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Post by ironwarrior on Aug 8, 2017 4:50:54 GMT -5
Not often I post, but, after ticketing this problem and getting the copy and paste reply, I'm asking here.
Since the event update, has anyone else noticed how broken the MM is?
I'm in silver 1, managed to get to gold 3. Event arrives and I dove down to precipice of going into silver 2. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a sore loser and I'm not too bad as a pilot, but dropping that far, that quick needed investigating.
So, once I managed to get a few trophies back to get me away from the drop zone, I had a look at the profiles of some of my team mates/opponents. The expletives that left my mouth were loud and many when I saw, on the opposing team, a player from diamond league! 「whiskey tango foxtrot」! Thinking that this was, perhaps a one off I kept looking. This is what I have found!
The majority of players I have been matched with have been from gold league. It's not often I find players from my own league in my matches. In fact, the range of players go from silver 3 all the way to diamond!
Now, I'm struggling to progress. Where games used to last for quite awhile, I'm dead within 2 mins. Not from bad piloting, but level 8 bots don't last long against lvl12 Griffin's/Galahad's/Leos/ancilots! Now, before anyone moans, I do pay for premium service, and as soon as I have sorted out finances, I might spend more on the game. BUT not when the MM is really unfair.
Has anyone else noticed this issue?
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Post by Heishiro on Aug 8, 2017 4:54:57 GMT -5
agree with you. i believe there's no much players so MM just grab anyone that is available just to make a complete team. im in champion league and im seeing diamond to champions getting mix matches.
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Post by wildboar on Aug 8, 2017 4:55:25 GMT -5
Oh yes ... if your win rate% is too high you will get unbalanced match ups ... pushed towards 50% as your win rate drops your match ups will become more favourable
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 5:10:16 GMT -5
Nothing new, always been this way. Your luck will get better. And then it will get worse. And then it will improve again.
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 8, 2017 7:54:30 GMT -5
Pixonic has expanded the Player search parameters to compensate for the Tankers (a Player that has manipulated their Score to gain entry to a lower League) which are artificially inflating the lower League(s) numbers.
It's unfair in most cases, I agree.
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Post by T34 on Aug 8, 2017 8:12:48 GMT -5
Pixonic has expanded the Player search parameters to compensate for the Tankers (a Player that has manipulated their Score to gain entry to a lower League) which are artificially inflating the lower League(s) numbers. It's unfair in most cases, I agree. Not sure if that makes sense as a tanker will simply drop lower into say bronze and the MM gives system assisted tanking to champs and masters by mixing in lower leagues.
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Post by lindenwood on Aug 8, 2017 8:28:46 GMT -5
Might just be a bad streak. It took me 2 hours last night just to win 3 games to finish my daily task. I have dropped over 200 league points in 48 hours, and this is the second time this happened to me. But yes, I was in Gold 1, and the other day after an aggregious loss I checked and found the next lowest player was Diamond 2, and the other 10 ranged up to Expert 2! I am down in Gold 2 with the peons now, though .
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 8, 2017 8:35:11 GMT -5
It's just a number. I made it as far as Gold 2 and then dropped almost back to Silver 1. Am holding steady at Gold 3 right now. Just play for fun. Don't worry too much about what league you're in. These days, I'm just focusing on getting some secondary weapons up to level 7, and getting all the bots I like to use to at least 7. My Gareth is my highest bot right now at 8, with level 7 Ork and level 8 Pinata. I went from a 64% win rate to 48 - 50% win rate.
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Post by ironwarrior on Aug 8, 2017 8:56:59 GMT -5
Update: Just had a few games when I came up I had a seriously high damage score (for my level, over 700k in damage is high). I checked the opposing team who were all in bronze (bar one who was in gold).
In answer to a previous comment, I was enjoying myself until game time averaged under 3 mins of play with nothing to show except a drop in trophy's.
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 8, 2017 9:23:20 GMT -5
Pixonic has expanded the Player search parameters to compensate for the Tankers (a Player that has manipulated their Score to gain entry to a lower League) which are artificially inflating the lower League(s) numbers. It's unfair in most cases, I agree. Not sure if that makes sense as a tanker will simply drop lower into say bronze and the MM gives system assisted tanking to champs and masters by mixing in lower leagues. Pixonic acknowledges that the lower Leagues are abnormally high because some Players are deliberately placing themselves in the lower Leagues. Pixonic expanded the Player search to compensate for the lack +Gold League Players due to the [Tanking] decrease in Player availability.
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Post by adrenachrome on Aug 8, 2017 12:19:13 GMT -5
Not often I post, but, after ticketing this problem and getting the copy and paste reply, I'm asking here. Since the event update, has anyone else noticed how broken the MM is? I'm in silver 1, managed to get to gold 3. Event arrives and I dove down to precipice of going into silver 2. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a sore loser and I'm not too bad as a pilot, but dropping that far, that quick needed investigating. So, once I managed to get a few trophies back to get me away from the drop zone, I had a look at the profiles of some of my team mates/opponents. The expletives that left my mouth were loud and many when I saw, on the opposing team, a player from diamond league! 「whiskey tango foxtrot」! Thinking that this was, perhaps a one off I kept looking. This is what I have found! The majority of players I have been matched with have been from gold league. It's not often I find players from my own league in my matches. In fact, the range of players go from silver 3 all the way to diamond! Now, I'm struggling to progress. Where games used to last for quite awhile, I'm dead within 2 mins. Not from bad piloting, but level 8 bots don't last long against lvl12 Griffin's/Galahad's/Leos/ancilots! Now, before anyone moans, I do pay for premium service, and as soon as I have sorted out finances, I might spend more on the game. BUT not when the MM is really unfair. Has anyone else noticed this issue?
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Post by adrenachrome on Aug 8, 2017 12:20:15 GMT -5
Hope this helps^^^^^^^^
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Post by ironwarrior on Aug 9, 2017 3:48:41 GMT -5
That's the same copy and paste reply I got. In fact, I remember something similar in an update explanation.
In my understanding, the league system put similar level people together. By adjusting to +/- 4 league levels as made it back into a "you lower levels just fight it out, we're only interested in those that coin heavily in expert" mentality imho
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Aug 9, 2017 3:56:04 GMT -5
Expert-Champions is a single big pool. At low tide, you actually get thrown in that pool even if you are simply a diamond.
Been like this since a few months, welcome to the slaughterhouse.
I'd be really curious to see pix's statistics on player retention and average longevity over the last year.
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Post by rigpig0378 on Aug 9, 2017 7:47:31 GMT -5
Yep. I also have taken some severe kickings from Diamond 2 and 1 when I was in Gold 2. At 1 point my win rate was 28%...... I have been on a roller coaster for a good few months now. Spent a reasonable amount of pounds on this game and got nowhere:-) I realise I am 「dookie」e at the game even after 6 months continuous play. The last time I gamed seriously was on the PlayStation 1. So I might be a bit rusty.... But MM has been harsh these last few weeks. Stomped by diamond league clan mates was a regular occurrence during the afore mentioned. run. Couldn't do a 「fluffernutter」ing thing about it.
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Post by stokr on Aug 9, 2017 10:54:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty happy at Diamond 2. I generally see a range of Gold 1 to Expert 3 in my matches, which seems a solid range to me. Sure, I see things like a Gold 3 hangar in the mix (once a Silver 1 - bet they were pissed. I thought it was a fader at first 'til I looked at the profile), but it's uncommon at best.
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Post by ironwarrior on Aug 9, 2017 19:09:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty happy at Diamond 2. I generally see a range of Gold 1 to Expert 3 in my matches, which seems a solid range to me. Sure, I see things like a Gold 3 hangar in the mix (once a Silver 1 - bet they were pissed. I thought it was a fader at first 'til I looked at the profile), but it's uncommon at best. Unfortunately for me, more and more diamond league are appearing in matches. I even a 3 strong squad from diamond league in a match. Yes, I was pissed lol.
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Post by valoricus on Aug 10, 2017 6:47:04 GMT -5
I played a bizarre game the other day where my team was composed of myself at gold 3 with the a few in the lower gold leagues and two at Diamond 3 I believe. However, the opponents were around diamond 2 all the way to Expert 3. Not a fun game.
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