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Post by Dredd77 on May 29, 2017 15:46:51 GMT -5
It's the newest By the Numbers data/analysis post on the Diary, and today I'll be looking at Android Silver. All of Android Silver.
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Post by 0ppressor on May 29, 2017 15:57:25 GMT -5
Yep, android silver I
Keep spending most our lives Livin' in a [Tanker]'s paradise Been spending most their lives Livin' in a [Tanker]'s paradise
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Post by zer00eyz on May 29, 2017 15:59:20 GMT -5
It's the newest By the Numbers data/analysis post on the Diary, and today I'll be looking at Android Silver. All of Android Silver. And not a single hanger screen shot in there? What are you running Dredd77
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 16:14:37 GMT -5
Actually was waiting on this one Dredd77. Good read as always good sir and I'm sure new players will find this very informative. Keep up the good work!
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Post by Dredd77 on May 29, 2017 16:19:41 GMT -5
It's the newest By the Numbers data/analysis post on the Diary, and today I'll be looking at Android Silver. All of Android Silver. And not a single hanger screen shot in there? What are you running Dredd77 Thanks, forgot to add that. Fixed. And here ya go.
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Post by zer00eyz on May 29, 2017 16:32:40 GMT -5
And not a single hanger screen shot in there? What are you running Dredd77 Thanks, forgot to add that. Fixed. And here ya go. Thanks! I think the next article is going to be even more interesting... the new missile mechanics might be unkind to that hanger. It will be interest to see if silver adapts and how quickly.
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Post by Shahmatt on May 29, 2017 16:56:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the article. Very interesting.
My own hangar seems very much non meta for Silver I and Gold III, where I'm hovering around right now. I wonder what are the odds of two Golems, a Cossack, a Boa and a Gareth.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 17:29:33 GMT -5
Fun reading, nice work. Curious to see the iOS and Android hangar pics/stats side by side sometime.
...not that I'd understand the implications, mind you. But we tactics-less brutes just like lots of colorful pictures with our wordy-books. ?
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Post by llama4president on May 29, 2017 18:09:10 GMT -5
"It had no impact on the battle, but later upon reflection I realized that that was the legacy of my immersive Android experience: bleed the 「illegitimate child」s for every last point of damage theyâre worth."
OMG we created a Monster!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 18:20:34 GMT -5
"If you can't win, make them bleed and remember your name" ~War Robots Android
And now thanks to Dredd I can repeat that changing league point earnings to damage based with positive points on the losing team will make that nightmare worse.
Dredd, you should be able to make gold league with that hangar >.>
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Post by Dredd77 on May 29, 2017 18:37:49 GMT -5
"If you can't win, make them bleed and remember your name" ~War Robots Android And now thanks to Dredd I can repeat that changing league point earnings to damage based with positive points on the losing team will make that nightmare worse. Dredd, you should be able to make gold league with that hangar >.> I appreciate the vote of confidence! I'd have liked to have thought so too, but the tide appears to be turning.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 18:42:56 GMT -5
I am not sure for Android, but that hangar is a perfect Diamond 1 hangar in iOS.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 19:03:24 GMT -5
"If you can't win, make them bleed and remember your name" ~War Robots Android And now thanks to Dredd I can repeat that changing league point earnings to damage based with positive points on the losing team will make that nightmare worse. Dredd, you should be able to make gold league with that hangar >.> I appreciate the vote of confidence! I'd have liked to have thought so too, but the tide appears to be turning. No, you really should be.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 29, 2017 19:17:40 GMT -5
@tinthefiend Okay...?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 19:26:10 GMT -5
Stop being a scrub :3
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Post by Dredd77 on May 29, 2017 19:41:53 GMT -5
Who says the forum has gone downhill?
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Post by shakingrabbit on May 29, 2017 20:45:22 GMT -5
I'm in Gold3/Gold2 with only 460 victories. What does that mean? What are trophies?
I tracked about 2 levels below your avg stats (myself, bots and weapons) but I wonder how much of these stats are influenced by tankers/faders/etc.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on May 29, 2017 23:24:15 GMT -5
"If you can't win, make them bleed and remember your name" ~War Robots Android And now thanks to Dredd I can repeat that changing league point earnings to damage based with positive points on the losing team will make that nightmare worse. Dredd, you should be able to make gold league with that hangar >.> I very much doubt that. Once most of the gear is at 8's then yeah. As he said he is under-powered, and it's true. I was in a 7/7 hanger 5+ weeks ago and now I'm in 9/8 and I am barely holding on in Gold 3,
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 0:27:44 GMT -5
"If you can't win, make them bleed and remember your name" ~War Robots Android And now thanks to Dredd I can repeat that changing league point earnings to damage based with positive points on the losing team will make that nightmare worse. Dredd, you should be able to make gold league with that hangar >.> I very much doubt that. Once most of the gear is at 8's then yeah. As he said he is under-powered, and it's true. I was in a 7/7 hanger 5+ weeks ago and now I'm in 9/8 and I am barely holding on in Gold 3, I'm holding gold 3 with a 6/6 hangar,and the only people I squad with right now are young folk that don't do very well with gear leveled well above my own(floating in silver 2/1). No one listens to me like they do Dredd though, so I'll poke at him if I want >.>
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Post by Gilded Wolf on May 30, 2017 1:26:36 GMT -5
I very much doubt that. Once most of the gear is at 8's then yeah. As he said he is under-powered, and it's true. I was in a 7/7 hanger 5+ weeks ago and now I'm in 9/8 and I am barely holding on in Gold 3, I'm holding gold 3 with a 6/6 hangar,and the only people I squad with right now are young folk that don't do very well with gear leveled well above my own(floating in silver 2/1). No one listens to me like they do Dredd though, so I'll poke at him if I want >.> I feel obliged to point out that most any who have been around these forums for long enough have most assuredly listened to you. In my opinion, your work on cracking the old MM remains one of the most important contributions to the Wiki by anyone ever. I know of few contributors that have made the same impact, if any.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 1:48:56 GMT -5
Gilded WolfMy cracking the old MM is what got us all into this mess to begin with. After level limits were confirmed, clubber clans went on the rise. If anything I'm surprised more people don't blame me for this whole debacle, I personally hold myself that accountability, for when it was all speculation, Gep clubbing was far more infrequent. As far as the current state of the game goes, many of the new faces are green around the gills and consider some of the more conventional advice outdated. This, along with the scarcity of my participation as of late, has left the forum barren of many familiar faces to my eyes outside of a hand full of people and the mods. As far as my input as of late, it's no more, nor less than anyone else who's been here as long as I have would say. My vocalizations have been geared more toward pixo, but we all know how much they value player input by way of their reaction to the roundtable.
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Post by ziglodyte on May 30, 2017 2:59:54 GMT -5
I love seeing the meta stats so much; thank you for that, especially the list sorted by Silver prevalence. I hope to see the data you collect on Gold soon, since I'm one of the many stuck in Silver I/II limbo while I slowly level things right now. Getting a picture of the Gold meta that's relatively reliable would really inform my leveling decisions.
One big thing that's a tough point to judge even knowing the meta though is how to weigh prevalence vs "needs a response" in terms of countering the meta. Galahads may not make up as large a portion of the meta as Griffs, but they weigh much heavier on the "needs a specialized response for the sake of your team" scale.
Would you be interested in collecting additional data from the player community somehow? The larger the dataset the more reliable the analysis of it can be, so this could be really worthwhile and potentially done easily using an online survey. I could help with this if you have interest. This would make it much more feasible to perform the platform comparisons you're interested in as well, beyond using only your personal data from different time periods.
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Post by ziglodyte on May 30, 2017 3:05:50 GMT -5
I appreciate the vote of confidence! I'd have liked to have thought so too, but the tide appears to be turning. No, you really should be. This hangar would obviously be effective, but dagnabit is it ever boooring. Yuck.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 3:19:28 GMT -5
Unfortunately, War Robots isn't a game with much room for ingenuity. You either play what works best for you out of what works best in general, or you find yourself under someone else's foot because you tried to be original. You don't get points for originality, just for winning. Same deal for any semi-serious clan.
That being said, play how you want, but if there's any complaints about the MM or leagues, and you're not playing what everyone has established as a good setup, the only thing you have the right to complain about is a lack of a casual game mode.
Gareth/Galahad: RDB and tridents end them
Zeus carnage: Zeus Gekko Leo, Treb Gekko tasha, Quad Gekko Patton, Tri Treb Fury, Quad Treb butch end them
Ancilot: anything with Thunder+ Rockets with decent HP will end them.
Thunder lance: tons of rockets end them
Rhino: tons of rockets end them
Fujin: Zeus carnage+ Zeus carnage counters end them
DB griffins: plasma end them
PDB griffins: 500M+ sets end them
Zeus Gekko Leo: RDB+ tridents end them
Snipers: 600M+ (Zeus, Tridents, trebs gekkos) will end them, or at least incapacitate them
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Post by Alanbit on May 30, 2017 4:23:55 GMT -5
Nice article Dredd, really enjoyed reading it!
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Post by 《₩hirl》 on May 30, 2017 7:31:17 GMT -5
Dredd, great read, very insightful as always. Not meaning to derail your thread but I gotta say this. Sorry you feel that way but your devotion did bring about a time of peace. The vast majority of players (myself included) benefited your efforts and were able to give out good advice for solid results. To the point where "Maggep Clubber Hunting" became a mini sport of sorts. Sure the game now is a bit on the rocky side but Pix seem to be making an effort for EVERYTHING viable and playable. Without your efforts War Robots for all we know could have become a very stale place. And who drew that adorable Boa!
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Post by Firebeard on May 30, 2017 7:48:49 GMT -5
Good read.
So, are you suggesting to strive for a tactical Win or 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 the situation to determine if a strategic victory is possible?
Also, do you believe that the recent Buff has altered or influenced battlefield conditions creating the shift you describe in the Op-Ed?
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on May 30, 2017 8:51:41 GMT -5
Fun fact:
There is a Miller brewing facility near where I live in the northern outskirts of Cincinnati, Ohio.
The water used to make Miller Lite is part of the 'Award Winning' water from the Hamilton, Ohio water system.
Hamilton, Ohio WAS notorious for being a very polluted and dirty place for much of my childhood in the 70's and 80's and hone to several large paper companies that allegedly dumped lots of pollution into the ricers and surrounding environent.
many of those companies moved or shut down after strict EPA regulations and a coupke decades later, in the 00's, all of a sudden the city of Hamilton starts bottling their award winning spring water that won awards for its taste and Miller brewing uses the same water in their process making their LESS FILLING, BETER TASTING 'lite' beer.
and about once a month, a truck full of beer tips over rolling out of the factory... and they all lived happily ever after.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on May 30, 2017 9:19:00 GMT -5
I very much doubt that. Once most of the gear is at 8's then yeah. As he said he is under-powered, and it's true. I was in a 7/7 hanger 5+ weeks ago and now I'm in 9/8 and I am barely holding on in Gold 3, I'm holding gold 3 with a 6/6 hangar,and the only people I squad with right now are young folk that don't do very well with gear leveled well above my own(floating in silver 2/1). No one listens to me like they do Dredd though, so I'll poke at him if I want >.> My hat is off to you then, you must be an incredible pilot. I've been up and down from SIlver 1 to Gold 3 and back again. I have been stable mid-Gold 3 now for a week so perhaps I can seriously think about moving up again.
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Post by moody on Oct 12, 2017 16:31:10 GMT -5
I appreciate the vote of confidence! I'd have liked to have thought so too, but the tide appears to be turning. No, you really should be. Really really difficult to find Tinthefiends posts as a deleted member Dredd77 Wanted to show what the state of play a few months on gets. 2 week old hangar, I am not an incredible player in my own opinion. I am going to take this to 6/6 and 5 slots and see how far it takes me.
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