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Post by Joopiter on Jul 24, 2017 14:09:52 GMT -5
Hi my name is Joopiter, my account is Evil Koala.
When I started I watched some beginner youtube videos to get a rough strategy and do's/don'ts. Now I'm about 3-4 months in and played real well over the event and saved a ton of gold and silver, but I feel like i sped through Silver league. Now I'm barely surviving in Gold III so I figured I better join a forum and learn more so I can stop the bleeding. Currently I don't have a bad hangar, but the Gold II and III folks that I'm getting matched with have an edge on me when I look at their stuff post match.
Here's currently what i'm running:
9 Rog, 9s Tarans
6 Leo, 7s Pins, 8 Thunder
9 Gareth, 8 Orkan, 7 Mag
7 Galahad, 8 Taran, 7 Mags
Others in inventory:
6 Griff, 7s molots, molots mk2
6 Gepard, 7s Pinatas
1 Lance, 3s Ork, 3 Ancile (leveling this now)
6 Natasha (blaze) from event
About to get my 5th slot and move the Griffon to hangar.
Anywho, I look forward to learning from everyone and hopefully contributing.
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Post by dangit on Jul 24, 2017 15:12:43 GMT -5
Joopiter welcome to the forum. Lot of great people here to answer your questions or offer advice. Plus I bet you have some great knowledge to share also. Enjoy. ?
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Post by piginapoke on Jul 25, 2017 3:11:45 GMT -5
Hello Joopiter (jupiter) Post your hanger on the "tips and advice" section. I am sure that lots of people will be able to offer insight. Have you tried the rog with Orkans (you need to level them up a bit) You can then try the tarans on the Lancilot and see if it is a good fit. |
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jul 25, 2017 3:20:40 GMT -5
Hello Joopiter (jupiter) Post your hanger on the "tips and advice" section. I am sure that lots of people will be able to offer insight. Have you tried the rog with Orkans (you need to level them up a bit) You can then try the tarans on the Lancilot and see if it is a good fit. This. Took the words right outa my mouth. Meatloaf would be proud. Taran Ancile Lancelot (Tarancilot) is pretty useful even when the bot and Ancile levels are still lowish. Orkans are mor useful on Rogatka than Tarans, simply because you can shoot around corners more with the small splash damage of the rockets. And as you have experienced in your current league, this is the main adjustment you need to make to hang with the next level of players. Focus on building setups that can deal damage without receiving any, particularly if you're finding yourself outmatched. |
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jul 25, 2017 3:30:22 GMT -5
Hi my name is Joopiter, my account is Evil Koala. When I started I watched some beginner youtube videos to get a rough strategy and do's/don'ts. Now I'm about 3-4 months in and played real well over the event and saved a ton of gold and silver, but I feel like i sped through Silver league. Now I'm barely surviving in Gold III so I figured I better join a forum and learn more so I can stop the bleeding. Currently I don't have a bad hangar, but the Gold II and III folks that I'm getting matched with have an edge on me when I look at their stuff post match. Here's currently what i'm running: 9 Rog, 9s Tarans 6 Leo, 7s Pins, 8 Thunder 9 Gareth, 8 Orkan, 7 Mag 7 Galahad, 8 Taran, 7 Mags Others in inventory: 6 Griff, 7s molots, molots mk2 6 Gepard, 7s Pinatas 1 Lance, 3s Ork, 3 Ancile (leveling this now) 6 Natasha (blaze) from event About to get my 5th slot and move the Griffon to hangar. Anywho, I look forward to learning from everyone and hopefully contributing. Are they pins or Pinatas on the Leo? You should match pins with a Trident, or Pinatas with the Thunder. That way you can play the Leo as a knife fighter at <300m, or play him midrange between 350 and 500m. Mixed range setups just aren't so effective in the long term. You could always buy another Griffin and put the pins together with Tulumbus to build an Russian Death Button (RDB) Griffin setup. This is one of THE most effective setups in the game right now, even after the 2.9.2 update. You could also afford to have a little bit more midrange equipment in your hangar. You'll find you'll particularly rely on it when you start getting smashed by high level players who have tanked down to the lower leagues. Plus they don't cost any Gold or WSP  Any further questions, don't hesitate to shoot them thru. |
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Post by K A Z on Jul 25, 2017 4:24:29 GMT -5
6 Leo, 7s Pins, 8 Thunder Are they pins or Pinatas on the Leo? You should match pins with a Trident, or Pinatas with the Thunder. That way you can play the Leo as a knife fighter at <300m, or play him midrange between 350 and 500m. Mixed range setups just aren't so effective in the long term. Pin setup is imo a better idea. I would not call it mixing the ranges, but an Ancilot counter. Thunder peels off the Ancile nicely even at 450-500m and once done, those 3 pins can chew the yummy crab meat. All in all, as long as you stay at proper distance of 350-500m (300-500 if ancilot is trading orks) you can get the job done with minimal damage. On the other hand, if you go under 300m with unshielded Pinata Leo, everyone looks at you as if you were...well, a "pinata"...and all the sticks (plasma, bullets, rockets...you name it) turn your direction to promptly convert your little Leo into a smoking pile of molten metal and cash in the hefty Ag bill for once-Leo's rich HP pool. |
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jul 25, 2017 5:07:42 GMT -5
Are they pins or Pinatas on the Leo? You should match pins with a Trident, or Pinatas with the Thunder. That way you can play the Leo as a knife fighter at <300m, or play him midrange between 350 and 500m. Mixed range setups just aren't so effective in the long term. Pin setup is imo a better idea. I would no call it mixing the ranges but Ancilot counter. Thunder peels off the Ancile nicely even at 450-500m and once done, those 3 pins can chew the yummy crab meat. All in all, as long as you stay at proper distance of 350-500m (300-500 if ancilot is trading orks) you can get the job done with minimal damage. On the other hand, if you go under 300m with unshielded Pinata Leo, everyone looks at you like if you were...a "pinata"...and all the sticks (plasma, bullets, rockets...you name it) turn your direction to promptly convert your little Leo into a smoking pile of molten metal and cash in the hefty Ag bill for once-Leo's rich HP pool. Do you run a Leo? I ran one for 7 months before I bought a Fury in a 'sale' 2 weeks ago. I ran the Thunder Mag setup and it was my go to bot for taking down Ancilots. I just think the Pins are too weak. You can't really hope to take an Ancilot down by yourself with this setup, not without wasting a lot of time and losing too much territory. I try to be a self sufficient player as much as possible and I look for setups that don't rely too much on your teammates who may be tanking or fading. At least with Pinatas you can use the Leo's high HP pool to take a small beating to unleash the Pinatas, before retreating back to cover in order to reload for the next salvo. Against plasma setups you can also cornershoot very effectively with the two light hardpoints on the right side. I always do this in my Thunder Mag Leo, especially against Tarancilots and Plasmahads. By the time they reach you they are weakened, and you can unleash 10 Thunder blasts point blank to the FACE. The main fear of Leo pilots are DB Griffin and Thunder Carnage. If you get flanked by one of these, it doesn't really matter how big your HP pool is. Large HP pools should never make you deviate from sound, strategic play. |
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Post by K A Z on Jul 25, 2017 5:45:04 GMT -5
Pin setup is imo a better idea. I would no call it mixing the ranges but Ancilot counter. Thunder peels off the Ancile nicely even at 450-500m and once done, those 3 pins can chew the yummy crab meat. All in all, as long as you stay at proper distance of 350-500m (300-500 if ancilot is trading orks) you can get the job done with minimal damage. On the other hand, if you go under 300m with unshielded Pinata Leo, everyone looks at you like if you were...a "pinata"...and all the sticks (plasma, bullets, rockets...you name it) turn your direction to promptly convert your little Leo into a smoking pile of molten metal and cash in the hefty Ag bill for once-Leo's rich HP pool. Do you run a Leo? I ran one for 7 months before I bought a Fury in a 'sale' 2 weeks ago. I ran the Thunder Mag setup and it was my go to bot for taking down Ancilots. I just think the Pins are too weak. You can't really hope to take an Ancilot down by yourself with this setup, not without wasting a lot of time and losing too much territory. I try to be a self sufficient player as much as possible and I look for setups that don't rely too much on your teammates who may be tanking or fading. At least with Pinatas you can use the Leo's high HP pool to take a small beating to unleash the Pinatas, before retreating back to cover in order to reload for the next salvo. Against plasma setups you can also cornershoot very effectively with the two light hardpoints on the right side. I always do this in my Thunder Mag Leo, especially against Tarancilots and Plasmahads. By the time they reach you they are weakened, and you can unleash 10 Thunder blasts point blank to the FACE. The main fear of Leo pilots are DB Griffin and Thunder Carnage. If you get flanked by one of these, it doesn't really matter how big your HP pool is. Large HP pools should never make you deviate from sound, strategic play. I get your point here and no I did not run Leo much - was dying too fast for me even with the HP pool. I've tried Aphid based and plasma based versions. For short-distance engagements, the Griff with it's mobility and output was the choice, while Tashy proved more potent for MR. Pins are still a beast imo. My single RDB takes down +/- 50% of HP pool of Lance if it's not under ancile. Leo with 3 pins has roughly 60% of RDB output (if we exclude Thunder from the equation), so 3-4 salvos may be needed. Plasma setup for Leo that you just mentioned is again more practical than pinata. Pinata at 300m puts you in a really bad place, where you get in problem if exposed to any plasma setup driven by even semi-aware pilot. No jump, low speed and 50m missing to plasma is a bad combo. I could argue if the Pin+Thunder or Mag+Thunder is better, but Pinata is inferior to both imo. Edit: All in all big, slow bots like that one, pilot needs at least one of following factors in place: team support, range, shields, jump. If you go with shortest range setup and have no emergency way out nor range to keep you at safe distance...you do need a lot of team support to stay alive...just my 0.02$ |
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