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Post by Fredrick on Jan 5, 2017 20:06:51 GMT -5
I jumped the gun and bought a Galahad. I say jumped the gun bc so far I have not been able to use it successfully. However - I just finished a match where I came in first and the second place had an all Lvl 1 hanger - 2 golems, 1 Boa, 1 Patton, and 1 Galahad. All these bots had and average weapons level of 9/11. And his win rate..... wait for it... 94%~! So, I thought to myself. I have a lot of Lvl 1 medium bots from the giveaway - maybe I'll give that galahad another try. So I switched all my level 7/8 weapons to lvl 1 medium bots - including the galahad...  Bad idea - we won but I didn't even make the top 3! I ALWAYS make top three.... What gives? This was the top player on my team?... How does that make any sense?  My hanger shines with my lvl 4 medium bots - no brit bots, no WSP bots... Just figured I'd try something new - any advice? |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 5, 2017 20:57:43 GMT -5
Put the galahad away till you are using 6/8 heavy bots, at that point you can use a 7/9 galahad (high silver). The galahad truly starts to shine when you get into low gold though (8/9 heavies, 9/10 mediums), as at lvl 9 the galahad reaches its maximum speed of 50km/h, enabling it to backpedal orkan/pinata fire to maximum effectiveness.
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 21:02:31 GMT -5
A quick Galahad is a good Galahad. Level 1 is not quick.
I don't think I ever tried using mine with lower than 6/8 heavies, I don't know how it works in lower tiers.
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 5, 2017 21:31:49 GMT -5
All Camelot Bots don't really show promise until lvl 9 and up. Galahad is a beast at lvl 11-12. A Russian Death Button set-up is a must.
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Post by blognio on Jan 5, 2017 21:33:04 GMT -5
I jumped the gun and bought a Galahad. I say jumped the gun bc so far I have not been able to use it successfully. However - I just finished a match where I came in first and the second place had an all Lvl 1 hanger - 2 golems, 1 Boa, 1 Patton, and 1 Galahad. All these bots had and average weapons level of 9/11. And his win rate..... wait for it... 94%~! So, I thought to myself. I have a lot of Lvl 1 medium bots from the giveaway - maybe I'll give that galahad another try. So I switched all my level 7/8 weapons to lvl 1 medium bots - including the galahad... Bad idea - we won but I didn't even make the top 3! I ALWAYS make top three.... What gives? This was the top player on my team?... How does that make any sense? My hanger shines with my lvl 4 medium bots - no brit bots, no WSP bots... Just figured I'd try something new - any advice? sameeee with the buying galahad |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 21:35:19 GMT -5
You are being pushed to high silver. Place the Galahads either with other Galahads or with your heavy bots.
There should be no reason to use your lvl 1 galahad with other lvl 1 bots because no level 1 bot will survive in high silver
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Jan 5, 2017 21:36:54 GMT -5
Galahad.. like the others said, you need to keep it shelved until you got a proper 6/8 hangar. At level 6 it's fast enough to evade Orkans and Pinatas sidestepping, therefore it's powerful..for now? It will only get you into trouble.
And MM has been very inconsistent lately..so the Galahad that slip into your match was probably one of its many "accident".
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Jan 5, 2017 21:38:31 GMT -5
✦SmokeJα✦ but why RDB (and the whole DB things actually only applied to Rhino and Griffin, but who cares), how about Plasma Galahad?
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Post by mechbond on Jan 5, 2017 21:38:56 GMT -5
It's a bit pointless complaining about Galahad's performance at level 1. Level it to 6 and you will see huge difference starting at level 5 or so.
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 5, 2017 21:49:56 GMT -5
Allow me to clarify RDB on a Galahad, they all out to get you with a RDB at lvl 30 in top tier lol.... I run both a DB and Plasma Galahad for sniper and Beacon jockey.  |
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Jan 5, 2017 22:02:51 GMT -5
Ooh.,many Galahads. I like it. And i only got one.  |
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Post by Fredrick on Jan 5, 2017 22:06:00 GMT -5
You are being pushed to high silver. Place the Galahads either with other Galahads or with your heavy bots. There should be no reason to use your lvl 1 galahad with other lvl 1 bots because no level 1 bot will survive in high silver I get that the Galahad is not that efficient in lower tiers - but why such a bump? I'm aware of the 20% britbot penalty but my experience does not really compute... I'm mostly interested in why MM pushed me so high? Your answer comes close but could anyone provide any more details about why I was pushed so high? My fault for not being clear in my OP. Thanks! |
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Post by B30RLL on Jan 5, 2017 22:28:30 GMT -5
Asking "why does MM [ enter rant here ]" will take you down a dark path of endless frustration. Don't go there  My guess is britbots were not intended to be used in lower tiers as that would add fire to already flaming issue of gep clubbing, so MM will just not let you in. Get it up to L6+ it's a game-changer. It's the fav bot of many, including myself and many have multiple in their line up. I saw someone suggest RDB setup above. If they meant tulum + 2 pins, IMO I would not recommend this. Mid-range does not play to galahad's strength, and 1 tulum set-up not very effective. Would suggest full plasma (taran+mag), right-hand-smack (ork+pinata), or ork+aphid setups on the galahad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 22:32:20 GMT -5
You are being pushed to high silver. Place the Galahads either with other Galahads or with your heavy bots. There should be no reason to use your lvl 1 galahad with other lvl 1 bots because no level 1 bot will survive in high silver I get that the Galahad is not that efficient in lower tiers - but why such a bump? I'm aware of the 20% britbot penalty but my experience does not really compute... I'm mostly interested in why MM pushed me so high? Your answer comes close but could anyone provide any more details about why I was pushed so high? My fault for not being clear in my OP. Thanks! If Britbots did not have a penalty, all clubber would sell their gepards for Gareths and Galahads |
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Post by Fredrick on Jan 5, 2017 22:34:55 GMT -5
Asking "why does MM [ enter rant here ]" will take you down a dark path of endless frustration. Don't go there My guess is britbots were not intended to be used in lower tiers as that would add fire to already flaming issue of gep clubbing, so MM will just not let you in. This! - Thank you! |
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 22:43:10 GMT -5
Allow me to clarify RDB on a Galahad, they all out to get you with a RDB at lvl 30 in top tier lol.... I run both a DB and Plasma Galahad for sniper and Beacon jockey. Pardon? Seriously I don't understand a word you said. (Galahad with RDB setup sounds ridiculous, I have used plasma and right hand smack and both work well). |
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 5, 2017 22:55:11 GMT -5
Allow me to clarify RDB on a Galahad, they all out to get you with a RDB at lvl 30 in top tier lol.... I run both a DB and Plasma Galahad for sniper and Beacon jockey. Pardon? Seriously I don't understand a word you said. (Galahad with RDB setup sounds ridiculous, I have used plasma and right hand smack and both work well). |
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 22:59:25 GMT -5
Pardon? Seriously I don't understand a word you said. (Galahad with RDB setup sounds ridiculous, I have used plasma and right hand smack and both work well). ummmmm |
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 5, 2017 23:05:55 GMT -5
Clan war buddy.... Clan wars are full of RDB Rhinos and Griffs..... I run a Ork/pin Galahad for hunting them down. That very set up is a serious threat, not ridiculous my friend, thus I must be dealt with by my foes.
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 23:16:50 GMT -5
Clan war buddy.... Clan wars are full of RDB Rhinos and Griffs..... I run a Ork/pin Galahad for hunting them down. That very set up is a serious threat, not ridiculous my friend, thus I must be dealt with by my foes. Ork Pin is not RDB, RDB is Tulumbus PIN. How do you go with the mixed ranges? |
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 23:17:40 GMT -5
Also, I don't think many people use and RDB Rhino?
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 5, 2017 23:37:37 GMT -5
Moody, that would be of opinion in which there are many on what is a definition of RDB. At the end of the day, it's a splash effect one is after to drop your opponents quickly in battle. What you see in Andriod Walking War Robots clans might be something different in the IOS clans or Walking War Robots. Rhinos with Orks/Pins, Tulu/pins are not uncommon in my world of IOS. As I mentioned, I run 2 Galas one has Plasma. I opp in for "knife-fighting" but have to put up with Aphid and Trident running chickens.. capish ?
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Post by moody on Jan 5, 2017 23:44:24 GMT -5
Moody, that would be of opinion in which there are many on what is a definition of RDB. At the end of the day, it's a splash effect one is after to drop your opponents quickly in battle. What you see in Andriod Walking War Robots clans might be something different in the IOS clans or Walking War Robots. Rhinos with Orks/Pins, Tulu/pins are not uncommon in my world of IOS. As I mentioned, I run 2 Galas one has Plasma. I opp in for "knife-fighting" but have to put up with Aphid and Trident running chickens.. capish ? I would assume. being on the forum related to the the War Robots wiki, that we would use the wiki definition: Russian death button (RDB) A shorthand for a Rhino or Griffin that is equipped with S-25 Tulumbas and CRV Pins. So named because it is basically a mid-range variant of the #Death Button setup, featuring weapons that numerous Russian players tend to heavily favor. As far as I know this is standard. I know I am stretching the definition for a Galahad with the same armament. |
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Post by Curry Pot on Jan 5, 2017 23:54:40 GMT -5
An RDB setup, by both common use of the term and definition, uses the Tulumbas and CRV Pin, no exceptions. If everyone felt like they had to use their own definitions of commonly used terms, then no one would be able to comprehend each other without lengthy explanations.
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Post by ✦SmokeJα✦ on Jan 6, 2017 0:11:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation Curry. I will say the term of the RDB has been adopted by some people and the standard has been mis-communicated to yours truly by someone else . This is why I join this Wiki borad to get informed and learn more; I appreciate the clarification.
Hey Fredrick, didn't mean for your thread to morph into something else. Case closed
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 6, 2017 5:20:55 GMT -5
All Camelot Bots don't really show promise until lvl 9 and up. Galahad is a beast at lvl 11-12. A Russian Death Button set-up is a must. Sorry, but just lets agree to disagree in this point. Im using a Gareth 4\6 and it is my best performing bot. It really is outstanding in high bronze, low silver tier. But that is off topic, sorry... |
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 6, 2017 10:26:20 GMT -5
I also disagree on the Galahad. I use two plasma Galahads in my hangar (4/7 Gepards and 2/6 mediums), and even though I'm facing stronger competition, these guys are beasts. My win rate has dropped to about 65% because I can't win games on my own anymore as I did in bronze or low silver, but strategies are much more interesting. But for me, winning 90% is not a priority.
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Post by zman on Jan 6, 2017 12:41:19 GMT -5
I believe the Gallahad gets penalized just like a Heavy bot does, do you were betting smacked around with your lvl 1 bots because you got tossed up into Silver from High Bronze. Shelve it until you are ready for Silver.
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Post by Curry Pot on Jan 6, 2017 22:41:20 GMT -5
I run a 7/9 Galahad with Orkans and Pinatas, and it's a lot of fun, even though it takes at least two attacks to take out anything bigger than a Gareth. It is well adapted to corner shooting and can easily take out other galahads. I have run the plasma galahad before and I personally think that plasma is the stronger setup for the bot, but I personally find rockets to be a lot more entertaining. I do not give penalty bots any special consideration when it comes to leveling, and MM has worked fine for me so far. The MM penalties are irrelevant past low silver and can be safely ignored.
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Post by jazzykat on Jan 7, 2017 14:56:38 GMT -5
I bought a Galahad and it's great. Even at level 4 he is awesome in high silver. I'm leveling all the way to at least 6...
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