cool and would help balance all the ancile action we see. I personally feel buffing/ inventing more ranged weapons is NOT the way to go and feel it makes the game stagnant. ECC Thunder.... listen to you, you old coot! Next thing you know it'll be kwk 430mm!! Damn Right im old...I remember when we had to walk up hill both ways to get to center! You kids got it so easy today will all your Plasma Shmasma! Now Get off my Beacon! :-)
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Post by docsane on Sept 13, 2017 16:32:14 GMT -5
How about some sort of area denial weapon, like napalm that burns for a while, or mines that self destruct after, say, 10 seconds? You could have a bot whose job is to steer others into a kill zone. Or else use it to slow down a beacon cap while help moves in.
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Post by Uhnonimis on Sept 13, 2017 17:05:32 GMT -5
Leaving aside new types of weapons, especially ones with effects other than damage (I put out a fairly detailed post on that a while back, and could dig up if there is interest), there are several which would help "fill in the grid", many I think have already been mentioned:
1. Heavy physical shield (big brother to the ecu-and how about a meduim shield that's better than a light shield).
2. Medium laser (somewhere between gekko and treb).
3. Heavy punisher (analogous to the tempest, perhaps called a typhoon).
4. Medium and light thunders.
5. Short and medium range analogs to the nashorn/kang dae.
6. Heavy hydra, perhaps call it a Tiamat.
7. Medium and heavy aphids.
8. Heavy analogs of the tulumbas and orkan.
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Post by docsane on Sept 13, 2017 18:00:27 GMT -5
6. Heavy hydra, perhaps call it a Tiamat. Man, do we really need a heavy version of the Hydra? It'd be like an ICBM that can steer around a corner.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 13, 2017 18:07:24 GMT -5
Hmmmmm I think KNIFETHROWER should be added game that only makes damage in 100 meters but makes giant damage like thunder it should be in medium and it should have long reload time with this knife fights will be actual knife fights
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Sept 13, 2017 18:17:08 GMT -5
ECC Thunder.... listen to you, you old coot! Next thing you know it'll be kwk 430mm!! Damn Right im old...I remember when we had to walk up hill both ways to get to center! You kids got it so easy today will all your Plasma Shmasma! Now Get off my Beacon! :-) I lol'd at that. How about a heavy guided missle called "The Nuke". It can take level 9 or 10 Griffs health down about halfway. 350m range, fires 1 missle every 30s. ..lol idk. I'm just kidding. I despise homing missles. I guess, like someone else said, a heavy rocket weapon similar to an Orkan that could be run on a Leo w/pinatas would be sweet. Or I gues a short range, heavy plasma that has a similar rate of fire and damage as a Thunder. Also, Leaving aside new types of weapons, especially ones with effects other than damage (I put out a fairly detailed post on that a while back, and could dig up if there is interest), there are several which would help "fill in the grid", many I think have already been mentioned: 1. Heavy physical shield (big brother to the ecu-and how about a meduim shield that's better than a light shield). 2. Medium laser (somewhere between gekko and treb). 3. Heavy punisher (analogous to the tempest, perhaps called a typhoon). 4. Medium and light thunders. 5. Short and medium range analogs to the nashorn/kang dae. 6. Heavy hydra, perhaps call it a Tiamat. 7. Medium and heavy aphids. 8. Heavy analogs of the tulumbas and orkan. Wanted to say that #s 6&7 would be a nightmare but #2 would be the 8th level of hell and potentially ruin the game. It would certainly put Domination out of its misery. The last thing the game needs is Griffins having the ability to go full plasma sniper. (2nd to last thing it needs is more homing missles).
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Post by Kanshou on Sept 13, 2017 18:29:32 GMT -5
There are multiple posts suggesting a medium Gekko weapon. And I thought people didn't like Gekkos.
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Post by Uhnonimis on Sept 13, 2017 19:33:40 GMT -5
6. Heavy hydra, perhaps call it a Tiamat. Man, do we really need a heavy version of the Hydra? It'd be like an ICBM that can steer around a corner. *Need?* No, but we don't *need* any more weapons. Besides, it would be funny, like bullets in Bugs Bunny cartoons.
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Post by CPDDPC on Sept 13, 2017 20:10:50 GMT -5
I would love to see the counter part of all weapons, like the heavy punisher, or the heavy taran, medium gekko ...
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Sept 13, 2017 22:04:13 GMT -5
Ever since the release of Tempest (I still think that it should be called a Molot Mk III), I've thought that there should be a Punisher equivalent. The Punisher Mk II has two barrels. The heavy hardpoint version should either have four barrels (call it an Mk IV) or, like the Tempest, have two larger Gatling Gun type cylinders.
I'd also like to see a long range medium hardpoint weapon. Maybe it could resemble a mini Nashorn, but it couldn't be too OP (maybe half the HP of a Nashorn?) and have enough HP to chase snipers off their perch. Now if the sniper were silly enough to allow itself to be hit, say 10 or 12 times by a mini Nash? That might be enough to destroy a Bot.
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 13, 2017 22:49:45 GMT -5
Quick breakdown. Bullets: Thunder - Heavy Punisher - Light/Med Molot - Light/Med Tempest - Heavy Kang - Heavy Nashhorn - Heavy Rockets: Orkans - Med Pinata - Light Pin - Light Tulu - Med Noricum - Light Zenits - Heavy Guided Rockets: Aphids - Light Spiral - Light Hydra - Medium Energy: Magnum - Light Taran - Medium Gekko - Light Scourge - Medium Zeus - Heavy Treb - Heavy Without going into too much detail on ranges etc. (we should know all of them off by heart anyways). I feel there's some spots where more work needs to be done. 1) Rocket: Heavy Point, Short Range, Burst, High Dmg. (Orkan but bigger, longer reload, more dmg, 300m or less) 2) Energy: Heavy Point: Short Range, Burst High Dmg. (Taran but bigger, Longer reload, more dmg, 350m or less) Flamethrower? *I left out guided because Aphids/Hydras are already OP, hate to see a Heavy weapon similar. Thoughts? Poor Tridents.... Completely lost and forgotten... a moment of silence for that 「deteriorated bum-bum」 600m splash pounder... ANYHOOS, your idea of having a heavy rocket launcher doesn't seem viable, rockets are small, they should have a heavy "pin missile" instead. ENERGY WEAPON HAHAHAHAHA!! Look at my signature!! A 「deteriorated bum-bum」 Taran-XL would be awesome! Imagine the firing sound! Much deeper and longer!!
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Post by merenlongbow on Sept 13, 2017 23:14:44 GMT -5
How about they just make the new stuff available with existing currencies rather than this bull crap roulette garbage?
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 13, 2017 23:21:55 GMT -5
How about they just make the new stuff available with existing currencies rather than this bull crap roulette garbage? In time I'm sure they will be that goes the same as the Wild West Bots. But by that time, new stuff would have came out... Lol it's their way of generating more revenue on top of app downloads!
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Sept 13, 2017 23:27:55 GMT -5
How about they just make the new stuff available with existing currencies rather than this bull crap roulette garbage? Poor naive newbie. Doesn't understand the money grab that's going on. You must understand, young padawan, that common sense is only an illusion. You must rid yourself of these fantasies. Only then, will you find true peace and tranquility.
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 13, 2017 23:30:58 GMT -5
How about they just make the new stuff available with existing currencies rather than this bull crap roulette garbage? Poor naive newbie. Doesn't understand the money grab that's going on. You must understand, young padawan, that common sense is only an illusion. You must rid yourself if these fantasies. Only then, will you find true peace and tranquility. Master, you forgot to tell your young padawan... May the Force be with you...
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