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Post by wildboar on Aug 14, 2017 8:57:17 GMT -5
I know the collective wisdom is not to blow Au on upgrades .... but ...
I am in the 9/10 zone for upgrades and some of them take 3 days... so what is wrong with blowing 500 Au to speed an upgrade that will take another 2days 10h ... I have lots of bots & weps (not everything but a reasonable selection)
I am racing through the silver too; a month or so ago I had 137 million ... now down to 35 Million while still earning at a decent rate
I suppose not speeding up the upgrade gives you more time to earn Ag
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 14, 2017 9:22:22 GMT -5
I'll use Au on the very first upgrades, like up to lvl 3, and then I might use it to speed up the last hour or so of a long upgrade to time the next one's completion to fit into my schedule. But you kind of gave the best reason yourself for not blowing huge amounts on them: you also blow through your silver much faster than you can reasonably earn it.
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Post by zman on Aug 14, 2017 9:30:33 GMT -5
I try not to blow it on full upgrades, but I will if there are say are 0-6hrs left and I have the Ag to start the next one, that way I get to play with my current upgrade. Though, I don't have that many uses for Au right now, I've got two lances, a fury, all the Au weapons I need etc. All I'd be saving it for would be to buy influence for the WW bunch which I'm not sure I "need" or wait for the dash bots. I mean I'm spending 2500 Au on a skin, might as well spend some to get something sooner haha.
I did blow quite a bit of Au speed leveling my Tempest to lvl 8 so I could at least use it when I got it.
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Post by fatdogmagic on Aug 14, 2017 9:35:13 GMT -5
I have used gold to rush upgrades but I haven't done it recently. I'm saving for the new bots and weapons but I also won't spend the gold because I don't think it will make a big enough difference in my performance to make it worth it. However, that's me. It's a game and if you want to do it then go for it
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Post by Poopface on Aug 14, 2017 9:42:10 GMT -5
I only use gold on upgrades to accelerate them marginally. Whenever possible, I try to schedule my upgrades so they time out when I'm around my ipad. I hate to have one wrap up an hour after I go to bed, when I'm commuting to work, or part way into a lengthy drive to visit my in-laws. Depending on the cost, I'm fine with spending <60 gold to keep the timetable moving along in my favor.
That being said, I'm getting to the point with my main account where it's taking me a few days to save up enough to upgrade my weapons beyond level 9. In that case, it's a moot point.
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Post by moody on Aug 14, 2017 19:06:44 GMT -5
I won't spend my gold to speed up upgrades. I currently have 79mil silver. At the rate I am upgrading right now I am keeping up with my present silver earnings: In three weeks I will be getting into level 11 upgrades and at that point I will be blowing through it far faster. If I keep at my current earning rate I expect to be out of silver in approximately 7 weeks. No use speeding up anything just to not be able to upgrade a little earlier than 7 weeks. The point for me is to plan upgrades so that I am available when they start / finish. I have posted an earlier version of this before but it shows what I do in order to not be restarting an upgrade at 3am:  Edited, 79mil silver, not gold. |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 14, 2017 21:15:00 GMT -5
I spent 3 months upgrading 7 weapons to L12, without spending Gold .. I'll be dammed if I do that, again.
At the very least, spend the Gold from L10 - L12 ..
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Post by moody on Aug 14, 2017 21:18:43 GMT -5
I spent 3 months upgrading 7 weapons to L12, without spending Gold .. I'll be dammed if I do that, again. At the very least, spend the Gold from L10 - L12 .. I'd run out of silver before I got half way to 11. |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 14, 2017 21:26:52 GMT -5
I spent 3 months upgrading 7 weapons to L12, without spending Gold .. I'll be dammed if I do that, again. At the very least, spend the Gold from L10 - L12 .. I'd run out of silver before I got half way to 11. Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much, then start upgrading but don't spend Gold, yet. As you're upgrading you'll continue to earn Silver. Because you started with a large fund of Silver, you won't run out for the duration of the upgrades. .. you have to go from Top - Down. I upgraded Pin×2, Zeus cannon, Molot Mk2×2 and Orkan×2 this way. |
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Post by moody on Aug 14, 2017 22:04:05 GMT -5
I'd run out of silver before I got half way to 11. Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much, then start upgrading but don't spend Gold, yet. As you're upgrading you'll continue to earn Silver. Because you started with a large fund of Silver, you won't run out for the duration of the upgrades. .. you have to go from Top Down. I upgraded Pin×2, Zeus cannon, Molot Mk2×2 and Orkan×2 this way. 80mil is not a large fund of Silver. it will get 6 medium weapons from 10 to 11 All the silver to upgrade from 11 to 12?? That is a HELL of a lot of silver, I have a lot more than your 7 guns. I work full time, I have two children. My planning for upgrades is something I have analysed a hell of a more than you have. Please research things before you make a completely ridiculous comment. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Aug 14, 2017 22:12:16 GMT -5
My experience, playing around a year.
When my hangar was 8/9 ~ 9/9, I had 330 Million Silver. That was around beginning of year Jan- Feb, close to league starting etc...
My current hangar:
L11 bots = Lancelot & Galahad
L10 bots = 2x Griffins
L9 bots = Griffin, Rhino, Fury, Carnage
L12 Weps = Thunder, 4x Orkans, 3x Tarans, 2x Mags
L11 Weps = 3x Tridents, 2x Tulus, 2x Pins, 2x Aphids
L10 Weps = 2x Thunders
Assorted random L7 bots & L7-L9 weapons.
I have purchased a 40 day prem pack, went a few weeks, now 14 days left on 2nd prem pack. Currently have 109 Million Silver. I did spend $10 on Au to speed up my 1st set of L12 weapons 2x Tarans, I couldn't wait to a week & half to both leveled. That was also 70 Million Ag spent in 3 minutes.
I started in Gold III or I, I think it was III...pretty sure. Currently in Master I.
I have been continually upgrading my current hangar weapons to L12 all my until 2.9. At that point with all the changes I stopped upgrading L11 weapons with all buffs & nerfs. I started managing my Silver level keeping 100 Millionish on tap if I want to start my L11 weps again, most likely will complete rdb loadout. There is always something to upgrade to manage your silver bank. I have 2x Zeus , a full set of Punishers & Molots - these are all between L6 - L9.
Premium is a must for anyone leveling 10+, there is no way to continually generate that much silver, specifically at L12, it can be 20-35 Million a weapon.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 14, 2017 22:13:44 GMT -5
I just want to state something that rarely gets said...
It's not WRONG to spend Au in any way you feel that you get the value out of it that you want.
The idea that it's wasteful is when you are grinding and have things to save for and you are trying to maximize progression in levels on the most efficient way without paying.
The method mentioned above where you use the upgrade time to build up silver for the next one makes a lot of sense... And is just plain practical. Why use Au on speeding if you have 4 orks, a Lance, a Rog, and 3 Zeuses left still to buy for your dream hangar?
But otherwise, if you have the ability to buy Au... There's no shame in that. And if you do buy it... Use it for what you want.
IMO.
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Post by WilsonK on Aug 14, 2017 22:41:35 GMT -5
I know the collective wisdom is not to blow Au on upgrades .... but ... I am in the 9/10 zone for upgrades and some of them take 3 days... so what is wrong with blowing 500 Au to speed an upgrade that will take another 2days 10h ... I have lots of bots & weps (not everything but a reasonable selection) I am racing through the silver too; a month or so ago I had 137 million ... now down to 35 Million while still earning at a decent rate I suppose not speeding up the upgrade gives you more time to earn Ag Heck it, I'd say blow it if it makes you happy to push your favourite bot to an All-12. I'm coming up on 300m Ag now, and piled around 3.7k Au, I'm not blowing on my upgrades yet because I'm saving for the new bots (if they are to be purchased with gold). Yes not blowing Au on upgrades gives you ample time to earn Ag, but if you really wanna blow, make sure you have a solid foundation of Ag to pair with your Au. Example a pretty decent 3d upgrade may burn away ±600 Au, and usually those upgrades are for lvl.10 and above, average of 15m - 25m Ag (dependent on weapon hardpoint or bots). If you're gonna blow 5 upgrades which amounts to ±3,000 Au, better make sure you have at least ±100m Ag. My two cents. |
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Post by WilsonK on Aug 14, 2017 22:43:00 GMT -5
I just want to state something that rarely gets said... It's not WRONG to spend Au in any way you feel that you get the value out of it that you want. The idea that it's wasteful is when you are grinding and have things to save for and you are trying to maximize progression in levels on the most efficient way without paying. The method mentioned above where you use the upgrade time to build up silver for the next one makes a lot of sense... And is just plain practical. Why use Au on speeding if you have 4 orks, a Lance, a Rog, and 3 Zeuses left still to buy for your dream hangar? But otherwise, if you have the ability to buy Au... There's no shame in that. And if you do buy it... Use it for what you want. IMO. Yeap! As tricky said!  |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 15, 2017 0:22:24 GMT -5
Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much, then start upgrading but don't spend Gold, yet. As you're upgrading you'll continue to earn Silver. Because you started with a large fund of Silver, you won't run out for the duration of the upgrades. .. you have to go from Top Down. I upgraded Pin×2, Zeus cannon, Molot Mk2×2 and Orkan×2 this way. 80mil is not a large fund of Silver. it will get 6 medium weapons from 10 to 11 All the silver to upgrade from 11 to 12?? That is a HELL of a lot of silver, I have a lot more than your 7 guns. I work full time, I have two children. My planning for upgrades is something I have analysed a hell of a more than you have. Please research things before you make a completely ridiculous comment. WOW! I just tried to help you by giving advice on how to upgrade, the easy way .. and you attack me!? Just WOW! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 0:34:07 GMT -5
I know the collective wisdom is not to blow Au on upgrades .... but ... I am in the 9/10 zone for upgrades and some of them take 3 days... so what is wrong with blowing 500 Au to speed an upgrade that will take another 2days 10h ... I have lots of bots & weps (not everything but a reasonable selection) I am racing through the silver too; a month or so ago I had 137 million ... now down to 35 Million while still earning at a decent rate I suppose not speeding up the upgrade gives you more time to earn Ag forget about collective wisedom it turns pretty often into collective mistake! to speed up with gold is a good thing when you try to compensate a lackluster hangar unbalanced! you got the feeling that the solution is at your fingertip! and you drown into multiple!e options (very expensive ones of course) so you have to speed up something quickly! the result is NEVER EVER good enough but the overall quality of your hangar increase slightly, assuming you want to level the whole hangar! to my point of view its better to focus on one or two bots at a time (for specific purpose!) hence you don't squander ag ! the way leagues and tiers works are based on milestones you have to reach in order to jump into the next league! if l do remember well you need to reach a 10/10 hangard if you want to compete(and survive) in diamond! so speed up !!! and Godspeed! |
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Post by moody on Aug 15, 2017 0:49:02 GMT -5
80mil is not a large fund of Silver. it will get 6 medium weapons from 10 to 11 All the silver to upgrade from 11 to 12?? That is a HELL of a lot of silver, I have a lot more than your 7 guns. I work full time, I have two children. My planning for upgrades is something I have analysed a hell of a more than you have. Please research things before you make a completely ridiculous comment. WOW! I just tried to help you by giving advice on how to upgrade, the easy way .. and you attack me!? Just WOW! I am commenting that you have said, and I quote "Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much " In one day? two? I have already said that at my current spending and earning I will run out in 7 weeks. The only thing to mitagate that is premium. Just as an example from 11 to 12 as you said (and I'm going to 11 now, not 12) 6 orks at 23mil a piece. 138 mil in 26 days. I earn 15 mil a week. That's 78 mil short!! I have done the calculations - you haven't. |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 15, 2017 0:57:10 GMT -5
WOW! I just tried to help you by giving advice on how to upgrade, the easy way .. and you attack me!? Just WOW! I am commenting that you have said, and I quote "Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much " In one day? two? I have already said that at my current spending and earning I will run out in 7 weeks. The only thing to mitagate that is premium. Just as an example from 11 to 12 as you said (and I'm going to 11 now, not 12) 6 orks at 23mil a piece. 138 mil in 26 days. I earn 15 mil a week. That's 78 mil short!! I have done the calculations - you haven't. I upgraded 7 weapons in 3 months using the aforementioned method - 2 of those upgrades were Orkans and I have 2 more Orkans on their way to L12, currently. I obviously have crunched the numbers. You are not factoring in Silver earnings during the upgrade process. But no worries .. I won't help you, anymore. |
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Post by moody on Aug 15, 2017 1:01:25 GMT -5
I am commenting that you have said, and I quote "Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much " In one day? two? I have already said that at my current spending and earning I will run out in 7 weeks. The only thing to mitagate that is premium. Just as an example from 11 to 12 as you said (and I'm going to 11 now, not 12) 6 orks at 23mil a piece. 138 mil in 26 days. I earn 15 mil a week. That's 78 mil short!! I have done the calculations - you haven't. I upgraded 7 weapons in 3 months using the aforementioned method - 2 of those upgrades were Orkans and I have 2 more Orkans on their way to L12, currently. I obviously have crunched the numbers. You are not factoring in Silver earnings during the upgrade process. But no worries .. I won't help you, anymore. Where does "I earn 15 mil silver a week" not factor in the silver earnings during the upgrade process? I can be civil on that other thread, but here I know the numbers! I have worked bloody hard at getting this right and I know what I am doing. Read and research and take in what you research! |
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Post by moody on Aug 15, 2017 1:09:27 GMT -5
I am commenting that you have said, and I quote "Look to see how much Silver it costs to upgrade from L11 - L12. Then earn that much " In one day? two? I have already said that at my current spending and earning I will run out in 7 weeks. The only thing to mitagate that is premium. Just as an example from 11 to 12 as you said (and I'm going to 11 now, not 12) 6 orks at 23mil a piece. 138 mil in 26 days. I earn 15 mil a week. That's 78 mil short!! I have done the calculations - you haven't. I upgraded 7 weapons in 3 months using the aforementioned method - 2 of those upgrades were Orkans and I have 2 more Orkans on their way to L12, currently. I obviously have crunched the numbers. You are not factoring in Silver earnings during the upgrade process. But no worries .. I won't help you, anymore. I have spent a lot of time on you which I regret. I wish you would take in even some of what several people have been suggesting to you. |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 15, 2017 1:13:54 GMT -5
I upgraded 7 weapons in 3 months using the aforementioned method - 2 of those upgrades were Orkans and I have 2 more Orkans on their way to L12, currently. I obviously have crunched the numbers. You are not factoring in Silver earnings during the upgrade process. But no worries .. I won't help you, anymore. I have spent a lot of time on you which I regret. I wish you would take in even some of what several people have been suggesting to you. .. and I have spent too much time defending myself from, You. |
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Post by Tatamat on Aug 15, 2017 1:41:43 GMT -5
Yup, as has been said, using Au for speeding up upgrades may not be a bad thing.
It's just at the very very bottom of the list.
If you've exhausted all options listed above that...you're a happy man! No problem with speeding up then.
Just be aware that in case you have missed some if the items on the list, you're probably leaving some ineffectiveness somewhere in your hangar.
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Post by WilsonK on Aug 15, 2017 2:46:01 GMT -5
Jeezerz chill out man! You two are like an old married couple bickering away!  moody Firebeard now grab a beer, both of you, and drink up! |
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Post by hon_shu on Aug 15, 2017 3:17:10 GMT -5
Just an additional thought - on topic.
It's much cheaper to speed up one three day upgrade than three one day upgrades. So saving the Gold for higher levels and longer upgrade times makes sense.
I do hear about the silver wall a lot. I'm running premium and currently sit on 350 million. Doing level 9 upgrades with occasional speed up I can still generate silver faster than spending it. I do play quite a bit, though, currently 700+ activity.
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Post by wildboar on Aug 15, 2017 3:24:52 GMT -5
I am doing some L10 upgrades and my >130 Mil stockpile of Ag is now 36 Million
Most I have to say went on a Lancelot to L10 ..Ancile to L10 & 2 L10 Orkans
350 million Ag is quite a bit!
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Post by Russel on Aug 15, 2017 3:38:38 GMT -5
I know the collective wisdom is not to blow Au on upgrades .... but ... I am in the 9/10 zone for upgrades and some of them take 3 days... so what is wrong with blowing 500 Au to speed an upgrade that will take another 2days 10h ... I have lots of bots & weps (not everything but a reasonable selection) I am racing through the silver too; a month or so ago I had 137 million ... now down to 35 Million while still earning at a decent rate I suppose not speeding up the upgrade gives you more time to earn Ag In terms of Minutes saved per Au you are better off speeding up upgrade right away. And here is a bonus picture for you:  |
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Post by wildboar on Aug 15, 2017 3:44:12 GMT -5
Great table that! Now where is the one for weapons  |
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Post by moody on Aug 15, 2017 3:52:54 GMT -5
Love the table.
Quick look tells me i'll be leveling stalker when my silver gets low.
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Post by Poopface on Aug 15, 2017 5:05:20 GMT -5
Jeezerz chill out man! You two are like an old married couple bickering away! moody Firebeard now grab a beer, both of you, and drink up! I'd link a cat fight gif for them, but I'm on my phone. Nuts! |
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Post by wildboar on Aug 15, 2017 6:06:10 GMT -5
 Seems apt that one is in blue and the other in red |
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