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Post by Strayed on Jan 8, 2017 22:17:36 GMT -5
1. Unlike the gepard, the galahad has a flaw, the galahad is very weak against midrange. Expect to be destroyed by trident furies if you pilot more than three.
2. The gepard is not viable in the higher tiers unless you put aphids on it, even then, most people recommend aphid pattons or thunder aphids leos over the aphid gepard.
I would personally recommend starting off with getting 4 orkans and 3 to 4 tarans. From there, work towards two db griffs, one pdb rhino, one plasma galahad and an rdb griffin. If you find yourself needing more midrange, get a trident fury next(replace rdb griff). If you need more versatility and speed, get another plasma galahad(replace pdb rhino). If you need more knife fighting power, get a thunder orkan lancelot next(replace db griff).
I would not recommend using more than one or two rhinos unless you are very good with it.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 8, 2017 22:38:54 GMT -5
From there, work towards two db rhinos, one pdb rhino yup that's strayed alright XD.
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Post by BLYTHE on Jan 8, 2017 22:45:25 GMT -5
Selling your Gep for Ag? That's some extreme Gepard Guilt you got!
I agree with Strayed about building up your weps first. Right now your non-gep hangar's pretty weak and those bots aren't going to shine till you get them to lvl 7 or getting your weapon levels much higher.
Since you've got quite a bit of silver, why not purchase a couple Griffs? Make one of them mid-range.
Keep 2 of your Geps and lvl them up to 3, build the rest (rhino, grifs, galahad) and you'll have a pretty decent starter-silver hangar.
Once you get into Gold tier, you can transition all but the Gep. But I suppose you can still use them in silver for farming (or clubbing; assuming there's a distinction).
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Post by Strayed on Jan 8, 2017 22:54:25 GMT -5
From there, work towards two db rhinos, one pdb rhino yup that's strayed alright XD. Whoops, meant two db griffs. Thanks for the catch.
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 8, 2017 23:16:14 GMT -5
With silver tier, you will run into 4/12 geps so keeping mag and aphid geps in your line up are useful....get your weps up to l12 as you can use the mags and aphids in gold. You just won't find a ton of use for more than 1 gep (Aphid) in low gold and zero higher than that. Cheers!
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Jan 9, 2017 0:13:51 GMT -5
1. Unlike the gepard, the galahad has a flaw, the galahad is very weak against midrange. Expect to be destroyed by trident furies if you pilot more than three. 2. The gepard is not viable in the higher tiers unless you put aphids on it, even then, most people recommend aphid pattons or thunder aphids leos over the aphid gepard. I would personally recommend starting off with getting 4 orkans and 3 to 4 tarans. From there, work towards two db griffs, one pdb rhino, one plasma galahad and an rdb griffin. If you find yourself needing more midrange, get a trident fury next(replace rdb griff). If you need more versatility and speed, get another plasma galahad(replace pdb rhino). If you need more knife fighting power, get a thunder orkan lancelot next(replace db griff). I would not recommend using more than one or two rhinos unless you are very good with it. Lol come to think of it, when it comes to Tridents at midrange, unless you're inside of an energy shield and out of range, your bot will get damaged. In fact my clan and I have taken out clubbers with with trident carnies and furies if that serves as proof. Answering Q1: Gala has a shield sure. But that only protects front blasting plasma shots. That shield will break after sustaining an amount of damage. Rockets and missiles (minus hydra and spiral) have splash and will go through the shield. Not to mention, the way Thunders spread as they increase in range, will still damage your bot. Answering Q2: At 58kph and I think 85k hp, in higher tiers, where shield bots dominate, you're likely to get destroyed easily, sometimes even by a stalker (if the pilot is skilled enough). Gepards are without shields or special abilities, in higher tier's it's about as useful as running around with a big "kick me" sign
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Post by BLYTHE on Jan 9, 2017 1:13:18 GMT -5
Answering Q2: At 58kph and I think 85k hp, in higher tiers, where shield bots dominate, you're likely to get destroyed easily, sometimes even by a stalker (if the pilot is skilled enough). Gepards are without shields or special abilities, in higher tier's it's about as useful as running around with a big "kick me" sign More like "Melt Me" sign since most gold tier players remember how they used to be clubbed by geps. So sauntering in the middle of Shenzen will get you killed in 3 seconds. Heck, I'd abandon capping a beacon if I saw a Gep clubber in gold, and I'm one of the nicer ones...
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Post by 《₩hirl》 on Jan 9, 2017 6:06:05 GMT -5
Specific questions: 1. I've seen the poll where you guys voted what's the best bot in a competitive tier. Galahad came on top. Then on another thread, someone was hesitant to use 3 galahads in his/her hangar. Then someone replied his max limit for galahad in a hangar is 3. I'm like "if Galahad is the best bot, wouldn't it be great to have a hangar full of it?" Maybe its my sealclubber instinct. If someone can explain why its not a good idea to have 5 of it, thank you very much! 2. Is gepard any good in silver / gold tiers? If they're useless in higher tiers, I'm going cold turkey and sell these abominable bots for Ag. Cheers! Question 1. Unlike the lower tiers where you can fulfil most roles with one bot (which the Gepard excels at) once you start climbing, you realise that is not the case. Yes there are occasional moments where one bot fits all, and the Galahad comes close, but it is certainly not tue be all end all. You will notice a vague sensation of a 'paper scissors rock' effect beginning somewhere in silver, and moreso higher up. While many consider the Galahad to be the most versatile bot, it is not without its weaknesses. Other bots the Galahad will commonly encounter will be similar in their high resistance to x, but vulnerable to y aspect. So while some pilots run 1-2 chassis hangars, for what I'd assume squad play factors or preference, the more common approach would be a few knifers, a capper and a support (sniper or midrange, or both) because a match can change at any given moment. So you will need/may want other bots that are more task specific Question 2. Kinda, sorta, not really. Yes they're still useable, albeit plain and a bit squishy. Still run as many as you can while you're working your new hangar, they will help, but progressing through Silver is where their shine, begins to fade. You will be wowed by what certain pilots can do with their preferred setup, and you with your own. Don't ditch them (all) just yet. So start by throwing whatever you have on that Galahad and Rhino (get them to 6 at least) and play around from there. Definately get a Griffon or two, and whatever other heavy or wsp bot you have kicking around that will carry the weapons you own. Good luck, welcome to the fun side!
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Post by lephturn on Jan 9, 2017 9:31:09 GMT -5
Interesting - I have a lot of work to do leveling weapons first, but this is also where I'm headed.
At what tier or bot levels did you guys drop your Cossack, because I LOVE my Taran Cossack.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Jan 9, 2017 9:42:39 GMT -5
Keep the Gepards. You can always fall back on them for raising gold.... Your higher tier play will come with a learning curve.
Save up for Orkans and Tarans, 4 of each that you'll level up is a good baseline. Plus mags, pinatas and now aphids to match.
Add two Griffins. They're cheap, incredibly versatile, and you'll use them forever because they're first line bots all the way to Top.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jan 9, 2017 11:44:13 GMT -5
Interesting - I have a lot of work to do leveling weapons first, but this is also where I'm headed. At what tier or bot levels did you guys drop your Cossack, because I LOVE my Taran Cossack. I still love my Cossack at mid silver. I run it as 6/8 taran or Ork , great capper
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Jan 9, 2017 13:17:56 GMT -5
Interesting - I have a lot of work to do leveling weapons first, but this is also where I'm headed. At what tier or bot levels did you guys drop your Cossack, because I LOVE my Taran Cossack. I love mine as well. I used it only in specific circumstances in mid-Silver and dropped it altogether in High. Note, although I love how fun it is, I'm not particularly good with it.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 9, 2017 13:38:22 GMT -5
Once you get to HS, BTW, the Stalker and the Gary's penalties seem to be moot... so they become options to go along with the cossack.
I have to say, the only time a cossack has given me trouble in HS/LG was recently, when an ECU Cossack invaded my poor Galahad's personal space, triggering his compulsive destruction disorder, and just kept trying to push into me... I guess to mess up my targeting of the nearby Leo that really was a threat? IDK, have never dealt with that before. Anyway, I killed the Leo that was threatening the Beacon, while the Cossack was all up on me, then just dropped shield and maneuvered so that my Ork, shooting on auto reload, and aphids could hit him, and shot him. Was weird. He could have just waited for me to move on then taken the beacon... *Shrugs*
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 9, 2017 13:39:51 GMT -5
I keep telling myself to buy a Galahad (seen players with three in one hangar) but whenever I go up against one I find them easy to take out...
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 9, 2017 13:47:51 GMT -5
I keep telling myself to buy a Galahad (seen players with three in one hangar) but whenever I go up against one I find them easy to take out... If that is the case, then you will prolly excel in one. Even a beginner can do well in them. A good, experienced player, can get the most out of the speed, shield, and the corner shooting ability... give it a shot! You might just love it!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 9, 2017 13:52:53 GMT -5
Personally, I have the best games with the Plasmahad and the Orkaphahad variants. But the Taraphahad and the Splashahad are both good, too. Plasmahad is the baseline for all my Galahad variants though, it's a mean mammajamma.
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Post by zman on Jan 9, 2017 15:33:38 GMT -5
Want to get over your Sealclubbing guilt, run Weapon lvl=Bot lvl or W+1=B and start leveling those Geps up towards Gold. In Trash Gold Geps are still viable, in High Gold reaching towards Top Tier they are really only viable with Aphids, and I was running one with a decent amount of success. Just step out of the tiers where everyone is a seal and come play with us up in gold where most people are carrying clubs. I really wish they'd reduce the low level Gep Speed and up their high end speed, it would really fix the Gep seal clubbing.
Gallahads are great, possible a touch too good thanks to their speed, but I digress. They are penalized by the MM at lower tiers, and are a very common bot up in High Gold. But, they aren't without their weaknesses, and that is rocket weaponry, especially coming from Midrange, and when you are up in Gold expect to see a couple of Trident Furies in most matchest. I have a Gallahad and war running it Aphid/Taran and did well with it, but swapped it out again for my Rogata(will be buffed very shortly) with Tulumbas(May get reload fire soon) to be a bit quicker grabbing 1-2 beacons and to give me some mid range harassment to counter Galahads.
Sure, the Galahad is great, but it is also limited in some ways as far as effective ranges are concerned. It is weak to rockets to anything that looks like a Deathbutton can ambush you. I can defniitely see hangers where I would run a pair of them, but running all Galahads would be very limiting.
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