Fujin vs Raijin

I enjoy the raijin. I was actually in adrians last vidcast, and i had to eject out to get a score. b/c he wrecked everything so fast.

which brings me to the point. raijin is much improved, but its not very good still when thing just run away from you. its a great bot to drop in beacon rush, but you need to eject it as soon as the battle moves away from you.

the fujin also looked promising when adrian ran it, b/c he rigged it up with scourge...since I suspect there will be the almighty nerf bat coming to the kbots, fujin might get some serious scourge play with its 3 gun slots.

I have been experimenting a LOT with Raijin since the buff. Whilst I would consider Zeus or Trident Raijin for Domination, the only Raijin setup I would use in BR is Thunder. I save it to use at the precise moment that two or 3 enemy bots are looking to take back centre. I wait until they are as close as possible, spawn the Raijin in Bastion mode and take out as much as I can. You often still die, but usually you take out some of the enemy's best bots and it's easier to take centre back. However, if you miss this opportunity and you're stuck with it as your last bot against 2 RDBs.... we'll, you can guess what happens....

But definitely Raijin over Fujin for BR, purely for the double Thunder setup.

Both are very good robots, underrated, but very good. If you're looking for something in a BR, I would suggest raisin as it is very sturdy, but I would suggest Fujin in almost every other situation. If you want Raijin, put 2 Thunders, or 1 ankle, 1 thunder. If Fujin, Good setups range from 3x Punishers, 3 Molots, 3 Hydra, 3 Tarans, 3 Orkans, 2 Orakns+1 Taran, 1 Orkan+ 2 Tarans.

Thunder Raijins are punching everybody real hard at beacon drops. But still a goner once rockets come flying. 

Taran/Orkan/Punisher Fujins have a huge amount of firepower, but still very fragile. 

If you're talking about WSP bots here, I'd go with Fujin, I favour firepower. But might as well get a Carnage! More mobile, still rocks hard with Thunders or Zeus!

The idea of a "beacon defender" is overrated. If you see a stationary bot, just have a look and decide if you like the matchup. If you don't, then there are plenty of other beacons around.

Yeah, it rocks to drop a Thunder bot in beacon rush if the reds are at point blank range, but a Thunder Carnage is better suited for that because it can get within 100m where Thunders are dominant. I found that even if the reds are about to turn the beacon I often spawn 150-200m away from the reds, so a Raijin always has to move closer, and can't use its shield, while the Carnage shield is automatic. And of course the shield of the Carnage will regenerate. So if you're really looking for a good BR robot, and don't have a Thunder Carnage yet, give it a shot. An Orkan Rhino is also a good alternative, as it allows you to charge an enemy robot (especially Thunder/Punisher/Molot builds) and get within 300m for your rockets.

But back to the question. Both are very situational: In some situations they are great, in other situations too easy to counter IMO. Thunder Raijin, just drop back to 300m and pound it if you have rockets, or to 350m if you have Tarans. Even the mighty Raijin shield will eventually break, and Thunders don't do much from 350m, but usually there are just enough rockets around. Also your allies will always be obstructed by your long legs - I really hate to have a Raijin on my side on maps like Shenzen or Dead City.

Fujin Ancile has been buffed a lot, but the Fujin itself is too squishy and very vulnerable to Plasma or snipers. If you encounter a Fujin and you have Rockets, just ignore him and go for another beacon. The big problem is the missing mobility, in higher leagues enemies are not stupid enough to give you a clear shot if you're stationary, and as soon as you drop the shield you'll be bombarded with Orkans or Tulus.

Both are great (assuming Thunders/Orkans) if you can drop on top of your enemies, especially the Fujin with its mighty shield and lots of firepower.
Both have very long upgrade times, they take over 13 days just to get to level 10 and 27 days to level 12. On the plus side, they're cheap to upgrade - 11 million for level 10. If your silver reserves are running low, Carnage, Fujin and Raijin are the ones to upgrade (~0.9 million a day until level 10, 2.3 million for level 11/12).

I think both are nice change-of-pace robots. I run them occasionally in different configurations just for fun, but they're not good enough to be part of my regular hangar.

IMO the best setup for Fujin is 3x Tulumbus or Hydra. They can both go toe to toe with their Griffin equivalents (RDB and Spydra) and come out on top. However, as a Fujin you will learn to attract every Treb, Zeus and Gekko on the map, so Domination mode can be very frustrating. Furthermore the jump of the Griffin is more useful in BR than Fujin's Sentry mode. They can work in the right circumstances, but there are reasons why you don't see to many of them. As long as you know this going in, feel free to give it a shot and see if it suits you.

The Ecu shield can be equipped by Heachi. Fujin will not be looking to be installed.
Raijin's Buff at the time of Bastion
Is not that heavy weapons or medium weapons set on the top

Just buy the Fujin. All you need to understand is that is it more adorbs than the Raijin.

ALL YOU NEED IS THE CUTE TO WIN.

Raijin.

He has incredible HP and is able to survive almost everything. You sit on the beacon, and the only way for your enemies to capture this beacon is to kill you. It will take time, and there is huge probability that someone will help you.
There are two setups you should consider - 2xThunder and Ancile/Thunder. The idea is, that you are sitting in covered place near beacon - so you forcing your opponent to knife fighting. And you win, because you are able to survive insane amount of damage, and your Thunders will destroy your opponent due to knifefight.
With 2xThunder, you have great firepower, with 30% bonus to each Thunder during Bastion. You are however vulnerable to rockets.
Thunder/Ancile Raijin is a god, able to survive every kind of attack. I wrote more about this setup here:
war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/170210/thread

Why not Fujin? Mainly because his low HP. He will have problem with any plasma setup, and campers with Gekko/Trebuchet are very dangerous here. If you want to defend beacons in BR, Raijin is the way.