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Post by iambasilus on Sept 11, 2017 19:42:49 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
I'm just wondering, I have a few Aphids but I'm confused on what set - up to use for BR. Which one is your favorite and the most effective in BR?
Thanks!
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Post by creepshow on Sept 11, 2017 19:51:43 GMT -5
Aphid Jesse. Max speed, max firepower.
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Post by water on Sept 11, 2017 19:57:19 GMT -5
Hi Guys, I'm just wondering, I have a few Aphids but I'm confused on what set - up to use for BR. Which one is your favorite and the most effective in BR? Thanks! In my opinion, the 4 aphid patton, as well as the ancile aphid leo are both poor choices for BR. However, I have tried the thunder aphid leo on BR with success. The orkan aphid griffin, AKA the stuka griffin, is a very good bot. I would even go to say that I prefer it over a DB build. The aphid taran griffin is not a bad build as well, but the stuka seems to get the job done better based on experience. The aphid stalker is not a very good beacon capper for BR. The rogatka, rhino and the dash bots do the task better. If you really would like to use a stalker, try running it with pinatas.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 19:57:32 GMT -5
Aphid Stalker. All of the other bots above are way too defensive. They're not going to help out with beacons and will spend most of the time behind walls lobbing Aphids. At least with a Stalker, you can nab a few unguarded beacons before getting destroyed.
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Post by cero39 on Sept 11, 2017 20:00:36 GMT -5
Where's the Aphid Gepard???
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Post by water on Sept 11, 2017 20:03:26 GMT -5
Where's the Aphid Gepard??? Not on the list, as it's a stalker without stealth, only gaining 1/3 of firepower
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Post by cero39 on Sept 11, 2017 20:10:36 GMT -5
Where's the Aphid Gepard??? Not on the list, as it's a stalker without stealth, only gaining 1/3 of firepower Don't know about you guys but stealth makes me brazen and dumb. My survivability in a stalker is much less than Gepard so I'll take that 50% firepower increase and dish it out for longer
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Post by water on Sept 11, 2017 20:15:40 GMT -5
Not on the list, as it's a stalker without stealth, only gaining 1/3 of firepower Don't know about you guys but stealth makes me brazen and dumb. My survivability in a stalker is much less than Gepard so I'll take that 50% firepower increase and dish it out for longer When you're running an aphid stalker, the point of the stealth is that if an enemy gets near enough to fire at you, you are able to use it and they cannot lock onto you. While the 1/3 extra firepower with the gepard must be nice, it's low health pool and lack of ability means that if it gets targeted, it is most likely toast.
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Post by rustedscrap on Sept 11, 2017 20:16:12 GMT -5
Griffin. Hands down for beacon rush. Orkans are a must. Being able to jump away is also important.
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Post by cero39 on Sept 11, 2017 20:21:20 GMT -5
Don't know about you guys but stealth makes me brazen and dumb. My survivability in a stalker is much less than Gepard so I'll take that 50% firepower increase and dish it out for longer When you're running an aphid stalker, the point of the stealth is that if an enemy gets near enough to fire at you, you are able to use it and they cannot lock onto you. While the 1/3 extra firepower with the gepard must be nice, it's low health pool and lack of ability means that if it gets targeted, it is most likely toast. Bah I'll give it another chance. It just feels flimsy and weak since I'm used to the Gep. Btw, not to sound like a 「wee-wee」 but 50% of 2 is 1 so there is a 50% damage increase from Stalker to Gepard but 33% decrease from Gepard to Stalker.
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Post by _psychø on Sept 11, 2017 20:37:09 GMT -5
Voted for Orkan/Aphid Griffin, but you can also put the same setup on a rhino, you may also want to try 3 aphids on a leo with a thunder.
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Post by iambasilus on Sept 11, 2017 20:58:24 GMT -5
Thanks guys, though I really like the hide-and-seek ( salvo-hide-repeat ) method of playing with Aphids.
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 12, 2017 2:15:03 GMT -5
Definitely Orphid Griff, Orkans lay continuous damage while your aphids pack a punch, and almost instantly full potential damage!!
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Post by nosinov on Sept 12, 2017 2:19:50 GMT -5
I vote Jessy it's fast and has the most firepower.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Sept 12, 2017 3:29:33 GMT -5
Aphid orkan griffin for brawling.
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Post by drone42 on Sept 12, 2017 4:40:17 GMT -5
I need to try out the Aphid/Orkan Griffin now that I've got 2 Orkans. Here's what I have tried though:
- Aphid Patton. Yes, you get the most aphids, so you can do a lot of damage in one shot, from behind cover. But it goes downhill after that. Speed isn't great, so you're slow to make it towards new fights, or to capture a beacon after taking out the Reds around it. HP isn't great, which means you cannot afford to slowly wade towards mid/long range bots until you get into range, as you sometimes can with a Leo/Natasha/Griffin. Also, if a bot jumps over a wall or rushes/dashes around a corner to get to you, you are screwed: not fast enough to retreat, and not enough HP to stand there and trade blows. I like this bot in general, but I've had very little success with it on Beacon Rush.
- Thunder/Aphid Leo. The 3 aphids still gives you a respectable salvo from behind cover. The Thunder allows you to finish off crippled bots, or push your way onto a beacon. There's not many things in the game that choose to get closer to a Thunder than they have to. You aren't quick, but your high HP helps with pushing into beacons, holding beacons, or just staying alive when that brawler drops in behind you as you are liberating a beacon.
- Aphid/Taran Griffin. Nice bot, with some good hit-and-run capabilities, but not quite as powerful as you might think. Aphids want to be aiming for almost anything without an ancile (so long as you can get an angle to dodge a physical shield). Tarans are specialised to wreck ancile-shielded bots. So there's a bit of a conflict in target priority. Also, the Taran takes longer to empty its clip, which isn't great for an ambush or "surprise" bot. The longer you spend firing, the more time the enemy has to damage you. That's why I prefer my DB griff for ambushing most enemies. Also, with the prevalence of Raijins and Lancelots in beacon rush, I would rather be ambushing with rockets. (If it's an Ancilot, I would run away even if I'm in a plasma griffin.) It's good, but the Aphid/Orkan Griffin is probably better.
- Aphid Stalker. The stealth is what makes this popular. Otherwise, it has less firepower, and if I remember correctly, it has less HP. 2 Aphids, with no other weapons, just isn't enough to cause a lot of damage in my opinion. Stealth can be good for survival, but most players know now to fire until you activate stealth, then wait til it wears off and start shooting again then. Also, in closed maps, players can target walls near to you to kill you with the splash.
- Aphid Gepard. Often ignored due to lack of stealth, but it's got decent firepower and good speed. Nice as an initial beacon capper. The HP still isn't great, but you can escape sometimes due to the speed.
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Post by kukurukukuk on Sept 12, 2017 4:48:49 GMT -5
Not on the list, as it's a stalker without stealth, only gaining 1/3 of firepower Don't know about you guys but stealth makes me brazen and dumb. My survivability in a stalker is much less than Gepard so I'll take that 50% firepower increase and dish it out for longer My experience is the same, but I would argue that it is likely my own fault rather than the bot's in question. A Stalker can last a really long time in the hands of a pilot who knows what he's doing - my Stalker skills are very limited. Stealth is a unique ability and combined with aphids, you can be -under the right circumstances- practically invincible.
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