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Post by vball on Jul 9, 2017 10:46:09 GMT -5
What I have found is that too many players sit on a rigid and use energy weapons, making most of the shorter range non-energy weapons ineffective. I believe, creating a regenerating energy shield that stops the energy weapons but allows damage from non-energy weapons might even out use of energy weapons and non-energy weapons. It might be nice, if the regenerating shield could be used in a light, medium, and heavy slot. I like using a short range setup, but can hardly use it because everybody hits me before I can get in range.
Then, they could create a separate slot on the robot that can be used only for a non-energy or energy shield.
Sorry, if this has been suggested in another thread.
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Post by oakwhelie on Jul 10, 2017 3:30:27 GMT -5
There is this thing called physical shield. It does its job quite well.
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Post by WilsonK on Jul 10, 2017 4:16:56 GMT -5
What I have found is that too many players sit on a rigid and use energy weapons, making most of the shorter range non-energy weapons ineffective. I believe, creating a regenerating energy shield that stops the energy weapons but allows damage from non-energy weapons might even out use of energy weapons and non-energy weapons. It might be nice, if the regenerating shield could be used in a light, medium, and heavy slot. I like using a short range setup, but can hardly use it because everybody hits me before I can get in range. Then, they could create a separate slot on the robot that can be used only for a non-energy or energy shield. Sorry, if this has been suggested in another thread. No way for Ancile to be mountable on a light or medium hardpoint, you'll see every tom 「wee-wee」 and harry having anciles!!  or 3 little Stalkers with 2 Anciles each in a triangle formation, protecting DB bots!! On a side note... Reading that paragraph got me spinning... An ancile that blocks energy weapons but not ballistics? Whuttttttt? |
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Post by vball on Jul 13, 2017 10:44:32 GMT -5
Yes, a shield that stops energy weapons but allows other weapons (ballistics) to pass through the shield. Basically, the opposite of an Ancile shield. I get killed by more Taran and Trebuchet fire than any other weapon and the only defense is an Ecu which doesn't regenerate.
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Post by zman on Jul 13, 2017 11:14:09 GMT -5
Bonus damage for projectiles that are incoming in 3.0(I believe) will essentially turn the physical shield into this. And it'll work quite well IMO.
Also, the 2.9.2 damage buffs for projectiles should go a long way to diversifying what weapons people are equipping.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 13, 2017 13:19:15 GMT -5
Bonus damage for projectiles that are incoming in 3.0(I believe) will essentially turn the physical shield into this. And it'll work quite well IMO. Also, the 2.9.2 damage buffs for projectiles should go a long way to diversifying what weapons people are equipping. I don't think you're saying what you think you're saying...... |
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Post by zman on Jul 13, 2017 13:24:23 GMT -5
Bonus damage for projectiles that are incoming in 3.0(I believe) will essentially turn the physical shield into this. And it'll work quite well IMO. Also, the 2.9.2 damage buffs for projectiles should go a long way to diversifying what weapons people are equipping. I don't think you're saying what you think you're saying...... Guy wants an energy shield that affects energy projectiles but not physical ones. I said we already have physical shields, and now that punishers are dealing more damage and are soon to be dealing massive bonus damage to physical shields, those physical shields are going to essentially fill that role. And that this interaction will be essentially accomplishing much of what he is looking for. |
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Post by player1hasleft on Jul 13, 2017 13:26:58 GMT -5
The problem with energy shield is that it's hit box is too large. Even when hidden away from corners away from splash.. your shield can get depleted..
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 13, 2017 13:31:01 GMT -5
Right, but physical shields you buy suck, even if you buffed them, so a store bought ancile that did the opposite of current anciles would be nice.
Your post made it unclear if you understood, that's all, because I'm not sure how equating a +250% lead buff helps physical shields against energy, or any unshielded bot.
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Post by rustedscrap on Jul 13, 2017 13:32:00 GMT -5
I don't think you're saying what you think you're saying...... Guy wants an energy shield that affects energy projectiles but not physical ones. I said we already have physical shields, and now that punishers are dealing more damage and are soon to be dealing massive bonus damage to physical shields, those physical shields are going to essentially fill that role. And that this interaction will be essentially accomplishing much of what he is looking for. I think what he is asking for is 360 degree protection from energy weapons. |
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Post by zman on Jul 13, 2017 15:21:43 GMT -5
Guy wants an energy shield that affects energy projectiles but not physical ones. I said we already have physical shields, and now that punishers are dealing more damage and are soon to be dealing massive bonus damage to physical shields, those physical shields are going to essentially fill that role. And that this interaction will be essentially accomplishing much of what he is looking for. I think what he is asking for is 360 degree protection from energy weapons. I think so to, but he was talking about a balancing mechanic, I tried to point to one that is very similar that is already in place or will be shortly. |
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Post by amidf on Jul 13, 2017 15:51:21 GMT -5
Guy wants an energy shield that affects energy projectiles but not physical ones. I said we already have physical shields, and now that punishers are dealing more damage and are soon to be dealing massive bonus damage to physical shields, those physical shields are going to essentially fill that role. And that this interaction will be essentially accomplishing much of what he is looking for. I think what he is asking for is 360 degree protection from energy weapons. That regenerates. |
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Post by zman on Jul 13, 2017 15:53:02 GMT -5
Right, but physical shields you buy suck, even if you buffed them, so a store bought ancile that did the opposite of current anciles would be nice. Your post made it unclear if you understood, that's all, because I'm not sure how equating a +250% lead buff helps physical shields against energy, or any unshielded bot. Yes, the ECU physical shield sucks, but we have a number of physical shield bots currently with another on the way. Pix, definitely needs to fix the ECU and make equipping a physical shield more viable. Kind of wish they'd make an expandable one that could be activated that not only worked against energy but was strong enough to stop most splash damage unless it came from a different facing. It doesn't help physical shields against energy, but it does aid the rock/paper/scissors matchups we see. Energy is great against energy shields, terrible against physical shields. Rockets ignore physical shields but are poor against energy shields. Bullets are used to deplete energy shields and will defeat physical shields with usually enough damage left per magazine to hurt the bot behind them. It'll give bullets their niche with the brit bots being the obvious counter to energy weapons with their physical shields. Now we do need better physical shields to make this really work. IMO, a knockoff ancille clone in multiple slots that only works against energy doesnt "feel" right. At least in this universe so far, it definitely would be right in other universes ie deflection shields etc. IMO it would need to be different, maybe a true "deflection shield" that was a heavy slot and you deployed it, dropping your speed to zero like the Fuijin shield and only lasting 10s or so. Give it moderate health and a fast regen so it could be "broken" and disabled for a recharge time. It'd work against most energy based bots unless they were a full plasma griff blowing their load or mulitple bots with energy. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 13, 2017 16:27:42 GMT -5
Right, but physical shields you buy suck, even if you buffed them, so a store bought ancile that did the opposite of current anciles would be nice. Your post made it unclear if you understood, that's all, because I'm not sure how equating a +250% lead buff helps physical shields against energy, or any unshielded bot. Yes, the ECU physical shield sucks, but we have a number of physical shield bots currently with another on the way. Pix, definitely needs to fix the ECU and make equipping a physical shield more viable. Kind of wish they'd make an expandable one that could be activated that not only worked against energy but was strong enough to stop most splash damage unless it came from a different facing. It doesn't help physical shields against energy, but it does aid the rock/paper/scissors matchups we see. Energy is great against energy shields, terrible against physical shields. Rockets ignore physical shields but are poor against energy shields. Bullets are used to deplete energy shields and will defeat physical shields with usually enough damage left per magazine to hurt the bot behind them. It'll give bullets their niche with the brit bots being the obvious counter to energy weapons with their physical shields. Now we do need better physical shields to make this really work. IMO, a knockoff ancille clone in multiple slots that only works against energy doesnt "feel" right. At least in this universe so far, it definitely would be right in other universes ie deflection shields etc. IMO it would need to be different, maybe a true "deflection shield" that was a heavy slot and you deployed it, dropping your speed to zero like the Fuijin shield and only lasting 10s or so. Give it moderate health and a fast regen so it could be "broken" and disabled for a recharge time. It'd work against most energy based bots unless they were a full plasma griff blowing their load or mulitple bots with energy. Sooooo brit bots should be the only solution to energy weapons? |
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Post by ewing411 on Jul 13, 2017 20:10:16 GMT -5
Muhahhahaha. I'd totally support a Caranage with one of each shield unit in place of heavy weapons. Run some cord from the feet to the shield units and a Lancelot (with a Thunder, FINALLY!) can backpack it.
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Post by vball on Jul 15, 2017 18:06:08 GMT -5
I think what he is asking for is 360 degree protection from energy weapons. That regenerates. Yes - I would like to see a shield that creates a 360 protection dome from energy weapons that also regenerates... |
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or 3 little Stalkers with 2 Anciles each in a triangle formation, protecting DB bots!! 
