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Post by GuitarGuy on Oct 12, 2017 16:53:39 GMT -5
Excellent read as always sir. Now if you could just crunch the numbers and figure out how the MM really works... well. I can dream cant I?! lol
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Post by shakingrabbit on Oct 12, 2017 17:44:45 GMT -5
Good read as usual although the actual playerbase that Silver1 gets thrown in with is actually a bit higher in levels. Not sure how far you made it up Silver 1 or what your sample size was but the wall doesn't really get going til you are solidly around mid Silver1. Sorry to disappoint but if you are just low Silver1, you aint seen nothin yet.
Which might help explain the trophies drop in S1. The noob smackdowns by lvl10 gear would really curtail player enthusiasm.
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Post by moody on Oct 12, 2017 17:52:42 GMT -5
Good read as usual although the actual playerbase that Silver1 gets thrown in with is actually a bit higher in levels. Not sure how far you made it up Silver 1 or what your sample size was but the wall doesn't really get going til you are solidly around mid Silver1. Sorry to disappoint but if you are just low Silver1, you aint seen nothin yet. Which might help explain the trophies drop in S1. The noob smackdowns by lvl10 gear would really curtail player enthusiasm. I should mention that I've revived a really old thread here. This isn't current news. |
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Post by moody on Oct 12, 2017 18:01:12 GMT -5
Just looking at numbers, my account and dredds account it doesn't add up.
Me - Silver 2 - 1551 league points.
Dredd - Silver 1 - 1518 league points.
I might have to check to see if I'm at the end of challenge games into silver 1.
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Post by shakingrabbit on Oct 12, 2017 18:47:27 GMT -5
Good read as usual although the actual playerbase that Silver1 gets thrown in with is actually a bit higher in levels. Not sure how far you made it up Silver 1 or what your sample size was but the wall doesn't really get going til you are solidly around mid Silver1. Sorry to disappoint but if you are just low Silver1, you aint seen nothin yet. Which might help explain the trophies drop in S1. The noob smackdowns by lvl10 gear would really curtail player enthusiasm. I should mention that I've revived a really old thread here. This isn't current news. Well, don't I feel foolish. Still interesting to see the differences between then and now. Avg lvl back then 8, now closer to 10. Also, interesting that his matches back then were fairly even in Silver2. Not so much the case now but I figured he must have gotten some lucky MM. |
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Post by moody on Oct 12, 2017 18:53:15 GMT -5
I should mention that I've revived a really old thread here. This isn't current news. Well, don't I feel foolish. Still interesting to see the differences between then and now. Avg lvl back then 8, now closer to 10. Also, interesting that his matches back then were fairly even in Silver2. Not so much the case now but I figured he must have gotten some lucky MM. My Matches in Silver 2 are fairly even. I will say I am way underleveled at 6 and under compared to the average. But I keep getting first or second damage so I'm advancing regardless of win or loss. I am in challenge games and about to attain silver 1. Looking at my league of 100 people I am equal lowest level at 22 and perhaps half are at level 30. There are two other people also at level 22. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 19:39:45 GMT -5
No, you really should be.  Really really difficult to find Tinthefiends posts as a deleted member  Dredd77 Wanted to show what the state of play a few months on gets. 2 week old hangar, I am not an incredible player in my own opinion. I am going to take this to 6/6 and 5 slots and see how far it takes me.   |
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Post by moody on Oct 12, 2017 19:51:26 GMT -5
Really really difficult to find Tinthefiends posts as a deleted member Dredd77 Wanted to show what the state of play a few months on gets. 2 week old hangar, I am not an incredible player in my own opinion. I am going to take this to 6/6 and 5 slots and see how far it takes me. Very nice, (higher average than my 9/10 hangar), glad to see you still exist! |
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Post by shakingrabbit on Oct 12, 2017 19:54:16 GMT -5
Best of luck. Would be interesting to hear your take on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 19:58:08 GMT -5
moodyIt's why I needed to step away. The game is no fun vs D3+ with 6/6. Griffins are no fun in general. Every match, in both modes, feels like I have very little impact on the match, and then I find out I'm topping the charts against an average of 10/10 hangars. Going back to smurfing with my minamalist account.
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Post by moody on Oct 12, 2017 20:15:47 GMT -5
moody It's why I needed to step away. The game is no fun vs D3+ with 6/6. Griffins are no fun in general. Every match, in both modes, feels like I have very little impact on the match, and then I find out I'm topping the charts against an average of 10/10 hangars. Going back to smurfing with my minamalist account. I must say I have had more fun with a low level account than I expected - and have gotten through leagues far faster than I expected. At this point I am making a difference in every match - but I can see that stopping very soon. I got the griffin and leo specifically to be competitive in competition but I'm not going to keep it that way. I'm working on a nash / molot golem and a thunder schultz in the background for example. If you hadn't heard, there are competitions based around 6/6 hangars - imposed hangar based matchmaking. Of course there are still ways to wrought it but it isn't as bad as the current standard matchmaker. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 20:24:27 GMT -5
moody It's why I needed to step away. The game is no fun vs D3+ with 6/6. Griffins are no fun in general. Every match, in both modes, feels like I have very little impact on the match, and then I find out I'm topping the charts against an average of 10/10 hangars. Going back to smurfing with my minamalist account. I must say I have had more fun with a low level account than I expected - and have gotten through leagues far faster than I expected. At this point I am making a difference in every match - but I can see that stopping very soon. I got the griffin and leo specifically to be competitive in competition but I'm not going to keep it that way. I'm working on a nash / molot golem and a thunder schultz in the background for example. If you hadn't heard, there are competitions based around 6/6 hangars - imposed hangar based matchmaking. Of course there are still ways to wrought it but it isn't as bad as the current standard matchmaker. Not really interested enough in the actual competetion aspect of the game to replace the few lv 7 items I have on my main. Instead I'm just playing the account I posted about in the "slots vs bots vs MM" thread, as I'm thoroughly convinced the old advice is outdated, and that there are more woes caused by rushing into Griffins and Leos with the current matchmaker. Jumping into heavy bots leads to a rapid inflation of league score, which ends up leading to a resource deficit that can't be recovered from without sandbagging. My gold league account may pull off the numbers necessary to be where it is (keep getting jammed into diamond matches), but it is not generating any resources outside of dailies and the 1/5 chance that I win a match without a bunch of 11/12s taking all the Au. Silver:time ratio is absolutely terrible, and I hate Griffins with a passion. |
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