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Post by viruletic on Jan 2, 2017 13:44:09 GMT -5
I'm level 28, mostly playing a lot of low bronze thunder shutze so I could farm resources for a decent hangar to move into High Bronze/Silver.
Well I finally got a hangar line up based on the MM requirements, HOWEVER, no matter what I do I can't seem to get into High bronze consistently without putting my shutzes back in, and I don't do to well. I look at the combinations that other pilots have and put those on, but it throws me into low silver and I end up being weak, again.
Occasionally my hangar works in high bronze, but usually I'm thrown up to lown silver. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
My occasional high bronze hangar is:
2x Boa 4/6/7
1x Vityaz 4/6/7
1x Gepard 2/6
Win rate 92%
I saw a lot of 6/5 heavies with that hangar, so I buy a 6/5 griffin, and immediately I face level 12 weapons. Im stuck between tiers and I don't know what to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 13:51:34 GMT -5
Sell the griffin, with that 92% win rate, you're kicked up to high silver.
A 4 / 12 gepard can be put into low silver so I assume you're seeing those?
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Post by viruletic on Jan 2, 2017 13:58:11 GMT -5
Sell the griffin, with that 92% win rate, you're kicked up to high silver. A 4 / 12 gepard can be put into low silver so I assume you're seeing those? That's exactly what I'm seeing, 4/12 mag or aphid griffins and a lot of 8/8 heavies. Should I just intentionally drop my win rate to stay in High Bronze and move to low silver? |
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Post by rags on Jan 2, 2017 14:09:36 GMT -5
Sell the griffin, with that 92% win rate, you're kicked up to high silver. A 4 / 12 gepard can be put into low silver so I assume you're seeing those? That's exactly what I'm seeing, 4/12 mag or aphid griffins and a lot of 8/8 heavies. Should I just intentionally drop my win rate to stay in High Bronze and move to low silver? Move up to silver. Level 6 weapons are good enough. |
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Post by Flukey*Lukey on Jan 2, 2017 14:27:56 GMT -5
It is likely your high win rate plus level 7 weapons, also time of day can affect it as low player base = bad MM
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Post by jckidd on Jan 2, 2017 14:59:20 GMT -5
Work on getting weapons up to lvl 8. I am running 4/8 mediums and lights and getting a steady stream of gold. Slowly moving weapons to nine
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 15:29:04 GMT -5
Sell the griffin, with that 92% win rate, you're kicked up to high silver. A 4 / 12 gepard can be put into low silver so I assume you're seeing those? That's exactly what I'm seeing, 4/12 mag or aphid griffins and a lot of 8/8 heavies. Should I just intentionally drop my win rate to stay in High Bronze and move to low silver? 4 / 12 Gepards are the normal ones. 8 / 8 Heavies is low / mid gold though... You should get rid of that griffin to stay in low silver. |
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Post by gladiator84 on Jan 2, 2017 15:51:31 GMT -5
So there are a couple of things to consider:
1. Your 4/6/7 Boas/Vityaz are weighted at about 510 points but your 2/6 Gerard is weighted at 285 meaning it is seriously outgunned. A 3/11 or 5/10 light is weighted at 505 so my recommendation is upgrade that Geps weapons.
2. Your win rate will bump you up by 10% meaning those Boas and Vityaz are really weighted at 560 and the matchmaker will grab players within 150 ppints of you which is 710. That puts you against 4/12 mediums and 6/7 heavies.
2. What are your actual loadouts? Basically, are your bots configured for close, medium, or long range? This is important because as a general rule, close range weapons are more powerful. If all of your bots are setup for longe range then that alone could explain your low scores. Outfit those Boas with Thunder/Taran. Thunder/Magnum for the Vityaz. Triple Magnum for the Gep. I also like Pinata/Orkan in place of Mag/Taran.
3. You might try out the Golem, more damage output with less health. Boas are tough but slow and damage output could be better.
4. Save for that 5th hanger slot. This allows you to play aggressively since it basically gives you extra lives.
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Post by zman on Jan 2, 2017 16:01:40 GMT -5
Your Win rate is almost always bumping you up to the next tier.
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Post by Cyklown on Jan 3, 2017 0:53:59 GMT -5
I'm level 28, mostly playing a lot of low bronze thunder shutze so I could farm resources for a decent hangar to move into High Bronze/Silver. Well I finally got a hangar line up based on the MM requirements, HOWEVER, no matter what I do I can't seem to get into High bronze consistently without putting my shutzes back in, and I don't do to well. I look at the combinations that other pilots have and put those on, but it throws me into low silver and I end up being weak, again. Occasionally my hangar works in high bronze, but usually I'm thrown up to lown silver. Is there something I'm doing wrong? My occasional high bronze hangar is: 2x Boa 4/6/7 1x Vityaz 4/6/7 1x Gepard 2/6 Win rate 92% I saw a lot of 6/5 heavies with that hangar, so I buy a 6/5 griffin, and immediately I face level 12 weapons. Im stuck between tiers and I don't know what to do. There is no more "silver" or "high bronze". Bots have a set value based on type, level and weapon level with modifiers for things like win rate and WSP/britbot usage. At 92% the game is simply going to make sure you're always outgunned. Sorry! |
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Post by viruletic on Jan 3, 2017 3:33:18 GMT -5
Update: I'm still seeing heavies in all of my matches for a full day, even with 4x shutze 2/6. I truly think the matchmaking just has it out for me.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 3, 2017 3:41:02 GMT -5
Update: I'm still seeing heavies in all of my matches for a full day, even with 4x shutze 2/6. I truly think the matchmaking just has it out for me. No, that's normal. L 2/6 is very close to H 6/1. |
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 3, 2017 8:10:22 GMT -5
My occasional high bronze hangar is: 2x Boa 4/6/7 1x Vityaz 4/6/7 1x Gepard 2/6 Win rate 92% 3/6 is the limit for bronze, so your Boas and Vityaz are pushing you into silver, with that high win rate it's better to go for 2/6. Chances are that you have level 1 robots from the snowflakes event, so use them and upgrade them to level 2. (If not then get some - do open only one box per game restart, see other threads. I got tons of Vityaz, Boa, Golem and Pattons this way, sold most of them.) The Gepard OTOH should be upgraded. Focus on weapons, as the hull upgrades do little for the Gepard. But yeah, IMO playing silver is way more fun. Might be less gold per battle, but I don't mind spending the occasional equivalent of a Starbucks coffee on the game. My win rate is usually between 70% and 80% with a 2-3/6-7 mediums, 4/7 Gepards (I have a Galahad whose bonus pushes me to silver). |
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 3, 2017 8:12:57 GMT -5
Update: I'm still seeing heavies in all of my matches for a full day, even with 4x shutze 2/6. I truly think the matchmaking just has it out for me. Nobody knows how much the win rate affects the matchmaking. Maybe a really high win rate can push you up quite a bit. |
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Post by 《₩hirl》 on Jan 3, 2017 9:53:06 GMT -5
Also, keep in mind the +-150point default bracket. No matter what you do, you will always be outgunned, maybe by lesser pilots, but someone's always gonna have better stuff than you too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 15:19:56 GMT -5
Keep in mind that the Christmas event is just ending, so many players have tanked win-rates. Currently you could go so far as 1/1 Ag lights and still see 6/1-6/3 heavy bots. Many, MANY, medium and heavy hangars are down to the 30-49 percentile ranges in win-rate, and it will take a week or so of people playing the objective of the game instead of damage racing for MM to normalize.
A great deal of Gep hangars were only out and about to farm snowflakes, those that aren't regular/new-ish clubbers will probably start returning to their high silver/Gold tier lineups.
With a 92% win-rate, you're guaranteed to see stronger opposition, as it's speculated that the LEAST win rate can contribute, at max, to your placement, is about 20%.
My suggestion would be for you to start upgrading your weapons/ag lights to 7-8 if you're done grinding, as at 7/7-8/8 you'll be at the edge of high bronze/low silver and your win percentage won't be as inflated by the time you get to those levels. (Average non-clubber win rate is 60-70%). Once you get all of your desired weapons, to those levels, you can play around with them on lv 4 ag mediums until you get the Au/WSP bots of yout choosing. Once you get your Au/Wsp bots and have ALL of your active weapons to 7, you can get your Au/Wsp mediums to 6/8(safe) or 7/8(border) and use 6/7 heavies in high silver. High silver will give you a taste of Gold Tier play every now and then, but 6/8 penalty bots and 6/7 heavies should keep you there most of the time.
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