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Post by dreamslayer28 on Jul 10, 2017 23:50:19 GMT -5
Now that apparently Pixonic's matchmaking system is spread out correctly (if mijapi's post was right), here are two questions:
1. What is the league level of the average War Robots player in Android?
2. What is the required skill level and type of hangar needed in order to enter the Expert, Master and Champions' leagues, respectively?
If Pixonic did their MM algorithm correctly, then the statistical rate for these questions should not be too far from the perceived rate (i.e. players' estimates.)
Example in Dota 2:
Player who has 3000 mmr is considered to be average by most people
Valve actually sets it at 2500 according to their statistics
Player who has 6000 mmr is considered to be a pro-level player by most people
Valve actually has 5800-6500 as the wall rate
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Post by dreamslayer28 on Jul 11, 2017 6:40:36 GMT -5
hahaha lol
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Post by llama4president on Jul 11, 2017 7:04:05 GMT -5
Now that apparently Pixonic's matchmaking system is spread out correctly (if mijapi's post was right), here are two questions: 1. What is the league level of the average War Robots player in Android? 2. What is the required skill level and type of hangar needed in order to enter the Expert, Master and Champions' leagues, respectively? If Pixonic did their MM algorithm correctly, then the statistical rate for these questions should not be too far from the perceived rate (i.e. players' estimates.) Example in Dota 2: Player who has 3000 mmr is considered to be average by most people Valve actually sets it at 2500 according to their statistics Player who has 6000 mmr is considered to be a pro-level player by most people Valve actually has 5800-6500 as the wall rate Rough Extimation. On Android, on Normal Queue, average should be Silver II - Silver I with lvl 8/9+ 9/9+ hangars gold 3 is ground for lvl 10/10+ hangars Diamond III, lvl 11/11+ hangars Diamond I and higher: Maxed hangars unusually lower hangars for league levels are mostly due to LQ, and very very rarely for skilled players. |
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Post by moody on Jul 11, 2017 7:05:42 GMT -5
What?
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Post by joshfishyu on Jul 11, 2017 7:35:29 GMT -5
Rough Extimation. On Android, on Normal Queue, average should be Silver II - Silver I with lvl 8/9+ 9/9+ hangars gold 3 is ground for lvl 10/10+ hangars Diamond III, lvl 11/11+ hangars Diamond I and higher: Maxed hangars unusually lower hangars for league levels are mostly due to LQ, and very very rarely for skilled players. I played two accounts, one is currently in Expert II, the other one recently rise through silver to gold II. Based on my observation, I would say: Silver: Mostly 6/6~8/8 hangars Gold: 8/8~10/10 Diamond: 9/9~11/11, I actually saw a lot of 8/8 hangars in low Diamond. Expert: 11/11 or maxed |
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Post by dangit on Jul 11, 2017 7:35:59 GMT -5
llama4president cool I am swinging above my weight class on Android. D1 almost E3. No max weapons or bots. NQ the only way to fly. Edit: Hi there, ?
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 11, 2017 7:44:32 GMT -5
Silver with 4/12, here ..
But I most often see 7-8/7-8 unless they are a 'Tanker. Most Gold and Diamond I encounter are 9-10/10-10, respectively.
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Post by llama4president on Jul 11, 2017 7:47:30 GMT -5
i mostly watch battle results after every battle,
but most of the time i watch the first 2 players on each side,
so my considerations could be influenced by that.
take it like this, the players that carry teams (doing much more than rest of the team)
on the average battles i see, are the reported numbers i wrote about Silver I, and Gold 3.
About higher leagues, i never reached diamond, so i can't talk about it with first hand
experience, but took in account clan members which seemed to have found there their
balance spot.
After some points in Android is really influenced by skill, as hangars tend to level
out much early than on IOS, so Diamond and up are grounds for Near maxed hangars or better.
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Post by llama4president on Jul 11, 2017 8:01:23 GMT -5
llama4president cool I am swinging above my weight class on Android. D1 almost E3. No max weapons or bots. NQ the only way to fly. Edit: Hi there, ? Swinging above your weight class isn't too hard, the hard part is keeping your score consistently, and as you are almost E3 it means you are really good. I sometime can reach higher in Golden, but it depends on the day, the hour i play. Sometime i play while i'm exausted and i just slack around shooting pew-pew to complete the 2 daily quests  , and that doesn't help at all with league scores  |
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Post by seanh on Jul 11, 2017 8:12:05 GMT -5
I don’t know about what league should have what hangers, but these days I am fairly sure everyone I play against has higher levelled equipment, sometimes much higher. I am taking some comfort that the machine obviously thinks I can handle them (most days / well some days), either that or the machine is trying to break me, could be the latter, not sure, those wily Russians.
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vinceh
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Post by vinceh on Jul 11, 2017 8:13:22 GMT -5
Now that apparently Pixonic's matchmaking system is spread out correctly (if mijapi's post was right), here are two questions: 1. What is the league level of the average War Robots player in Android? 2. What is the required skill level and type of hangar needed in order to enter the Expert, Master and Champions' leagues, respectively? If Pixonic did their MM algorithm correctly, then the statistical rate for these questions should not be too far from the perceived rate (i.e. players' estimates.) Example in Dota 2: Player who has 3000 mmr is considered to be average by most people Valve actually sets it at 2500 according to their statistics Player who has 6000 mmr is considered to be a pro-level player by most people Valve actually has 5800-6500 as the wall rate Rough Extimation. On Android, on Normal Queue, average should be Silver II - Silver I with lvl 8/9+ 9/9+ hangars gold 3 is ground for lvl 10/10+ hangars Diamond III, lvl 11/11+ hangars Diamond I and higher: Maxed hangars unusually lower hangars for league levels are mostly due to LQ, and very very rarely for skilled players. My bots are 9 and my weapons are 11/10 (mostly 11, except 2 orkans and whatever is on my 5th bot). I am in Expert 3 android. Not LQ. Does that make a skilled player? (Please make it so  . The expert hanger I saw seems to have similar or a bit higher level as mine. |
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Post by dangit on Jul 11, 2017 8:18:38 GMT -5
llama4president always consistent, never pew pew always bam bam. Bye there, ?
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Post by llama4president on Jul 11, 2017 8:21:17 GMT -5
Rough Extimation. On Android, on Normal Queue, average should be Silver II - Silver I with lvl 8/9+ 9/9+ hangars gold 3 is ground for lvl 10/10+ hangars Diamond III, lvl 11/11+ hangars Diamond I and higher: Maxed hangars unusually lower hangars for league levels are mostly due to LQ, and very very rarely for skilled players. My bots are 9 and my weapons are 11/10 (mostly 11, except 2 orkans and whatever is on my 5th bot). I am in Expert 3 android. Not LQ. Does that make a skilled player? (Please make it so . The expert hanger I saw seems to have similar or a bit higher level as mine. well at this point i have no idea. What i see on silver-gold could just be the "not-maxed tankers", and i made a wrong idea on how high are the hangars on diamond and higher. |
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Post by hyderier on Jul 11, 2017 8:34:47 GMT -5
Rough Extimation. On Android, on Normal Queue, average should be Silver II - Silver I with lvl 8/9+ 9/9+ hangars gold 3 is ground for lvl 10/10+ hangars Diamond III, lvl 11/11+ hangars Diamond I and higher: Maxed hangars unusually lower hangars for league levels are mostly due to LQ, and very very rarely for skilled players. My bots are 9 and my weapons are 11/10 (mostly 11, except 2 orkans and whatever is on my 5th bot). I am in Expert 3 android. Not LQ. Does that make a skilled player? (Please make it so . The expert hanger I saw seems to have similar or a bit higher level as mine. Weapon level 11 at Expert 3 makes you just average player I think. Sorry. Or well, depends. If you have only medium and light bots, then that's quite skilled indeed  . If it is 5 best meta Lances/Furys/Griffs, or if you play with full squad on voice comms, then... definitely mediocre I'm at D2 with 9/9 hangar (three L10 items), and while I'd also like to consider myself skilled... nah. We're just average. |
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Post by vinceh on Jul 11, 2017 8:57:12 GMT -5
My bots are 9 and my weapons are 11/10 (mostly 11, except 2 orkans and whatever is on my 5th bot). I am in Expert 3 android. Not LQ. Does that make a skilled player? (Please make it so . The expert hanger I saw seems to have similar or a bit higher level as mine. Weapon level 11 at Expert 3 makes you just average player I think. Sorry. Or well, depends. If you have only medium and light bots, then that's quite skilled indeed . If it is 5 best meta Lances/Furys/Griffs, or if you play with full squad on voice comms, then... definitely mediocre I'm at D2 with 9/9 hangar (three L10 items), and while I'd also like to consider myself skilled... nah. We're just average. At one point I got my hope up... oh well. Never hurts to ask. I think it is the weapons that matter most. The bots level don't do that much. A different topic: I can not believe they are buffing orkan again. I have 5 of them so I should not complain. However, my db griff already melt people like they don't have HP. with another 15%? damn. |
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Post by dreamslayer28 on Jul 11, 2017 9:42:45 GMT -5
llama4president cool I am swinging above my weight class on Android. D1 almost E3. No max weapons or bots. NQ the only way to fly. Edit: Hi there, ? Swinging above your weight class isn't too hard, the hard part is keeping your score consistently, and as you are almost E3 it means you are really good. I sometime can reach higher in Golden, but it depends on the day, the hour i play. Sometime i play while i'm exausted and i just slack around shooting pew-pew to complete the 2 daily quests , and that doesn't help at all with league scores Hmm. The fact that many players would consider 9/9 as Silver level is quite interesting, considering that I saw 8/8s and even 7/8 or 7/7 in Gold. So playstyle and approach to the game also affects one's rank, I guess. I do hope that Pix releases a bell curve of the average league population soon. That will be useful to compare what we perceive as average and what do the numbers actually say. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 11, 2017 10:02:12 GMT -5
According to pixonic, its 8/8.
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Post by mechtout on Jul 11, 2017 10:19:04 GMT -5
My Android account is diamond 1 with 7/8 bots but facing 10/10 to 10/12 usually
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Post by sharpmango on Jul 11, 2017 11:38:57 GMT -5
I'm currently Expert 3 on Android. This is the hangar that got me there:  This is my Diamond 3 hangar which got me there last month:  I don't think having maxed hangars is needed to play in expert level at all. I don't feel outmatched either. Tactics go a long way. |
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Post by moody on Jul 11, 2017 15:31:36 GMT -5
Definitely not maxed for diamond /low expert android.
Just made it to D1 with just about 9/10 hangar.
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Post by drake1588 on Jul 12, 2017 0:05:42 GMT -5
Mean is pretty useless. Median and the standard deviation would be far more useful in figuring out where players are clustered.
High point players severely skew the mean upward, and I can tell you that in Android diamond and beyond, you start seeing the same names and teams far more often than in gold.
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, and that doesn't help at all with league scores 
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. If it is 5 best meta Lances/Furys/Griffs, or if you play with full squad on voice comms, then... definitely mediocre 
