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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 12, 2016 22:19:20 GMT -5
While some of the names you come across are rather amusing, some are downright inappropriate. If this game were only played by adults then ok but there are kids playing this game (my 10 yr old for instance). I think Pixonic needs to address this problem across all languages. I've seen names like "I hate asians" or equally insulting names in Chinese, Tagalog, and Spanish.
War Robots is the first game I've ever played so I guess I'm a newb when it comes to multiplayer games.
Is this a problem that's impossible/very difficult to address?
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Post by yhondeh on Dec 12, 2016 22:26:13 GMT -5
There is a function to report players in game. Menu > Report Error > select "Report a player". I don't know if Pixonic will take action against different languages though.
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 12, 2016 22:36:55 GMT -5
There is a function to report players in game. Menu > Report Error > select "Report a player". I don't know if Pixonic will take action against different languages though. Thanks. Will do from now on.
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 12, 2016 22:37:25 GMT -5
Yeah if you report it Pixo will take them down pretty quickly. I found one in chinese character too and they said they'd take action. Probably not easy to add automated filters since you can still get around by using special characters or alternate spelling "1 h8 asianz" for example (i'm asian so i can say that haha) and honestly there's infinite combination of ways to write something insulting. Anyway - report it!
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 12, 2016 22:49:42 GMT -5
"1 h8 asianz" for example (i'm asian so i can say that haha) I have never understood this logic .
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 12, 2016 22:57:54 GMT -5
No logic. Just joking. Don't ban me please... I love asians!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 23:07:17 GMT -5
No logic. Just joking. Don't ban me please... I love asians! What I really love is Asian women. So mysterious to my Caucasian suburban nerdiness. It's like you know they have something to teach you but they'll tease you and keep it forever hidden. #teachmeplease And now, back to our thread...
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Dec 12, 2016 23:51:46 GMT -5
If Pixonic were to censor every bad word in every language, everyone would be reading astericks No logic. Just joking. Don't ban me please... I love asians! Unfortunately for you, most of the mod/admin team is asian *grabs beanhammer*
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Post by Strayed on Dec 13, 2016 0:49:26 GMT -5
No Schnitzel! You ruined our plan for world domination! JK
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 13, 2016 1:21:20 GMT -5
If Pixonic were to censor every bad word in every language, everyone would be reading astericks I disagree. Why should English take precedence? The game is available in multiple languages. I realize it's tough to filter everything since there are workarounds--using symbols, numbers, etc. But at least ban the ones that are overtly hateful, racist, sexist, etc. My son reads Chinese and English very well and it bothers me that he regularly sees offensively IGNs.
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 13, 2016 1:55:53 GMT -5
No Schnitzel! You ruined our plan for world domination! JK Can I get in on this plan? I'm asian too, I swear EDIT: I'm a Boa now, yay!
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Dec 13, 2016 2:56:24 GMT -5
If Pixonic were to censor every bad word in every language, everyone would be reading asterisks I disagree. Why should English take precedence? The game is available in multiple languages. I realize it's tough to filter everything since there are workarounds--using symbols, numbers, etc. But at least ban the ones that are overtly hateful, racist, sexist, etc. My son reads Chinese and English very well and it bothers me that he regularly sees offensively IGNs. I never mentioned anything about English taking precedence, I just said if Pixo were to censor every bad word, we'd all be reading asterisks. Also, if you want Pixo to consider implementing that, try sending them an email?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 3:22:05 GMT -5
I do take a certain pleasure in reporting those retards using nazi vocab, signs or person names in their nicks.
I always got a quick response and enjoy the thought that another 12 year old imbecile is now Pilot xyz again...
I know some countrys dont care much about this, but I am grateful that Pixonic does.
As a german, living in a country where the rightwing idiots are gaining in polls again, it really hurts me physically to see that someone thinks its cool to use names and signs from our most dark age.
Bodyparts or general insults I find funny most of the time, as long as it isnt racist...
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Post by Strayed on Dec 13, 2016 3:33:56 GMT -5
Oi, no politics.
We have right wingers on here as well in addition to leftwingers.
But yes, I sometimes wonder if those edgy teens ever think about what they're joking about.
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 13, 2016 3:42:43 GMT -5
I disagree. Why should English take precedence? The game is available in multiple languages. I realize it's tough to filter everything since there are workarounds--using symbols, numbers, etc. But at least ban the ones that are overtly hateful, racist, sexist, etc. My son reads Chinese and English very well and it bothers me that he regularly sees offensively IGNs. I never mentioned anything about English taking precedence, I just said if Pixo were to censor every bad word, we'd all be reading asterisks. Also, if you want Pixo to consider implementing that, try sending them an email? You're right; I read this wrong--I do apologize.
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Post by BigBear on Dec 13, 2016 4:04:34 GMT -5
So if you report a player for having an inappropriate IGN and Pixonic delete it what happens to the offending player?,is there any penalty of do they just think up a new insult and jump back into the game
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Dec 13, 2016 4:06:47 GMT -5
So if you report a player for having an inappropriate IGN and Pixonic delete it what happens to the offending player?,is there any penalty of do they just think up a new insult and jump back into the game They get their name reset (pilot xyz), and they have to cough up 500Au to change it to something else
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Post by BigBear on Dec 16, 2016 18:16:33 GMT -5
That's a fair penalty then,thanks for clarifying this Schnitzel.
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Post by stygianumbra on Dec 17, 2016 22:38:29 GMT -5
They are all just words.
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Post by Strayed on Dec 17, 2016 23:20:57 GMT -5
You do realize that this is a game privately owned by a Russian company and thus is not protected by freedom of speech?
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Post by stygianumbra on Dec 18, 2016 1:57:12 GMT -5
The point of that video isn't freedom of speech it's the idea that censoring words is beneficial to the collective good, I don't think it is nor did Frank Zappa. Where is the evidence that hearing/reading "bad" words leads to a more deviant society or damages the order of society?
It simply offends some people who for a seemingly irrational reason build a mental image of their perception based on an idea represented by a word and are offended, it doesn't really hurt anyone without the complicity of both parties. If it does hurt you are probably feeling exactly the way the person who is using a "bad" word wants you to feel and you are allowing it to happen.
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Post by - Exteel 2.0 on Dec 18, 2016 2:06:39 GMT -5
*sigh*
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Post by BLYTHE on Dec 19, 2016 1:00:35 GMT -5
If it does hurt you are probably feeling exactly the way the person who is using a "bad" word wants you to feel and you are allowing it to happen. Ah yes, I can see how easily kids who're 7 will be able to put this sentiment into action. It does hurt people, stygianumbra. I'm not talking simply about profanities but hateful words or phrases that children cannot yet process and become negatively impacted. There's a reason why this board has a profanity filter in place--which can be used to ensure that people keep discussions civil. There's also a reason why we don't discuss politics here--because we already are inundated with it on a daily basis (as we are inundated with hatred, racism, etc). A young (input race here) boy should be able to play and enjoy the game without having to be subjected to an IGN that is loathsome.
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Post by funyun on Dec 19, 2016 11:02:48 GMT -5
If your kid is that focused on the random crappy names some people have chosen, then its probably time he became educated on them.
Never mind, stifle the child with mind numbing robot violence.
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Post by Dredd77 on Dec 19, 2016 11:14:06 GMT -5
Long-time listener, first-time caller here! I absolutely agree with stygianumbra that words are just words, and people should not be offended by some collection of patterned pixels that almost invisibly sit atop a robot as it runs around a virtual playing field. Note the most important word of that sentence: SHOULD Facts are, whether we like it or not, they are and they do. That's not the Magical World of Should, but the Actual World of Reality. If you're a private company looking to make money off of an entertainment product, which of these two worlds do you cater your product to? I'll take my answer off the air.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 11:31:05 GMT -5
Dredd77: your conclusion is definately right - but please rethink the phrase "words are just words". Words are part of a language. The development of languages and cultures goes side by side, affecting each other. A global game that brings people from a lot of different cultures together should at least try to keep this level of interaction "clean" on a neutral level. It may not hurt you to read a players name that refers to bodyparts of your mother or mocking a holy man or book or spagetthi monster - but it may others. So I think its a good thing that Pix takes actions against such player names if they get reported. Its also completely within their rights and has nothing to do with censorship or somebodys right of "free speech".
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Post by Dredd77 on Dec 19, 2016 12:21:59 GMT -5
Dredd77 : your conclusion is definately right - but please rethink the phrase "words are just words". Words are part of a language. The development of languages and cultures goes side by side, affecting each other. A global game that brings people from a lot of different cultures together should at least try to keep this level of interaction "clean" on a neutral level. It may not hurt you to read a players name that refers to bodyparts of your mother or mocking a holy man or book or spagetthi monster - but it may others. So I think its a good thing that Pix takes actions against such player names if they get reported. Its also completely within their rights and has nothing to do with censorship or somebodys right of "free speech". I agree with everything you wrote. I do feel that people should be able to inure themselves from the offense of seeing a single word, however objectionable. I do not believe human beings to be unthingking, reflexive creatures, and that we have the ability to mentally intercede between the stimulus and response. In other words, we have the ability to consciously decide not to be offended at something.
However, we are also not machines, able to override out reactions like, well, a robot. And in light of that, it is certainly better to present a neutral (or even, heaven forbid, a welcoming) environment. We come here to have fun, not be subjected to trolls and wind-up merchants who think I HEART HITLER is a deeply clever username.
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Post by stygianumbra on Dec 19, 2016 17:28:10 GMT -5
If it does hurt you are probably feeling exactly the way the person who is using a "bad" word wants you to feel and you are allowing it to happen. Ah yes, I can see how easily kids who're 7 will be able to put this sentiment into action. It does hurt people, stygianumbra. I'm not talking simply about profanities but hateful words or phrases that children cannot yet process and become negatively impacted. There's a reason why this board has a profanity filter in place--which can be used to ensure that people keep discussions civil. There's also a reason why we don't discuss politics here--because we already are inundated with it on a daily basis (as we are inundated with hatred, racism, etc). A young (input race here) boy should be able to play and enjoy the game without having to be subjected to an IGN that is loathsome. Consdering the history of English first it was religion that was taboo, then sex and now racism. Racism is the latest boogeyman for society and in another 50 years it probably won't be any more, 50 years ago you could not show simulated copulation on tv, now you can. You couldn't even say damn in movies during the 50s and now obviously you can. They even said batman comics were destroying the children. People back then felt the SAME way about profanities and sex as people feel about racism now. Society hasn't unraveled yet.. I remember being 7, my parents are who taught me not to stereotype and to judge people by their actions. I as a white boy around lots of black kids was subject to racism most of my life yet not once did it make me want to be racist. I don't see how a child not understanding something would negatively impact a child since that is how you learn, unless nobody explains it or they are lied to. I don't see how shielding a child from these things they will inevitably be exposed to helps them at all. Profanity does not make a conversation uncivil, the actions of its participants do. The idea of moral probity being impinged upon by the 17th century attempts at linking purity of speech to power does not hold water. Cursing is cathartic and the entire modern paradigm surrounding the dislike of profanity has its roots in fallacy. The very basis of the OP is rooted in politics.. political correctness. The internet may give you a floodlight instead of a spotlight that makes it feel like being inundated however racist remarks are less tolerated and less used now then say in the 80s. I am not saying it should be allowed here or in game, I fully support the rights of people to do what they want but I can at the very least question the rationale behind such decisions especially when I see it as flawed.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Dec 19, 2016 17:41:40 GMT -5
To put in simply (and not in 5-10 paragraphs), if people are to offended by a simple nickname, I doubt they will live past high school and should probably just not use the Internet in any shape or form.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Dec 19, 2016 17:45:26 GMT -5
If it does hurt you are probably feeling exactly the way the person who is using a "bad" word wants you to feel and you are allowing it to happen. Ah yes, I can see how easily kids who're 7 will be able to put this sentiment into action. It does hurt people, stygianumbra. I'm not talking simply about profanities but hateful words or phrases that children cannot yet process and become negatively impacted. There's a reason why this board has a profanity filter in place--which can be used to ensure that people keep discussions civil. There's also a reason why we don't discuss politics here--because we already are inundated with it on a daily basis (as we are inundated with hatred, racism, etc). A young (input race here) boy should be able to play and enjoy the game without having to be subjected to an IGN that is loathsome. No offence, but I almost take your idea of children as insulting. I mean, you talk about them as if they have a vocabulary of about 3 words and need other people to tell them how to breath
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