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Post by truechill on Dec 30, 2016 7:41:30 GMT -5
Is it worth spending AU on workshop points or no. If so how much?
Edit: My thoughts after reading what everyone said.
Spending AU on workshop points is situational. If you choose to buy WP for AU then usually only the first 2-4 daily purchases are ideal.
If you have an easy time winning gold then the 1st couple daily purchases can be an efficient purchase (when comparing time it takes to earn gold vs workshop points)
For newer players the first couple daily AU for WP purchases can be beneficial since adding powerful weapons like Tarans, Mags, sooner can help you win more matches.
For people who have been playing for a while that already have key WP weapons/bots, spending AU for WP less beneficial.
For Casual players buying WP with AU will probably be less beneficial since you can earn WP passively. (though it may take a really long time to get dank items)
Debatable point: End game you are likely to have excess WP but not excess AU. Things that are really powerful can only be obtained with Gold and they are really expensive, Lancelot, furry, 5th hanger slot. In the long run saving gold might be better but buying a bit of WP may help you get items to farm gold faster... ...
Thanks again everyone.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 30, 2016 7:47:50 GMT -5
Is it worth spending AU on workshop points or no. If so how much? yeah id say it is. I go for the first 4 purchases, but thats just becaise i play frequently. For casual players id go for the first 2 purchases (5 & 8g)
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 30, 2016 7:52:01 GMT -5
Why bother? You can just wait the time and get it legit rather than spending gold on it, thats if you dont play a lot
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Dec 30, 2016 7:54:15 GMT -5
It's not worth it. Save your gold for Orkans, Hangar Slots, Upgrades, ect.
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Post by kchan4487 on Dec 30, 2016 8:16:23 GMT -5
IMO Not worth it. Even if you don't play a lot, you get to earn it anyway when you're off doing something else.
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Post by The Violator on Dec 30, 2016 9:07:56 GMT -5
I buy the first 5 purchases. Costs around 70 gold but with that and what I make in 24 hours I pump out over 1100 a day. I will note that I'm a lvl 15 in wsp so I don't get any bonus wsp so it's very worthwhile to me. Plus 70 gold isn't much anyhow.
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Post by kchan4487 on Dec 30, 2016 9:24:24 GMT -5
I buy the first 5 purchases. Costs around 70 gold but with that and what I make in 24 hours I pump out over 1100 a day. I will note that I'm a lvl 15 in wsp so I don't get any bonus wsp so it's very worthwhile to me. Plus 70 gold isn't much anyhow. Is there another Waspinator apart from the Beast Wars guy?
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 30, 2016 9:51:24 GMT -5
I'm finding that supplying workshop points to feed my hangar is proving far slower than the speed I am generating gold. At the moment I'm quite happy buying the 5 gold amount but the 8 gold is tempting too. I'm probably earning 100 to 400 gold a day (including snowflake rewards) for comparison.
Think of it this way: It takes 4 hours to gain 85 points of WSP If you're decent at your craft you can get 15 gold in 20 minutes which would would happily buy the 5 gold and 8 gold amount, leaving you with a time profit of 3.6 hours.
If you can consistently earn gold and still haven't fully equipped your hanger then it's worth getting 5 gold and 8 gold. If you've already equipped your hangar with enough magnums/tarans then you can slow down.
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Post by RightOn on Dec 30, 2016 11:04:35 GMT -5
If you dont need your AU or you need WP more you can convert the Au from daily objectives into about 500 more WP. I think its like 1150 a day if you do that.
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Post by jazzykat on Dec 30, 2016 11:10:47 GMT -5
I guess it depends on how long you want to wait but for me it is much harder to get gold together than to get WSP. Also, beyond mags and tarans you probably want a rhino, and/or some Tridents. However, I don't know anyone who doesn't want a Galahad, an Orkan or APHIDS. Also if you get the Tridents then sooner or later you are going to "need" the Fury. I used to buy WSPs with gold and then I had to save for my 5th slot and I said never again!
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Post by petevb on Dec 30, 2016 12:24:10 GMT -5
I'd try to limit your gold spending- in the long run Gold is much more valuable and harder to come by than WSP.
I'm sitting on over 130k WSP that I have little use for. Not just because I have multiples of everything, but because the best bots in Top tier are currently not WSP bots. Fury, Galahad, Griffin and Patton (Aphids) rule top tier. You'll want lots of WSP weapons (Tridents, Plasma) but in the long run you'll be limited by silver to upgrade most of all, followed by Gold to buy and speed upgrades (when silver allows).
Given this I would only upgrade your "keeper" weapons and bots above 8, and choose those carefully. Spending your WSP wisely should help you limit your need to purchase. I did buy quite a bit in the beginning; probably still should have bought but a little less in hindsight.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Dec 30, 2016 13:08:36 GMT -5
From a top end perspective, save the gold. I always recommend a minimum of 4 Orkans for a hangar (6 is preferable). There are so many many shield bots out there you need a solid amount of splash.
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Post by petevb on Dec 30, 2016 13:33:07 GMT -5
I always recommend a minimum of 4 Orkans for a hangar (6 is preferable). Debatable depending on the bots you run. Since the Orkan nerf I'd go for Galahad (plasma) before Orkan when prioritizing my gold. I have 6 maxed Orkan, currently more than half the time I don't run any... Of course when I don't run them I have other splash in... 6x tridents much of the time.
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Post by The Violator on Dec 30, 2016 13:33:21 GMT -5
I buy the first 5 purchases. Costs around 70 gold but with that and what I make in 24 hours I pump out over 1100 a day. I will note that I'm a lvl 15 in wsp so I don't get any bonus wsp so it's very worthwhile to me. Plus 70 gold isn't much anyhow. Is there another Waspinator apart from the Beast Wars guy? Not that I know of. In the game on android there is a Waspinator and Waspinator BWars. I'm the latter
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Post by The Violator on Dec 30, 2016 13:58:53 GMT -5
It honestly just depends on what you bring in and what you need. Gold comes easy to me so spending 73 gold for 600 wsp each day isn't an issue. I still need tarans and tridents so to me it's worth it. Especially since without bonuses, the occasional wsp daily, or purchases you will only make 510 wsp per 24 hours. I double the daily output in 30-45 minutes of playing. Then my dailys reimburse me for a lot of it anyway.
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Post by jazzykat on Dec 30, 2016 15:39:30 GMT -5
I always recommend a minimum of 4 Orkans for a hangar (6 is preferable). Debatable depending on the bots you run. Since the Orkan nerf I'd go for Galahad (plasma) before Orkan when prioritizing my gold. I have 6 maxed Orkan, currently more than half the time I don't run any... Of course when I don't run them I have other splash in... 6x tridents much of the time. When were Orkans nerfed?
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Post by petevb on Dec 30, 2016 15:54:41 GMT -5
Debatable depending on the bots you run. Since the Orkan nerf I'd go for Galahad (plasma) before Orkan when prioritizing my gold. I have 6 maxed Orkan, currently more than half the time I don't run any... Of course when I don't run them I have other splash in... 6x tridents much of the time. When were Orkans nerfed? The main one was a few months ago. Lower splash radius, harder to hit a moving target. Easier to avoid them by running away.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Dec 30, 2016 17:20:22 GMT -5
I've been playing about a year and half I'd say and I used to purchase up to the 8 Au for WSP daily for the first year. I haven't purchased WSP with Au since early this year.
I currently hold over 150K WSP and slightly over 45K Au (none purchased with real money). At this point, I'd say that if you plan on playing this game for even just 1 year or so, you need not worry about either WSP or Au, since both are free and there's not really a long list of WSP or Au items that "must haves" that would deplete either resource.
Just as long as you don't speed up upgrades or buy stuff you see on YouTube that is not recommended or stuff that doesn't work on the test servers, then you'll always be flush with WSP, Au, and Silver.
I never purchased the Raijin, Fujin, multiples of Trebs, or went overboard on Rhinos or Carnages, so all my resources never got depleted by buying and upgrading excess stuff.
So if think you like the game and want to say around, you'll get everything with just normal amounts of play and earning free Au and WSP.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 30, 2016 17:26:28 GMT -5
At this point, I'd say that if you plan on playing this game for even just 1 year or so, you need not worry about either WSP or Au, since both are free and there's not really a long list of WSP or Au items that "must haves" that would deplete either resource. JUST 1 year XD. Its fine for us to say that, but im sure there are many players that arent that commited to the game .
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Dec 30, 2016 18:17:42 GMT -5
At this point, I'd say that if you plan on playing this game for even just 1 year or so, you need not worry about either WSP or Au, since both are free and there's not really a long list of WSP or Au items that "must haves" that would deplete either resource. JUST 1 year XD. Its fine for us to say that, but im sure there are many players that arent that commited to the game . This game is kinda easy to like and easy to commit to. Games like Clash of Clans punish you for walking away from the game (like when you go on vacation). This game is great in that the stuff you've built up is always there and that you never lose it. The time I've been on this game has passed quickly. I don't feel that there's an urge to keep up with your neighbors with this game too.
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Post by truechill on Dec 30, 2016 19:22:20 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. There were a lot of great answers with explanations/justifications for different choices. Good community is good.
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Post by The Violator on Dec 30, 2016 19:37:07 GMT -5
At this point, I'd say that if you plan on playing this game for even just 1 year or so, you need not worry about either WSP or Au, since both are free and there's not really a long list of WSP or Au items that "must haves" that would deplete either resource. JUST 1 year XD. Its fine for us to say that, but im sure there are many players that arent that commited to the game . I agree with you. It also doesn't mean we want to wait to get things anyway. Without new maps it can get dull so folks wanna buy new toys.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 30, 2016 21:59:03 GMT -5
I've been playing about a year and half I'd say and I used to purchase up to the 8 Au for WSP daily for the first year. I haven't purchased WSP with Au since early this year. I currently hold over 150K WSP and slightly over 45K Au (none purchased with real money). At this point, I'd say that if you plan on playing this game for even just 1 year or so, you need not worry about either WSP or Au, since both are free and there's not really a long list of WSP or Au items that "must haves" that would deplete either resource. Just as long as you don't speed up upgrades or buy stuff you see on YouTube that is not recommended or stuff that doesn't work on the test servers, then you'll always be flush with WSP, Au, and Silver. I never purchased the Raijin, Fujin, multiples of Trebs, or went overboard on Rhinos or Carnages, so all my resources never got depleted by buying and upgrading excess stuff. So if think you like the game and want to say around, you'll get everything with just normal amounts of play and earning free Au and WSP. Well since you have 150k WSP, why not give the bots you didnt buy a try and have fun with some setups? This is a game and you shouldnt treat in-game currenices with this much care, really exhausting IMO xD, I heard Raijin with Anciles is quite fun lol
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 30, 2016 22:06:38 GMT -5
I heard Raijin with Anciles is quite fun lol getting shot and not being able to shoot back isn't exactly my idea of fun, but its fun when you have squadmates that can do the shooting for you .
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 31, 2016 1:16:13 GMT -5
I think the guys who have already played the game for long enough (and are in gold), have forgotten the scramble to arm up once you just turn level 20. All your punishers and molots are being replaced by Tarans/Magnums. Kwks/Kangs getting replaced by tridents.
You need need about 4 of each which amounts to 37,000 wsp or 68 days worth of normal wsp collection. That's a long time be a relying on punishers, molots, tulus and pinatas while MagGeps are melting your face. Buying the first two points will reduce your wait time to 54 days, which isn't great but better...
Next comes the preparations to enter gold, lots more hurry up and wait there. The reality is you spend a long time in silver, unfortunately the time spent getting all your weapons up to level 8 takes a looooooooooooooooooong time.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Dec 31, 2016 1:42:43 GMT -5
I think the guys who have already played the game for long enough (and are in gold), have forgotten the scramble to arm up once you just turn level 20. All your punishers and molots are being replaced by Tarans/Magnums. Kwks/Kangs getting replaced by tridents. You need need about 4 of each which amounts to 37,000 wsp or 68 days worth of normal wsp collection. That's a long time be a relying on punishers, molots, tulus and pinatas while MagGeps are melting your face. Buying the first two points will reduce your wait time to 54 days, which isn't great but better... Next comes the preparations to enter gold, lots more hurry up and wait there. The reality is you spend a long time in silver, unfortunately the time spent getting all your weapons up to level 8 takes a looooooooooooooooooong time. I just stayed in low Bronze with a hangar of 4/6 Thunder Schutzes until my main hangar hit top tier --- this took a solid year. Oh, I did bring out my main hangar between then, but there wasn't much point, as you don't learn much from high bronze to high gold other than that setups useless in top tier rule up to high silver and everything in between are the "trash gold" tiers that MM creates. The funny thing is that IMO the little Thunder Schutze prepares you better for top tier than grinding your way through the tiers to get to top tier. I thank the Tri-mag Gepard pilots for making the 4/6 Thunder Schutze experience very educational. Piloting an underpowered and fragile bot that requires you to get under 100m to do damage teaches you strategy, timing, gunning, and patience --- cause you have to use all of that to fight Tri-mags and Aphid carriers with the Schutze in bronze. I know how I played it is repetitious, but it got me to where I wanted to get to and I had time to assess what works and what doesn't by slow playing the game. So I haven't forgotten how long it takes to build WSP and Au --- my whole approach to the game acknowledges that it takes a long time. I just decided that the goal was worth more than the journey.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 31, 2016 2:06:25 GMT -5
I just decided that the goal was worth more than the journey. pretty sure this is the mindset of every player that clubs in bronze (including me not too long ago). After you have played a reasonable amount in silver tier, there really isnt much else for you to learn to develop into gold. Players that develop their silver hangars to extreme lengths (4/12 geps, 4/9 rogs) simply prefer playing in silver as opposed to gold i believe.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 31, 2016 4:30:03 GMT -5
I heard Raijin with Anciles is quite fun lol getting shot and not being able to shoot back isn't exactly my idea of fun, but its fun when you have squadmates that can do the shooting for you . Yea what I meant, who uses them solo anyway?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 31, 2016 4:31:07 GMT -5
getting shot and not being able to shoot back isn't exactly my idea of fun, but its fun when you have squadmates that can do the shooting for you . Yea what I meant, who uses them solo anyway? if there are pilots who use arty tashas running solo, there are pilots who run ancile raijins solo .
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 31, 2016 9:14:08 GMT -5
Yea what I meant, who uses them solo anyway? if there are pilots who use arty tashas running solo, there are pilots who run ancile raijins solo . At least those marshnallow and popcorn throwers CAN do damage to peoplw, Raijin Ancile guarantees you 0 damage with that bot but much more helpful to your team (against splash that it)
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