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Post by make7upyours on May 19, 2017 18:15:20 GMT -5
This seems like the most plausible answer to me now.
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 18:15:51 GMT -5
Yes, that's necessary and some are starting to come to opposite conclusions. Then you have the old guard who stick to their dogma (no good reasons) and you have the old veterans who just spout the same advice without considering what's changed. A lot of them prolly remembered when the Rhino was meta, and so had 5 Rhinos in their hanger. To the new players who started this year and wondering why there is a division of opinion, it stems from this. So yes, I agree, when the Rhino was meta, get 5 slots first. Now it has changed. So for the new players, you need to ask them (the 5 sloters) to state their reasons and if they have included all the changes in the game when making their decision. Instead of buying a 5th slot, I invested my gold and got 28K in gold gear back. Would I do it again, yes. So yes, it's good that you actually took a second look at your decision, Dredd77, but I did the same and came to a different conclusion. Even you say that getting a few Au stuff is more compelling nowadays. I know it can be hard to change your opinion even if this is only a game. But for me, I realized I wanted to do my best and win. I think in a few months, you'll come around. It'll take some time to decalcify. If you don't believe me, look at this poll and see the group think. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/6037/5th-slot-open-chest?page=2Many couldn't wrap their head around that the event prizings were good this time. One last thing, if you'll the Leroy Jenkins type, get that fifth slot cause your bots will die in 30 seconds anyways. (See, I just advocated for the 5th slot first) And this, folks, is the flat-earth case. "Don't buy a fifth slot because something unexpected, unforeseen, and unprecendented, like the first profitable event in the history of War Robots, is a better investment. And it may or may not ever return. Oh, and cash out your stocks and buy gold, because you'll need something to barter with when the zombie apocalypse hits." Well, scientifically speaking, it is, here is a proof: |
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 18:20:45 GMT -5
There are times where a new perspective can unearth wisdom overlooked by the calcified eyes of the jaded veteran. A fresh take. Another way of looking at the same problem, where an unconventional approach overturns conventional wisdom. Buy a few Au weapons to make the grind to 5 slots a bit more fun is not as good, but still has some things to recommend it. Yes, that's necessary and some are starting to come to opposite conclusions. Then you have the old guard who stick to their dogma (no good reasons) and you have the old veterans who just spout the same advice without considering what's changed. A lot of them prolly remembered when the Rhino was meta, and so had 5 Rhinos in their hanger. To the new players who started this year and wondering why there is a division of opinion, it stems from this. So yes, I agree, when the Rhino was meta, get 5 slots first. Now it has changed. So for the new players, you need to ask them (the 5 sloters) to state their reasons and if they have included all the changes in the game when making their decision. Instead of buying a 5th slot, I invested my gold and got 28K in gold gear back. Would I do it again, yes. So yes, it's good that you actually took a second look at your decision, Dredd77, but I did the same and came to a different conclusion. Even you say that getting a few Au stuff is more compelling nowadays. I know it can be hard to change your opinion even if this is only a game. But for me, I realized I wanted to do my best and win. I think in a few months, you'll come around. It'll take some time to decalcify. If you don't believe me, look at this poll and see the group think. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/6037/5th-slot-open-chest?page=2Many couldn't wrap their head around that the event prizings were good this time. One last thing, if you'll the Leroy Jenkins type, get that fifth slot cause your bots will die in 30 seconds anyways. (See, I just advocated for the 5th slot first) Oi vey, are you reading anything that contradicts your thoughts? Shorter version. Me. Started 10th February, by 29th of April I am 5 slots PLUS ADDITIONAL 5300 gold. Not a dime paid. Diamond2 league, 800K maximum damage. No WP bots, no Gold bots. Not a clan member, not 14-year old who can play all day. I am a noob player, but I know math well enough to figure it out. And please, research topic, or at least terms you are using, because "meta" is NOT "most effective tools available", so neither Rhino nor Lance could not be "meta". |
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Post by make7upyours on May 19, 2017 18:33:50 GMT -5
What do you mean? I thought that's what meta meant. Well, tactics not tools. But it's basically the same thing. At least in gaming, this is always how the term meta has been used. Meta refers what everyone is using right now.
I thought that guy was talking about how using rhino was the meta in his day and how people would use 5 rhinos. Am I misinterpreting something?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 18:34:01 GMT -5
Yes, that's necessary and some are starting to come to opposite conclusions. Then you have the old guard who stick to their dogma (no good reasons) and you have the old veterans who just spout the same advice without considering what's changed. A lot of them prolly remembered when the Rhino was meta, and so had 5 Rhinos in their hanger. To the new players who started this year and wondering why there is a division of opinion, it stems from this. So yes, I agree, when the Rhino was meta, get 5 slots first. Now it has changed. So for the new players, you need to ask them (the 5 sloters) to state their reasons and if they have included all the changes in the game when making their decision. Instead of buying a 5th slot, I invested my gold and got 28K in gold gear back. Would I do it again, yes. So yes, it's good that you actually took a second look at your decision, Dredd77, but I did the same and came to a different conclusion. Even you say that getting a few Au stuff is more compelling nowadays. I know it can be hard to change your opinion even if this is only a game. But for me, I realized I wanted to do my best and win. I think in a few months, you'll come around. It'll take some time to decalcify. If you don't believe me, look at this poll and see the group think. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/6037/5th-slot-open-chest?page=2Many couldn't wrap their head around that the event prizings were good this time. One last thing, if you'll the Leroy Jenkins type, get that fifth slot cause your bots will die in 30 seconds anyways. (See, I just advocated for the 5th slot first) And this, folks, is the flat-earth case. "Don't buy a fifth slot because something unexpected, unforeseen, and unprecendented, like the first profitable event in the history of War Robots, is a better investment. And it may or may not ever return. Oh, and cash out your stocks and buy gold, because you'll need something to barter with when the zombie apocalypse hits." Hey, don't blame me for the great event. Everyone had a chance to vote and voice their opinion. I did not vote, btw. I had the same information as everyone else, and had to make my own choice. |
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Post by War Child on May 19, 2017 18:49:35 GMT -5
I will only use my Plasmahad,DB Griff,and a Zarnage and the rest of my slots with weaponless cossacks and tank to bronze until I reach conclusion.
BTW,for now I'll say this.
Don't put all of your eggs in three baskets.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 18:50:12 GMT -5
There is a reason slots before bots is said.
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 18:52:14 GMT -5
What do you mean? I thought that's what meta meant. Well, tactics not tools. But it's basically the same thing. At least in gaming, this is always how the term meta has been used. Meta refers what everyone is using right now. I thought that guy was talking about how using rhino was the meta in his day and how people would use 5 rhinos. Am I misinterpreting something? "Meta" is short for "metagame" ( META) . It is tactics and strategies used to get the upperhand in a game. Tanking is a "meta". Using Ancile instead of a Thunder is a "meta". Using Rhino with Plasma is also "meta". It is far broader term than just some bot setup. Meanwhile "meta" as a "most effective tools\tactics available" is a backronym. Meaning that somebody was too lazy to look up what "meta" means, and though up his own idea. It is like calling Thunder Carnage "a hellfire config" just because you are lazy to look up into a game and see what "hellfire" refers to. I am nitpicking here because using term "meta" as one like, and this entire thread are typical examples of people who are not doing due diligence and coming up with crazy ideas, then grounding them on some purely subjective set of evidence, and using polemics to prove point. Anybody who is interested in gaming must know that there are "Game theory" out there ( GAME THEORY), which is purely mathematical, and only thing that could change outcome of one model over another is "fun factor". So, entire discussion about 5th slot should be very short: If you are bored in first two months - buy a gold bot; if you are playing to get some results - get 5th slot. So, I presume that most of the guys who advice against 5th slots are either young, and want to do something that contradicts with common sense (to rebel against public), or just more emotional that rational. But I am a bit disappointed and annoyed by use of "alternate facts" to prove one's point, that's why I started nitpicking. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 18:57:13 GMT -5
What do you mean? I thought that's what meta meant. Well, tactics not tools. But it's basically the same thing. At least in gaming, this is always how the term meta has been used. Meta refers what everyone is using right now. I thought that guy was talking about how using rhino was the meta in his day and how people would use 5 rhinos. Am I misinterpreting something? The tide is shifting. When they don't have any cogent arguments, they resort to this. Even Dredd77 says get some gold Au first, so it's a softening of viewpoint even if he doesn't want to admit it. We are actually very similar viewpoint if you look at it. It used to be "5th slot first". Now he says "5th slot first except some Au gear first maybe". Me, it's "5th slot first except some Au gear first". Yes, I am explaining to newer players like you why there is a divergence of beliefs. Where it comes from. Now no matter how much things have changed, some people don't want to change either. Yes, 5 slots first during the days of the Rhino made sense. I said this, and now my opinion has changed. |
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 19:04:04 GMT -5
What do you mean? I thought that's what meta meant. Well, tactics not tools. But it's basically the same thing. At least in gaming, this is always how the term meta has been used. Meta refers what everyone is using right now. I thought that guy was talking about how using rhino was the meta in his day and how people would use 5 rhinos. Am I misinterpreting something? The tide is shifting. When they don't have any cogent arguments, they resort to this. Even Dredd77 says get some gold Au first, so it's a softening of viewpoint even if he doesn't want to admit it. We are actually very similar viewpoint if you look at it. It used to be "5th slot first". Now he says "5th slot first except some Au gear first maybe". Me, it's "5th slot first except some Au gear first". Yes, I am explaining to newer players like you why there is a divergence of beliefs. Where it comes from. Now no matter how much things have changed, some people don't want to change either. Yes, 5 slots first during the days of the Rhino made sense. I said this, and now my opinion has changed. I like this guy =) He decided not to listen to anything I say and keeps at it. Okay, so now I am veteran, being 3.5 months into a game. Me likes that! |
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Post by Dredd77 on May 19, 2017 19:04:27 GMT -5
What do you mean? I thought that's what meta meant. Well, tactics not tools. But it's basically the same thing. At least in gaming, this is always how the term meta has been used. Meta refers what everyone is using right now. I thought that guy was talking about how using rhino was the meta in his day and how people would use 5 rhinos. Am I misinterpreting something? The tide is shifting. When they don't have any cogent arguments, they resort to this. Even Dredd77 says get some gold Au first, so it's a softening of viewpoint even if he doesn't want to admit it. We are actually very similar viewpoint if you look at it. It used to be "5th slot first". Now he says "5th slot first except some Au gear first maybe". Me, it's "5th slot first except some Au gear first". Yes, I am explaining to newer players like you why there is a divergence of beliefs. Where it comes from. Now no matter how much things have changed, some people don't want to change either. Yes, 5 slots first during the days of the Rhino made sense. I said this, and now my opinion has changed. You only undermine your case when you misrepresent me by taking me out of context to try and substantiate yours. |
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Post by make7upyours on May 19, 2017 19:07:15 GMT -5
I started this whole thing because I'm an ignorant new player and I had an idea. I didn't really feel like it contradicted common sense even though it contradicted popular opinion.
When I play a game, I typically like to get competitive. So I typically try to path myself to endgame. What kind of changed my opinion was my month of playing the game. I realized that the advice everyone was giving wasn't quite working for me. Not that it didn't work; but you need to invest a lot of time before your efforts will bear fruit. That's kind of a lot to ask for a new player without much investment into the game. Why would they want to keep grinding it out? Would the juice be worth the squeeze for the uninitiated?
In any case, my opinion for new players in bronze silver is now is to get that 4th slot, then hold off on 5th slot until your current hanger is stable enough to compete with your peers. I would also focus on upgrading 1 bot at a time, while leaving the others relatively lower level. Get levels to maybe 3-5 depending on time, then focus getting each one to maybe level 7-9.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 19, 2017 19:16:58 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous... the premise of the thread, was that 3 9/9, or whatever level, bots are better than 5 6/6, or whatever... That noobs should just roll with that.
That is, IMHO, false.
The 4th is deffo required, the 5th is too, but even from the old MM days there were allowances made in the conventional wisdom for getting a few items before that 5th if they seem needed... and usually that was a pair of Orkans. Now, that is still the same advice most of us are giving out... but some say a Gary or a Galahad is worth getting first. I only say that is possible if you have properly leveled Tarans and Mags to outfit those bots... otherwise, they are not going to do as much good for MOST folks as a 5th would. This really is the same argument it always has been... slots > bots 99% of the time. There are always exceptions to every rule and most folk will agree with that. But there is no paradigm shift in the proper thinking. You need all 5 slots. IF you need a couple of AU items to make the grind easier, then do it... but I suggest not doing anything more than 2 Orks for a DB or a Gary... anything else is most likely pushing you too far back unless you are not progressing in the leagues. In Android, you don't want to even be in Silver 1 with 3 slots, Hell, I don't like being in Silver 3 with only 4 on my lil acct.
All in all... people can do what they want with their accounts... but advice is not going to change unless there is a good reason... and as it stands, coming from both a 5 slot 10 month old account AND a new barely week old 4 slot acct perspective, I am firmly of the mind that putting off your 5th slot too far is worse than having it before you have an awesome bot to fill it.
But, as always, this is JMO, YMMV.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 19:17:33 GMT -5
Duh, why don't you get just two bots and level them up all the way to 12? No offense, Russel , but this is a dumb idea. You'd be much better off saving the 5,000Ag and sticking with one slot. Why, it's almost like a permadeath mode! #truehardcore Its "permadeth" |
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 19:25:17 GMT -5
I started this whole thing because I'm an ignorant new player and I had an idea. I didn't really feel like it contradicted common sense even though it contradicted popular opinion. When I play a game, I typically like to get competitive. So I typically try to path myself to endgame. What kind of changed my opinion was my month of playing the game. I realized that the advice everyone was giving wasn't quite working for me. Not that it didn't work; but you need to invest a lot of time before your efforts will bear fruit. That's kind of a lot to ask for a new player without much investment into the game. Why would they want to keep grinding it out? Would the juice be worth the squeeze for the uninitiated? I have posted longer versions of my story many times, so I just shorten it up. 1) I am playing for free from 10 February till 29th of April. By that time I was with 5th slot and additional 5300 gold. So you do NOT need to grind, you need to play smart, i.e. get a beacon capper to cap beacons now and then, join testserver, and that's all. 2) If you are feeling that way or another - it is fine. There is a forum member (I believe Insane Demon) who said that she(he?) wanted to play like a noob. It is one's right to play so that you are getting fun, and it is awesome thing to do. BUT If you want to give some advice - give OBJECTIVE advice, not a SUBJECTIVE one. So, if you think getting all bots to lvl9 and then getting 4th slot is fun for you - you should state that it is fun FOR YOU, and not "right thing to do" or "faster grind that way". 3) Well, personal question: If "grinding several month" for 5th slot is "boring and repetitive" then how would you call getting one set of bots and keep them all the way till the Champions league? Just wondering. 4) If you think you can't make it far without gold bots\weapons - you are plain wrong. I even think that Lancelots are so popular because they require little skill to play good, but that's just my opinion. 5) You do NOT need more time to upgrade bots if you bought 5th slot. You can keep on upgrading your 4 slots, and put stock RDB Griff in 5th. Once again, people for all the wrong reason comparing gold Gareth\Galahad with unupgraded bot in 5th slot; however the truth is that your golden bot REPLACES one of your bot in hangar, and 5th slot is ONE ADDITIONAL bot. So, you were: Griffing, Carnage, Leo, Rhino. option one: PDB Griffin, Carnage, Rhino, Galahad. option two: PDB Griffin, Carnage, Leo, Rhino, RDB Griff You can see that you are choosing between Leo+RDB Griff and Galahad. And Leo+RDB is better in battle that just Galahad. So as a final note, and I don't want to discuss this further in a thread - if it SUBJECTIVELY FEELS like Gold stuff is better for you - then you are right. It is. If you are new player, and you want what's OBJECTIVELY best - then 5th is the way to go. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 19:47:07 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous... the premise of the thread, was that 3 9/9, or whatever level, bots are better than 5 6/6, or whatever... That noobs should just roll with that. That is, IMHO, false. The 4th is deffo required, the 5th is too, but even from the old MM days there were allowances made in the conventional wisdom for getting a few items before that 5th if they seem needed... and usually that was a pair of Orkans. Now, that is still the same advice most of us are giving out... but some say a Gary or a Galahad is worth getting first. I only say that is possible if you have properly leveled Tarans and Mags to outfit those bots... otherwise, they are not going to do as much good for MOST folks as a 5th would. This really is the same argument it always has been... slots > bots 99% of the time. There are always exceptions to every rule and most folk will agree with that. But there is no paradigm shift in the proper thinking. You need all 5 slots. IF you need a couple of AU items to make the grind easier, then do it... but I suggest not doing anything more than 2 Orks for a DB or a Gary... anything else is most likely pushing you too far back unless you are not progressing in the leagues. In Android, you don't want to even be in Silver 1 with 3 slots, Hell, I don't like being in Silver 3 with only 4 on my lil acct. All in all... people can do what they want with their accounts... but advice is not going to change unless there is a good reason... and as it stands, coming from both a 5 slot 10 month old account AND a new barely week old 4 slot acct perspective, I am firmly of the mind that putting off your 5th slot too far is worse than having it before you have an awesome bot to fill it. But, as always, this is JMO, YMMV. I am going to quote you. You need all 5 slots. IF you need a couple of AU items to make the grind easier, then do it... but I suggest not doing anything more than 2 Orks for a DB or a Gary... anything else is most likely pushing you too far back unless you are not progressing in the leagues. I'm not gonna put it in my own words, because this is getting ridiculous. |
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Post by make7upyours on May 19, 2017 19:47:23 GMT -5
Russel, I recognize my opinion at the start may have been naive not considering enough points. I don't think 3 9/9 bots are superior to 5 5/5 bots to put it simply.
But I am still somewhat on the fence about 5th slot. Maybe I'll feel differently in another month.
My whole goal of this thread actually wasn't to figure out if 3 9/9 are better than 5 5/5. My end goal is to figure out a way for new players to continually progress at this game without hitting a hard wall like I am hitting right now.
New player experience shouldn't be to breeze through bronze in under a week, then be stuck at the lowest of silver 3 for a month. New players should feel like they're progressing through the game.
As players, we don't have control over other players tanking or smurfing. The only thing we have control over is how to spend our resources. so I was thinking, what I only had 3 slots but my bots were level 7-8. I feel like if I had that, I would be able to progress past silver.
But when I started the game, I leveled up all my stuff evenly. I'm now feeling it would have been better if I just leveled up a RDB Grif to level 8 from the get go before working on other bots.
lmao tho, we repeating ourselves now. I fully understand what you mean and I'm sure you're the same.
Do you truly need 5 slots in silver? I feel like 4 slots is arguable in slots favor. I'm in silver and I don't feel like I need 5 slots.
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Post by sethile on May 19, 2017 20:25:54 GMT -5
Slots before bots always.
It's the best long term strat.
Level all bots to 8/8 ish then focus one at a time to 10/10 or 11/11 depending upon your success.
Learn to corner shoot.
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Post by snk on May 19, 2017 20:37:46 GMT -5
I was basically a noob at the time, here the things I learn going for 5 slot first (start this game in January)
1. Tried almost all Ag weapons and understand how to use them and how to defend them.
2. Tried almost all Ag bots, know what the pro and con of them (eg. 4 Piñata or 4 spirals Patton)
3. After differences tried for around a month, mostly I used a PDB Griffin, Thunder/Piñata Leo, Thunder/Magnum Natasha, RBD Griffin and Punisher or Molot Griffin when I have 4 slot and beginning of 5 slots. (I don't know how does the other people have WSP for Carnage or Rhino or Tridents? 2 Tarans and 4 Magnum is what I can regenerate in ~2 months time. My next WSP purchase is Stalker, but that after I got 5th slot for a while. If someone plays less then me, he will earn Au slower than me, he probably have more time to regenerate more WSP before he got 5k Au for 5th slot.)
4. Because I don't have a beacon runner, I hardly win the beacon reward. For top damage reward, most of the time I got none or 1 Au.
5. Every time I see a Gareth, Rhino and Galahad, I have done 0 damage most of the time. They will just kill me. Skilled Galahad and Gareth won't even let me hit him by 3 low level Piñata from my slow Leo. I was just a meal for others.
6. After 5th slot, my next Au purchase was 2 Orkans, then Galahad. Purchase a Taran, Stalker, Carnage and 2 Tridents between them as well. So my new line up is
Stalker (beacon runner for gold)
PDB Griffin
DB Orkans
Plasmahad
Tridents Carnage
7. I upgraded most weapons to level 8 before my first Au weapon purchase Orkans. So I am replacing my decent level Ag weapons and bot 1 by 1 with low level Au items. I stop upgrade Stalker to upgrade Orkans, stop upgrade Orkans to upgrade Taran, stop upgrade Taran to upgrade Galahad, stop upgrade Galahad to upgrade Carnage, stop upgrade Carnage to upgrade Tridents.
8. The only upgraded during 2-3 months 5th slot journeys that I am still using are 2 Piñata (which could also be replaced by 2 Aphids), 2 Tarans and 4 Magnums. All others upgraded time and Ag spent is wasted on unused Ag weapons, ratio around 80%.
If I start over again, I will choose 2 Orkans and a Galahad after 4th slot, but before 5 slot.
1. I just don't want to be a meal for the red again, I should've enjoyed this game by killing others. (my skill has improved, may not be a meal now. But I want to kill instead of being killed)
2. Buy few more items that worth to upgrade and they are going to be useful for a long time, not going to repeat my mistake. Replacing almost all high level Ag items with stock level Au items.
3. My best bots right now are Galahad and DB Griffin, these bot at least contribute 60%-70% of my damage done, so I will not hesitate recommend to beginners. Buy them ASAP after 4th slot and start upgrade them before you save for 5kAu. It is 50 days of upgrade time if you earn average 100Au/day.
4. I have never used a Gareth, even I got them from anniversary event. But from my experience, they are great little bot for beginners to cap beacons if they don't have WSP for Stalker.
This is just my experience went for 5th slot first.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on May 20, 2017 1:22:02 GMT -5
4th slot should be your first priority. After that 2 orkans is the only thing I would ever consider to be worth buying over the 5th slot. Slots allow you to earn more gold by giving you a deep hangar. Concentrating on beacon capping using disposable bots like the Cossack and stalker would give you a great chance of winning the beacon capture medal. Orkans can help you win by dishing out massive burst damage and can be mounted on a lot of non Au bots and still be very effective.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 1:36:01 GMT -5
Depends how you play...AND your team
More slots allows you to play many ways, but i thinks a smart well weaponed player can do great with 3 bots.
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on May 20, 2017 7:52:32 GMT -5
This actually brings up a very good question. Do any pro-tier players try to climb with limited slots? Like 1-3 slots on their account just to prove a point. I feel like if someone is good enough, they can survive and do well even with 1-2 bots. Kind of like in Clash Royale how people will play level 1 accounts to higher arenas. 100% of top-tier hangars have 5 slots. There are NO exceptions. |
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on May 20, 2017 7:53:49 GMT -5
Depends how you play...AND your team More slots allows you to play many ways, but i thinks a smart well weaponed player can do great with 3 bots. They will do fantasic for about 5 or 6 minutes. Too bad the match lasts for 10... |
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on May 20, 2017 7:55:32 GMT -5
3 strong bots < 5x Thunder Pinata Leos AND YOU KNOW DLR IS A SUCKER FOR A LEO. WILLIE DYNAMITE FOR LIFE! |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on May 20, 2017 9:27:30 GMT -5
3 slot is a dumb idea - don't do it Just lost a game we were comfortably, comfortably winning because we had a 3 slot (9/9) and 4 slot who mech'd out early and left us 4vs6. We held on but in the end I was left running solo, they took 5 beacon control when they only had a sliver left. 3 more bots would have made all the difference I'm playing D1 iOS with a 5 slot (9/9)     |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on May 20, 2017 9:47:00 GMT -5
I was more so thinking about being 「deteriorated bum-bum」 enough to climb to expert with only 1 bot slot. I feel like in silver at least, you don't really NEED a 4th slot. If my bots were a little bit higher level, I can easily last entire matches on 2-3 bots. I already last entire matches on 1-2 bots. Having three slots limits your learning curve in War Robots. Particularly with finding the right aggression balance. One of the most trusted War Robots players wrote a great article about how you should get close to mech'ing out after 10 mins with a 5-slot hanger. Otherwise you probably haven't been aggressive enough in attack or taking beacons. Having three slots you'll never learn this balance, you'll stunt your growth as a player and pick up bad playing habits difficult to shake at higher levels. |
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 10:45:09 GMT -5
I was more so thinking about being 「deteriorated bum-bum」 enough to climb to expert with only 1 bot slot. I feel like in silver at least, you don't really NEED a 4th slot. If my bots were a little bit higher level, I can easily last entire matches on 2-3 bots. I already last entire matches on 1-2 bots. Having three slots limits your learning curve in War Robots. Particularly with finding the right aggression balance. One of the most trusted War Robots players wrote a great article about how you should get close to mech'ing out after 10 mins with a 5-slot hanger. Otherwise you probably haven't been aggressive enough in attack or taking beacons. Having three slots you'll never learn this balance, you'll stunt your growth as a player and pick up bad playing habits difficult to shake at higher levels. Well, 5 slot also helps you understand your bots better. As an example - I was running two Griffins and two Leos (plus Cossack) with different loadouts when I just started playing the game. Now I am running three Jesses and two Docs with different hangars to see which is best. This helps A LOT - when you can test out several different setups on SAME map against SAME enemies with SAME blue bots on support. If you change bots between the battles - you would never know the difference, because there is no two battles alike. And again, you can put bot "who sucks at half of the maps", as one of the forum members said, who clearly don't understand what "diversity" means, and you are able to enjoy your sniper Natasha\Butch on Yama\Springfield without risking to compromise your hangar on Moon\PowerPlant. |
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Post by snk on May 20, 2017 12:21:50 GMT -5
Double post
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Post by snk on May 20, 2017 12:26:07 GMT -5
3 slot is a dumb idea - don't do it Just lost a game we were comfortably, comfortably winning because we had a 3 slot (9/9) and 4 slot who mech'd out early and left us 4vs6. We held on but in the end I was left running solo, they took 5 beacon control when they only had a sliver left. 3 more bots would have made all the difference I'm playing D1 iOS with a 5 slot (9/9) 3 slot hanger with only 1 Au item in Diamond 3? That impressive, there are many 5 slot hanger can't even reach gold league. The Galahad must've won him a lot of match and league point. That not good for him. You really don't need to blame others, especially without cover their in game Id and name. You team with D3 this match, you may team with Expert 1 next match, can they blame you as well if you perform worse than them? |
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 20, 2017 12:47:00 GMT -5
Just saying, any guy, no matter 12/12 or anything without 5 slots in their hangar will never be respected on the field as a skilled player. Why do you want to be respected in a game, though? Check yourself!  One might consider taking one's own advice. Respect is a worthy endeavor, regardless of the arena. As is maintaing one's dignity. And cutting one's nose to spite their face, just to rail at the "patriarchy" certainly lacks both dignity and respect. Both of these traits are lacking in many people's posts these days. If you're good with that, then so be it, but one might reconsider their approach if one wishes to be taken seriously, here and in the dreaded outside world. Just saying. And if there ever was a thread to show new players the art of foolish rebuttals, this one takes the cake. Get you slots. Don't make foolish arguments. Don't ask questions that you don't want to hear the answers to. |
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