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Post by mech on May 30, 2017 11:32:42 GMT -5
About me and Walking War Robots. Actively playing for just over a month. Actively trying to educate myself on the game for about 2 weeks (I did that backwards). Been in high silver for a little while now, sometimes bumped to low Gold for a short time. To testify to my noobness, I have 46% win ratio (thanks to my recent string of losses in low Gold) - usually it stays over 50%, 281 victories (so not a lot of total battles).
My current hangar:
L7 Plasma Griffin all the way
L7 DB Griffin (L8 Orkans, L7 Piñatas)
L7 RDB Griffin (1xL8 Tulumbas, rest L7)
L8 Plasmahad all the way
L7 Leo (L9 thunder, L6 Pin, L5 Pins)
The Leo slot is really the one I think I should do something about. I have been running a L11 Boa (before I researched anything, leveled it up before grasping that leveling weapons is more important and because it is/was a fun bot) with L9 Thunder/L9 Orkan. I love the speed, HP and close range DPS is decent. After the recent update, wanted to get more midrange with the pins (and my already decent RDB). Sometime it's good, other times not so sure. Might go back to a Thunder/Pinata Leo or bring the Boa back or get a new bot.
I have about 15k WSP. I was saving for the Carnage, but now I don't know what I should do, as Rhino might be more useful overall. I like to brawl, but so many bots are mid and long range, on open maps it can be painful.
I think the Griffs should stay, as each is quite useful. I will continue to level up the weapons, and get the bots to L9 as well. Currently waiting on Tulumbas upgrade to L8 for the RDB.
In reserve I only have a few:
-L11 Boa as mentioned. Mostly I hear that the Boa is currently not a good bot to run in higher level play. Then I also hear that if it is well used it can continue to be quite useful.
-L3 Golem (meh?)
-L5 Stalker - I see the stalker in play often and witnessed it's usefulness but the few times I've run it I suck at it and get creamed quickly
-L6 Patton. Seems too weak of a bot in general though I see them occasionally.
I am also intending to level up punishers and molots in my inventory. Energy weapons seem a good way to go as well, but I prefer the fun of weapons that go pew pew. I have one Gecko. Zeus Gecko Leo seems like a decent option but that is a significant gold investment for something I may not enjoy very much.
I've watched a lot of Adrian Chong and Stew Pendous vids and find myself torn about what to do next, as each decision made at this point represents a significant investment in time, silver, WSP, and even gold. I'm not shy to spend gold in the game from time to time but not a huge amount.
The point of this game for me is to have fun, but I also want to have effective bot builds, regardless of my not so great piloting skill.
Thanks for your time, advice and perspective.
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Crusher-of-Souls
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Pilot name: Crusher-of-Souls
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Clan: Mormons for days
League: Gold
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Carnage
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Post by Crusher-of-Souls on May 30, 2017 11:43:18 GMT -5
Thunder carnage ftw!!!!!!! If u don't have a carnage get one right away. It is the best when upgraded with max speed
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Post by mech on May 30, 2017 11:50:07 GMT -5
Ha I do see it in play a lot, and it's always a pain to deal with. the plasmahad usually can take it 1 on 1.
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Crusher-of-Souls
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Pilot name: Crusher-of-Souls
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League: Gold
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Favorite robot: Carnage
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Post by Crusher-of-Souls on May 30, 2017 11:55:41 GMT -5
Well, as an expiranced carnage user, I can sometimes take out plasmahads if near full health
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 12:26:08 GMT -5
I'd get a total of 4x Orkans first before saving for a Lancelot to replace either your Plasma Griffin or your Leo. Keep the Russian Griffin until you get 2x Tridents where you would put them on a Natasha with Pins. As for the WSP, get one more Taran (I am assuming you have 3 Tarans), then buy the Carnage to replace the Leo.
One bot that you may want to think of replacing later is the Plasma Griffin. Although they may seem good in Silver and Gold, Plasma Griffins lose luster later on as you progess because of the sheer number of Galahads, Gareth and Lancelots that you will be seeing.
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Post by mech on May 30, 2017 13:43:51 GMT -5
I'd get a total of 4x Orkans first before saving for a Lancelot to replace either your Plasma Griffin or your Leo. Keep the Russian Griffin until you get 2x Tridents where you would put them on a Natasha with Pins. As for the WSP, get one more Taran (I am assuming you have 3 Tarans), then buy the Carnage to replace the Leo. One bot that you may want to think of replacing later is the Plasma Griffin. Although they may seem good in Silver and Gold, Plasma Griffins lose luster later on as you progess because of the sheer number of Galahads, Gareth and Lancelots that you will be seeing. Thank you for the advice, makes a lot of sense. I do have 4 Orkans, but yes need 1 more Taran to have 4. Let me break it down to make sure I'm getting it: -Carnage to replace Leo/Boa slot (makes sense, and can do relatively quickly) -Natasha tridents/pins to replace RDB (I see the point of mid range DPS, but mobility is a problem) (will take a little longer to accumulate WSP) Any better bot than Natasha for similar role? -Lancelot. I know this is basically the king from watching vids. With my luck it will be out of favor/usefulness with a nerf by the time I get one leveled up haha So with that line up my hangar would potentially be: -DB Griff -Thunder Carnage -Plasmahad -Lancelot -Natasha Did I get that right? In this case I question the necessity to have 4 tarans, as I would have only one in the lineup there. I was under the impression (blame Adrian) that high level play has predominantly plasma and orkans in use? |
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Post by mech on May 30, 2017 13:49:32 GMT -5
I suppose the Lance would have either Orkans or Tarans, either way I've got enough of both to make it so.
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Post by oakwhelie on May 30, 2017 15:10:57 GMT -5
I'd get a total of 4x Orkans first before saving for a Lancelot to replace either your Plasma Griffin or your Leo. Keep the Russian Griffin until you get 2x Tridents where you would put them on a Natasha with Pins. As for the WSP, get one more Taran (I am assuming you have 3 Tarans), then buy the Carnage to replace the Leo. One bot that you may want to think of replacing later is the Plasma Griffin. Although they may seem good in Silver and Gold, Plasma Griffins lose luster later on as you progess because of the sheer number of Galahads, Gareth and Lancelots that you will be seeing. i have trident pin natasha as well but it doesn't work for me. It needs to get within 500m to take advantage of the pin, however RDB can counter your bot with ease, and the slow speed makes it easy to chase. Whenever i run it, i always die early, faster than my griff. |
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Post by mech on May 30, 2017 19:26:13 GMT -5
I'd get a total of 4x Orkans first before saving for a Lancelot to replace either your Plasma Griffin or your Leo. Keep the Russian Griffin until you get 2x Tridents where you would put them on a Natasha with Pins. As for the WSP, get one more Taran (I am assuming you have 3 Tarans), then buy the Carnage to replace the Leo. One bot that you may want to think of replacing later is the Plasma Griffin. Although they may seem good in Silver and Gold, Plasma Griffins lose luster later on as you progess because of the sheer number of Galahads, Gareth and Lancelots that you will be seeing. i have trident pin natasha as well but it doesn't work for me. It needs to get within 500m to take advantage of the pin, however RDB can counter your bot with ease, and the slow speed makes it easy to chase. Whenever i run it, i always die early, faster than my griff. Good to know, thanks. I have a feeling my experience would be similar to yours. Perhaps it's different in Champion league, with commensurate skill level and bot / weapons level. |
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Post by Shahmatt on May 31, 2017 1:20:22 GMT -5
A Trident Pin Leo is a good build. Better than a Natasha Trident Pin IMO because it is faster and has more HP.
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Post by Shahmatt on May 31, 2017 1:28:35 GMT -5
Consider buying an Ancile.
You could consider slapping it on the Leo or Boa to make them relevant.
In order to counter the advance of rockets I use an Ancile Plasma Golem. I find it an effective build but it should strictly be played in a support role and not a front line brawler.
FYI the Carnage Ancile is useful but weaker than a dedicated Ancile. The Fujin Ancile, though stronger, is useless because it is inactive when moving. The Dash Mk2 will also have an Ancile but involves waiting.
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Post by mech on May 31, 2017 10:21:24 GMT -5
A Trident Pin Leo is a good build. Better than a Natasha Trident Pin IMO because it is faster and has more HP. Good to know. More easily played with since I have the Leo already, and need to pick up a trident or two anyway. I do happen to have an Ancile, at L3 currently. Not sure what to do with it, recently considered putting on the Boa as you mention, with my L9 Orkan. Or double down on the Carnage I just got with a L9 thunder. Carnage is L6. I ran it a couple of times with thunder at L3 or 4. It is fun but I need more time with it. |
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Post by lotfh on May 31, 2017 11:15:24 GMT -5
Carnage thunder is the ultimate brawler and fun to boots
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Post by mech on Jun 1, 2017 14:29:39 GMT -5
Enjoying the Carnage, though I am not close to getting the most out of it. Hangar is now:
3x L7 Griffin (Plasma, DB, RDB)
1x L8 Plasmahad
1x L8 Carnage Thunder
So far this is fairly versatile, of course less so on open maps. I find the Galahad is not dead yet (in Gold III). Averaging higher damage than before. Better matches I'm at 700k, and more over 500k.
I miss my Boa, but the Galahad and Carnage do more for me.
Don't really know what to do next other than level up weapons for now, or drop gold on some other bot. I think working with this hangar will keep me busy for quite some time. Waiting on WSP to pick up tridents. Might buy a second Zuess and level them both up to swith out on the Carnage for a change.
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Post by drake1588 on Jun 1, 2017 16:44:43 GMT -5
You have the right idea for sure. I would keep levelling what you have and save money/wsp for the time being. You could sign up for the test server to try out a few of the bots/weapons you are curious about - everything there is level 8 so your play experience will be pretty similar to what you are used to.
With the dropping off of Brit bots, Zeus looks like the better midrange choice than trident at the moment, but that could easily change when the heavy molot and dash bots come out in a few months. If you wanted to swap any bot out for the boa sometimes, I would suggest the plasma had. Similar firepower and you're trading shield HP for body HP. More resistant to missiles, less to plasma, but overall similar not.
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