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Post by Golden Sabre on Jun 8, 2017 20:20:32 GMT -5
I'm really interested in how the clan leaders handle their clans. I personally in between contributing to the forum and the 50% of the time I spend recruiting, like to get to know my officers and soldiers. I also like to promote activity by having contests where gold or premium is the reward. Between real life and War Robots life, am I the only one who feels stretched ? And what else are you doing that I may not ?
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Post by T34 on Jun 8, 2017 20:31:44 GMT -5
good post! hope it has legs. maybe some further questions to stimulate discussion (hope you don't mind)
how do you recruit and how do you get to know the members? do you play a different style of game when recruiting? what are you looking for in potential recruits? How much importance do you place in the ability to communicate effectively (between members)? do you socialise outside the game (eg - email/catch ups.......) limits on the in clan chat board? time zone aspects
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jun 8, 2017 20:36:22 GMT -5
Big +1 to that, I was really trying to keep it simple because a clan leader (a good one) has a lot to think about.
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Post by T34 on Jun 8, 2017 20:48:46 GMT -5
it may also be worth while to hear from non leaders about what attributes they like or dislike about clan leaders in general (again sorry - no intent to hijack :-) )
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jun 8, 2017 21:10:38 GMT -5
it may also be worth while to hear from non leaders about what attributes they like or dislike about clan leaders in general (again sorry - no intent to hijack :-) ) No, it's okay, I had a feeling when I first thought about the post that this is a potential can of worms waiting to burst. I just hope it's for the better
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 8, 2017 21:14:12 GMT -5
How do I lead? The most effective way.
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Post by SGT D00M! on Jun 8, 2017 21:22:36 GMT -5
For PiGS, I acted as den mother since it has a high rate of kids. For ?ARthogs? A work in progress. Mostly making sure newbies get guidance. Not enough funds to sponser any contests yet.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 8, 2017 21:26:51 GMT -5
For PiGS, I acted as den mother since it has a high rate of kids. For ?ARthogs? A work in progress. Mostly making sure newbies get guidance. Not enough funds to sponser any contests yet. We do a monthly Patreon for promotions.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jun 8, 2017 21:27:21 GMT -5
For PiGS, I acted as den mother since it has a high rate of kids. For ?ARthogs? A work in progress. Mostly making sure newbies get guidance. Not enough funds to sponser any contests yet Our funds come from yours truly and if the old lady found out, I may be looking for room-mates instead of clan mates. It's only 5 bucks once in awhile and it keeps my soldiers motivated.
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Post by T34 on Jun 8, 2017 21:40:42 GMT -5
For PiGS, I acted as den mother since it has a high rate of kids. For ?ARthogs? A work in progress. Mostly making sure newbies get guidance. Not enough funds to sponser any contests yet. good on you!!
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Post by procrastinatron on Jun 8, 2017 21:44:21 GMT -5
Honestly all i look for in clans are cool tags beside my name, and squads occasionally. I always face a dilemma, if i choose clans from my time zone to squad often, they cant speak english. If i choose english speaking clans, i always play when they sleep. Anyway, my current clan (NS) is a pretty good clan, they speak english and if i wake up earlier i can manage to catch a few squad runs
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jun 8, 2017 22:43:09 GMT -5
How do I lead? The most effective way. You do NOT want Dredd to refer to you as Captain Needa in clan chat!
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Post by Vindictive999 on Jun 9, 2017 4:21:09 GMT -5
We decided that having on single leader is tough on that one person so we are more of an Autocratic structure, to spread the load. You need a very good officer structure to make it work though. Having to be able to actually listen to the other guys and take it on board when sometimes you disagree. Lucky enough the officers in the Wiki clan (android) are freaking awesome guys and people I now look upon as friends, not just team mates.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jun 9, 2017 5:27:40 GMT -5
My take on officers is that they rotate in and out as earned, and I trust them all as my right hand. I had one of my clan ask me once why he couldn't be an officer as he had seniority over most of the other pilots. I politely as I could explained that in order to be a leader, you had to lead by example and earning 4 cups a week wasn't a good example.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Jun 9, 2017 13:36:10 GMT -5
Interesting post.
I insist on leading by example, from my teammates side rather than ahead or behind them. I do everything in my ability to help each clan member with any game question they field or point them in a direction to where they can get an answer.
Using FB or Line chats and to a lesser degree the pesky in-game chat, I share concerns and strategy with clan-mates that grows many times to friendships that have moved beyond the game.
I aim to be the person I am in the game as I am in real life... Supportive, compassionate, understanding, friendly, respectable and a good listener.
in the Iron Warriors and Iron Warriors the clan leadership shuffles to various members who assume the role and rotate the leadership from time to time. When Issues arise in certain clans, usually theres a consensus met to solce the issue. I really dig how it works.
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Post by bilbobaggins on Jun 15, 2017 14:54:36 GMT -5
it may also be worth while to hear from non leaders about what attributes they like or dislike about clan leaders in general (again sorry - no intent to hijack :-) ) I like that my clan leader has no rules. There's no minimum anything required. My clan leader is very hands off, and I like that. He doesn't post much in chat. He doesn't send squad invites. He's active but seems to be a solo player like me.
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Post by critter667 on Jun 15, 2017 15:23:18 GMT -5
Let me preface by saying I am not a War Robots clan leader. In the other hand, I spent a year leading a truly strange beast in another game. It was... An interesting and crazy experience. I learned a lot and watched a game I enjoyed become a job I hated. Eventually real life events and burn out took its toll and I stepped down.
As for what my goals were... Content creation, delegation of duties, and being the final word when needed.
From the sounds of it, many of you help create content. This occurs when you hold events outside the normal gameplay. This is harder in War Robots where you can't easily create a tournament or the like. Still, the point is to create and engage users so they get more value out of being in the clan then they do being solo. This could be getting a forum or voice chat going, organizing tournament style events, and the like.
Deligating... Look... Any big clan needs officers and members active at all hours. Who can kick the idiot in comms when you are sound asleep? Who can hold a tourney to keep the AU time zone happy when the EU is at work and US is asleep? Who can run to redit to hype recruitment and even share a common language when you don't? No one can do it all And of they can, your group is not that big. Learning when to deligate, who to trust, who is reliable and who is just spouting hot air, that is tough but managing it is part of being the leader.
Lastly, being the final mediator. Look... Some arguments are clear cut. That idiot spouting anti-semantic comments is easy to kick. The argument over whether an orkan/Pinata Gary or a taran/mag one is better that seems ready to split the clan apart... Far tougher. Striking that middle ground or telling the kids enough is enough, let it go and move on is tough. It's part of what you have to do. You may get hated for it but well... Such is the role you chose.
All that said... I did my duty. I ain't starting a War Robots clan.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Jun 15, 2017 16:54:14 GMT -5
I took over Anarchy (Kaos) about 9 months ago after only playing the game about 4 months. It was my first clan and the only one I know. Maintaining 36+ people can be a challenge and I lean heavily on my officers to help with the day to day admin stuff and well as teaching the less skilled guys the ropes. To be effective you have to wear many hats, Squad Leader, teacher, confidant and sometimes referee. As the activity of the group grows so can the drama if you let it. The thing I have to remind myself and others is at the end of the day its a game and none of us is getting paid for this (God, it does feel like a job sometimes) and the most important part is comradere and just having fun.
As the clan goes up in the leagues, the attitudes can change and sometimes the overall vision can too. The key thing at least for us is to make sure were all on the same page on what we want our clan to ultimately be like. Being a Clan leader can definitely be "The Blessed-ed Curse". Its a ton of work for sure. heres to all the clan leaders out there who work hard every day to make the game enjoyable for there people.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jun 15, 2017 19:19:01 GMT -5
How do I lead? The most effective way. Fear is temporary, lead with love. Much more effective.
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Post by fatdogmagic on Jun 15, 2017 19:23:41 GMT -5
My clan has members from another game we all played so we know each other really well already. We use Line to shoot the poo and go to battle together. We're not super serious as a group just want to kill and have fun
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Jun 15, 2017 19:39:27 GMT -5
I had stripes in FX, and served briefly as Chief, gladly handing the reins back to UP when he returned. UP recently stepped down, but was exemplary imo, an encourager, whip cracker now and then, had his officer's backs, and like cheap toilet paper, he didn't take crap off anyone. He put a lot of himself into the job, and I enjoyed my time in FX.
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Post by Dredd77 on Jun 15, 2017 20:21:30 GMT -5
How do I lead? The most effective way. Fear is temporary, lead with love. Much more effective. Think so? List for me the empires throughout world history that had been formed through love.
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Post by bilbobaggins on Jun 16, 2017 8:24:28 GMT -5
I woke up this morning and opened the War Robots app while I was in the bathroom... and to my surprise, my clan leader made me an officer sometime after midnight while I was sleeping, so now I dislike something about him... He didn't ask me if I wanted to be an officer nor has he told me what he expects me to do as an officer. I guess I'm supposed to invite players to the clan? Lol I'm not going to ask him because he told me when I joined that we're basically a clan of mercenaries, which is why I haven't left.
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Post by drake1588 on Jun 16, 2017 10:38:46 GMT -5
Fear is temporary, lead with love. Much more effective. Think so? List for me the empires throughout world history that had been formed through love. Isn't it all just love of power, in the end? So all of them?
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Post by Poopface on Jun 16, 2017 10:48:41 GMT -5
How do I lead? The most effective way. Fear is temporary Then you're doing it wrong.
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Post by Deadeye on Jun 16, 2017 11:02:11 GMT -5
As someone who's been kicked out of a clan for no apparent reason (I did find out why later through back channels), I would say that stating expectations of clan members clearly when they join is a must. Are there bot level/damage/cups/etc. mins/maxes? Are there prohibited bot types/styles? Is squading required/recommended/not considered? Is discord (or similar) required/recommended/not considered? Also, setting up the requisite infrastructure for these endeavors. Set up a discord server and/or facebook group.
All depends on what your goals are for the clan. To me, it really doesn't matter (because it's your clan), but I want to know what those are when I join (preferably when I apply).
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Post by bilbobaggins on Jun 16, 2017 11:06:13 GMT -5
As someone who's been kicked out of a clan for no apparent reason (I did find out why later through back channels), I would say that stating expectations of clan members clearly when they join is a must. Are there bot level/damage/cups/etc. mins/maxes? Are there prohibited bot types/styles? Is squading required/recommended/not considered? Is discord (or similar) required/recommended/not considered? Also, setting up the requisite infrastructure for these endeavors. Set up a discord server and/or facebook group. All depends on what your goals are for the clan. To me, it really doesn't matter (because it's your clan), but I want to know what those are when I join (preferably when I apply). Do some clans have prohibited bot types/styles? YIKES!
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Post by Deadeye on Jun 16, 2017 11:18:20 GMT -5
As someone who's been kicked out of a clan for no apparent reason (I did find out why later through back channels), I would say that stating expectations of clan members clearly when they join is a must. Are there bot level/damage/cups/etc. mins/maxes? Are there prohibited bot types/styles? Is squading required/recommended/not considered? Is discord (or similar) required/recommended/not considered? Also, setting up the requisite infrastructure for these endeavors. Set up a discord server and/or facebook group. All depends on what your goals are for the clan. To me, it really doesn't matter (because it's your clan), but I want to know what those are when I join (preferably when I apply). Do some clans have prohibited bot types/styles? YIKES! None that were explicit about it, but in the competitive clans, if you run out something like a Hydra Rog in a competitive squad match, you're going to hear about it. (That said, I was the one upset about the Hydra Rog...I mean...IT'S A HYDRA ROG FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!) *catches breath*
Anyway...before the molots buff, one of our lieutenants would always tell people "no molots". My point is to just be up front about it. Eventually, the clan started having a Friday fun-day where, if you wanted to goof off, you could squad up with likeminded people shrugging off competitive attitudes and just do fun set ups. It was an excellent compromise.
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Post by bilbobaggins on Jun 16, 2017 11:22:25 GMT -5
Do some clans have prohibited bot types/styles? YIKES! None that were explicit about it, but in the competitive clans, if you run out something like a Hydra Rog in a competitive squad match, you're going to hear about it. (That said, I was the one upset about the Hydra Rog...I mean...IT'S A HYDRA ROG FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!) *catches breath*
Anyway...before the molots buff, one of our lieutenants would always tell people "no molots". My point is to just be up front about it. Eventually, the clan started having a Friday fun-day where, if you wanted to goof off, you could squad up with likeminded people shrugging off competitive attitudes and just do fun set ups. It was an excellent compromise.
That's... interesting...
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Still Learning
Destrier
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Posts: 21
Karma: 14
Pilot name: Still Learning
Platform: iOS
Clan: 44 Mag
League: Gold
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Post by Still Learning on Jun 16, 2017 11:26:46 GMT -5
To get some good practice leading a clan, I would first recommend herding cats.
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