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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 8, 2017 15:34:22 GMT -5
My current hanger below: Attachment Deleted+ lvl 7 Carnage w lvl 8 Tridents & Tunders 5800 Au & 16k WS banked Not interested in Fury or Spider bots. The Aphid army is seen in more & more battles and naturally drawn to Chubbs. Is Lancelot still meta in TT? What is next best purchase? Thoughts and advice please. |
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Flukey*Lukey
Destrier
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Favorite robot: Galahad
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Post by Flukey*Lukey on Jan 8, 2017 15:40:10 GMT -5
Lances get destroyed by aphids if used right so not sure about if it is in the meta. I would say though, unless they get needed unfortunately aphids will be a good choice. You probably want a fury for clan play however, other than that I can't help much
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 15:42:02 GMT -5
What is your play style?
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Thunder Carnage
GI. Patton
Out of the shadows, a horror emerged...
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Jan 8, 2017 15:54:00 GMT -5
You rhangar already has its knife fighting aspect, but it needs a better mid range option. Buy a Fury, and put 3 tridents on it. Longer range than your current RDB griffin, and deals a LOT of damage, even to shielded bots.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 8, 2017 16:43:59 GMT -5
Thanks for input!
Moody, my style:
I like to hunt, get up close & personal then walk over my dead prey!
Black Dragon,
I really would like to resist a Fury, (so frustrating to move sooo slooowww) have the Carnage with Tridents for range. I think I would look at Aphid Patton first.
I think I am asking, with the increase in Aphids use, at the Top Tier:
* Are their a lot of Aphid Bots in TT?
* If their are, does the current TT meta still include alot of Lancelots?
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 8, 2017 16:44:28 GMT -5
You have great stats for your tier and good bots/setups that are good all the way to top tier.
You can stay where you are and just farm silver ---- as it will take 300-450M silver just to get from level 11 to level 12. So if you don't near that Ag amount, you'll be scrapping the bottom every time you need to do a high level upgrade.
Now back to the Lancelot. You have all power runners in your hangar and you are doing great with your win percentage and avg damage. I don't believe that the Lancelot will add more to your stats, as the knifer it replaces it already doing a good job by the bpnumbers you are posting --- so I think you can hold off on getting that Lance.
Another reason to hold off in the Lance is that the Wild West bots are coming out and I can see the Doc being a giant killer --- especially against Lancelots, Leos, Boas, and Rhinos (slow bots that will get hammered by the mobile and high firepower Doc). Waiting for these new bots before you get the Lance is a wise choice, as it will let you judge what the new dynamic is before buying.
Personally, I have 2 Lancelots that I don't use, as I find the Thunder and other heavy weapons do not compliment the Orkan or Taran mediums on the bot (I plan to use th Lance with the upcoming heavy molot if the weapon is not nerfed too hard).
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 16:58:06 GMT -5
I would personally save until after the next update (both bot / weapon buffs / nerfs and matchmaker).
I am in a similar spot at a similar level, virtually identical robot lineup and with a similar play style. 5300 gold saved up. Only difference is I have a second Galahad. I generally play the dual trident carnage rather than the RDB griffin.
I wanted a third and forth galahad and have gotten shut down for the idea.
1 faction tells me to get the Lancelot for my big heavy brawler.
The other says stick with the meta and get a fury. (I have a third trident, currently lev 1).
A very small fraction says get a bunch of aphids and a third and forth orkan.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 8, 2017 17:37:43 GMT -5
Really appreciate the feedback! Team Alpha Stike, no problem with the waiting. I saw a couple of WW bots in my battles but they did not impact those games. Have you seen anything about a release date? I am curious about the Doc as well, good reason to wait. Since I started those bots and paint are the only new items for sale. Would be interesting to figure out new bot when it is released, hope it is soon. Been steady with my silver, I think will only be possible issue at level 11 if at all: Attachment DeletedWhat is your current hanger? Do you rotate anything in and out? I like to for variety, mainly the Carnage for the Rhino or Griffin w Tulus. Moody, thats cool with similar hangers! Do you see alot of challenging matches currently? Feel like I am running over alot of matches. I just backed up my high score with a 916k battle. I am lvling Tridents to 9 & will swap out Tulu Griff to see the effective damage. I do swap out Thunder Carnage with my Rhino. I thought about 2nd Galahad to run with Ork/Pins-Aphids. Can you post your hanger? Do you rotate bots in & out?? For now with all your input I will definitely wait for WW bots & see effects of MM changes. I do have 1 Aphid lvl 7 & may purchase 2nd to swap out w mags while I wait. |
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Post by Desolator on Jan 8, 2017 17:59:06 GMT -5
When I bought the furry before a couple of months, my RDB never saw sunlight. I never regret buying the furry.
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Jan 8, 2017 18:07:08 GMT -5
Very good advice so far. I have two Lancelots, but have been nowhere near the win percentage or streak. Not really sure if I should be giving you advice lol.
I was going to say build a thunder/orkan Lancelot to replace the Galahad, but the Lancelot might make you a big target and your numbers would go down imo. To add to the confusion, I 「female dog」 slap all plasma shield bots with my thunder/orkan Lancelots from day one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 18:10:08 GMT -5
Buy another Galahad
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Jan 8, 2017 18:13:27 GMT -5
When I bought the furry before a couple of months, my RDB never saw sunlight. I never regret buying the furry. I will likely get a Fury to replace my trident leo. If the OP replaced the Galahad and RDB with thunder/orkan Lancelot and a fury he would reach the 90th percentile. |
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 18:16:53 GMT -5
Moody, thats cool with similar hangers! Do you see alot of challenging matches currently? Feel like I am running over alot of matches. I just backed up my high score with a 916k battle. I am lvling Tridents to 9 & will swap out Tulu Griff to see the effective damage. I do swap out Thunder Carnage with my Rhino. I thought about 2nd Galahad to run with Ork/Pins-Aphids. Can you post your hanger? Do you rotate bots in & out?? As i said. Not absolutely identical. I am a pair of orkans short of being able to make your hanger though. I don't have your top or average damage. I tend to cap first and hunt after. I sometimes rotate. Mostly griffins and rhino. Have tried trident natasha and hate it.  |
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 18:19:04 GMT -5
PS.
I was recommended DB griffin and PDB Rhino. I can not get the feel of those combos and swapped them. Much happier.
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Post by Strayed on Jan 8, 2017 18:19:42 GMT -5
I'd say either a TT fury or a Plasma galahad. Lancelot is good but it's not quite as versatile as those two.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 8, 2017 18:24:15 GMT -5
Doesnt matter what yo playstyle is, TT Fury is an absolute game changer. Id like to identify as a knifer/power runner type of guy too, but the trident fury is in my hangar most of the time. Not a purchase you will regret. Edit: but i do really like galahads. Id personally go for 2nd gala before TT fury  . |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 8, 2017 18:32:32 GMT -5
Wannabetoughguy,
Want all the feedback!! If the the Lancelot was not a walking magnet wing for aphids to land on I would purchase for sure. The thought of release of WW bots soon & the ability to purchase with Au or WS has strong appeal. I believe moody is in similiar position. The feedback given to me helped make that decision.
I was running my Thunder Carnage during the event for max dam. I was lvling my Tulus/Pins during event & brought out after the event. With 3 weps at lvl 9 it is definitely more effective. I am now lvling the Tridents to 9 for my Carnage to compare effectiveness for mid support.
*One strategy I am trying to implement is determining most effective choice during the battle, what bot will give me an advantage or at least counter what is in play.
Moody, I see the similarities, I to tried 3 variations on the Rhino. I like the hellfire the best, constant fire on the approach if available & able to do some damage durin Orkan reload.
I to also am constantly checking on beacons. I am now trying to recognize points where I am weighing a beacon vs. bot. I have had many battles I could/should have went after a bot vs beacon. To many times I have seen my beacon count 3x next blue but missed high dam. Something to think about. I have increased my damage by recognizing this at the correct time.
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 18:50:54 GMT -5
Wannabetoughguy, Want all the feedback!! If the the Lancelot was not a walking magnet wing for aphids to land on I would purchase for sure. The thought of release of WW bots soon & the ability to purchase with Au or WS has strong appeal. I believe moody is in similiar position. The feedback given to me helped make that decision. I was running my Thunder Carnage during the event for max dam. I was lvling my Tulus/Pins during event & brought out after the event. With 3 weps at lvl 9 it is definitely more effective. I am now lvling the Tridents to 9 for my Carnage to compare effectiveness for mid support. *One strategy I am trying to implement is determining most effective choice during the battle, what bot will give my an advantage or at least counter what is in play. I chose trident carnage above RDB: I am not getting a significant advantage or disadvantage between it and the RDB. Both work well in the mid range support roll. carnage can stay just a touch further back. However, I use the RDB weapons in my silver hanger at level 8. I do not want to level them further while I have another option for the gold hanger. Even if the Carnage doesn't go all the way, the Tridents can end up on a fury so leveling is not a waste. I have a level 6 kwk that I can use in my silver hanger. Regardless of what I buy now. A fury will be in my future. Just whether I get orkans / aphids / Lance first or not. I don't have all the weapons levelled for a fury yet. I do for a lance. I am not certain whether a Lance will be in my future. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 8, 2017 18:53:40 GMT -5
Wannabetoughguy, Want all the feedback!! If the the Lancelot was not a walking magnet wing for aphids to land on I would purchase for sure. The thought of release of WW bots soon & the ability to purchase with Au or WS has strong appeal. I believe moody is in similiar position. The feedback given to me helped make that decision. I was running my Thunder Carnage during the event for max dam. I was lvling my Tulus/Pins during event & brought out after the event. With 3 weps at lvl 9 it is definitely more effective. I am now lvling the Tridents to 9 for my Carnage to compare effectiveness for mid support. *One strategy I am trying to implement is determining most effective choice during the battle, what bot will give my an advantage or at least counter what is in play. I chose trident carnage above RDB: I am not getting a significant advantage or disadvantage between it and the RDB. Both work well in the mid range support roll. carnage can stay just a touch further back. However, I use the RDB weapons in my silver hanger at level 8. I do not want to level them further while I have another option for the gold hanger. Even if the Carnage doesn't go all the way, the Tridents can end up on a fury so leveling is not a waste. I have a level 6 kwk that I can use in my silver hanger. Regardless of what I buy now. A fury will be in my future. Just whether I get orkans / aphids / Lance first or not. I don't have all the weapons levelled for a fury yet. I do for a lance. I am not certain whether a Lance will be in my future. i would wait and see of they further nerf aphids, if not, i wouldn't personally recommend the lancelot. |
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Jan 8, 2017 18:56:49 GMT -5
^^Replace the RDB griff with a trident fury and you would be unstoppable.
We should all wait and see how the WW bots perform. But, I believe your Galahad will eat the medium WW bot alive even one with 4 orkans. You could always run a splash Galahad if need be.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 8, 2017 19:03:42 GMT -5
Thanks Strayed & CAMPER:
Do you think Doc or Butch are worth waiting for? From any game stand point I do not see Pix waiting much time before releasing the WW bots.
Both of you are TT players and I certainly respect your feedback.
If you guys really believe the Fury is a game changer, I must consider that.
The only other true game changers I believe are 4th & 5th slot.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 8, 2017 19:09:55 GMT -5
Really appreciate the feedback! Team Alpha Stike, no problem with the waiting. I saw a couple of WW bots in my battles but they did not impact those games. Have you seen anything about a release date? I am curious about the Doc as well, good reason to wait. Since I started those bots and paint are the only new items for sale. Would be interesting to figure out new bot when it is released, hope it is soon. Been steady with my silver, I think will only be possible issue at level 11 if at all: What is your current hanger? Do you rotate anything in and out? I like to for variety, mainly the Carnage for the Rhino or Griffin w Tulus. Moody, thats cool with similar hangers! Do you see alot of challenging matches currently? Feel like I am running over alot of matches. I just backed up my high score with a 916k battle. I am lvling Tridents to 9 & will swap out Tulu Griff to see the effective damage. I do swap out Thunder Carnage with my Rhino. I thought about 2nd Galahad to run with Ork/Pins-Aphids. Can you post your hanger? Do you rotate bots in & out?? For now with all your input I will definitely wait for WW bots & see effects of MM changes. I do have 1 Aphid lvl 7 & may purchase 2nd to swap out w mags while I wait. Here are my battle stats and resource amounts. I basically have ever resource available to get anything I want in the game, but most of what I have is because I don't speed up upgrades and I don't go overboard with maintaining more than one hangar. My primary bot in my TT hangar (I play min L11 everything) are -2 Rhinos -2 Griffs -2 Carnages -2 Galahads My primary weapons are (Aldo min L11): - 4 Thunders - 4 Orkans - 6 Tarans - 7 Aphids - 2 Pinatas - 2 CRVs - 2 Tulumbas - 2 Tridents - 2 Zeus I'm upgrading 2 more Tulumbas to ready for the Doc and a 3rd Griff. I have 2 Lancelots also in TT, but they don't get used. ![]()  |
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 19:12:43 GMT -5
Really appreciate the feedback! Team Alpha Stike, no problem with the waiting. I saw a couple of WW bots in my battles but they did not impact those games. Have you seen anything about a release date? I am curious about the Doc as well, good reason to wait. Since I started those bots and paint are the only new items for sale. Would be interesting to figure out new bot when it is released, hope it is soon. Been steady with my silver, I think will only be possible issue at level 11 if at all: What is your current hanger? Do you rotate anything in and out? I like to for variety, mainly the Carnage for the Rhino or Griffin w Tulus. Moody, thats cool with similar hangers! Do you see alot of challenging matches currently? Feel like I am running over alot of matches. I just backed up my high score with a 916k battle. I am lvling Tridents to 9 & will swap out Tulu Griff to see the effective damage. I do swap out Thunder Carnage with my Rhino. I thought about 2nd Galahad to run with Ork/Pins-Aphids. Can you post your hanger? Do you rotate bots in & out?? For now with all your input I will definitely wait for WW bots & see effects of MM changes. I do have 1 Aphid lvl 7 & may purchase 2nd to swap out w mags while I wait. Here are my battle stats and resource amounts. I basically have ever resource available to get anything I want in the game, but most of what I have is because I don't speed up upgrades and I don't go overboard with maintaining more than one hangar. My primary bot in my TT hangar (I play min L11 everything) are -2 Rhinos -3 Griffins -2 Galahads -2 Carnages My primary weapons are (Aldo min L11): - 4 Thunders - 4 Orkans - 6 Tarans - 7 Aphids - 2 Pinatas - 2 CRVs - 2 Tulumbas - 2 Tridents - 2 Zeus I'm upgrading 2 more Tulumbas to ready for the Doc. I have 2 Lancelots also in TT, but they don't get used. ![]() What's your opinion on the Fury? Have you missed not having one? |
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 19:14:05 GMT -5
(Presuming you don't have one, you probably have 3).
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 8, 2017 19:17:58 GMT -5
(Presuming you don't have one, you probably have 3). i actually do have 3, not by choice, but because i won one of them in a superchest XD. |
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 19:20:18 GMT -5
(Presuming you don't have one, you probably have 3). i actually do have 3, not by choice, but because i won one of them in a superchest XD. Do you have anything to arm them with? |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 8, 2017 19:24:53 GMT -5
i actually do have 3, not by choice, but because i won one of them in a superchest XD. Do you have anything to arm them with? i have 3x tridents, 3x trebuchets, 3x kwk and 3x zeus all appropriately levelled and ready to use. My next wsp purchases will be another 3x tridents. |
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 8, 2017 19:30:13 GMT -5
I could buy 5 Furies, but I've never liked the REMF role and there's plenty of TT pilots that have 2 or even 3 (mid-range us getting totally out of control in this game) 500-600m range setups.
Every match I play, there will be at least 2 Fury on each team in TT and there are many matches that have 4-7 Furies on one side. Sure, they are the OP and I'd be crazy say otherwise, but I'll not add to the armies of Fury pilots out there.
I've been waiting for the Heavy Molot for months as a foil to the Fury and that wait is coming to an end (if you believe what the Pix devs said). In the meantime, I'll be definitely buying the Doc and use it in the quad Tulumbas setup as a more mobile midrange setup.
I'll not be buying the Fury - too slow and it just doesn't fit in my power runner play style.
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Post by moody on Jan 8, 2017 19:35:37 GMT -5
I could buy 5 Furies, but I've never liked the REMF role and there's plenty of TT pilots that have 2 or even 3 (mid-range us getting totally out of control in this game) 500-600m range setups. Every match I play, there will be at least 2 Fury on each team in TT and there are many matches that have 4-7 Furies on one side. Sure, they are the OP and I'd be crazy say otherwise, but I'll not add to the armies of Fury pilots out there. I've been waiting for the Heavy Molot for months as a foil to the Fury and that wait is coming to an end (if you believe what the Pix devs said). In the meantime, I'll be definitely buying the Doc and use it in the quad Tulumbas setup as a more mobile midrange setup. I'll not be buying the Fury - too slow and it just doesn't fit in my power runner play style. Exactly how I feel. |
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