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Post by Dredd77 on May 11, 2017 12:25:31 GMT -5
Good read as always. Nice to know that Android users have similar problems at low levels. You haven't mentioned how bad tanking is in Android though. Does it not occur as much there? Thanks! It's my estimation that tanking is worse in Android, but again I'm not comparing apples to apples. It could be that Silver iOS is just as bad, I've just never played there. In iOS Diamond it's occasional. In my limited Android experience, it's nearly chronic.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on May 11, 2017 13:13:09 GMT -5
Hey I got a shout out! Good read Dredd. Looking forward to the progression of this account (given your limited time).
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Post by War Child on May 11, 2017 13:24:12 GMT -5
Yup,that tunnel in moon is a slug fest,I prefer to flank with my thunder carnage,but since I've never played in iOS before,I've grown accustomed to it.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 11, 2017 13:32:00 GMT -5
And with the solid experience level from IOS play he doesn't brick like other wallet warriors who drop that kind of money from the start would. He must've rage quit his first android account and started over with $$$. You forgot your underscore on your account there, Blasty. Dredd goes by Dredd_77 in game in both iOS and Android.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 11, 2017 13:41:16 GMT -5
He must've rage quit his first android account and started over with $$$. You forgot your underscore on your account there, Blasty. Dredd goes by Dredd_77 in game in both iOS and Android. Poor Blastro's been working overtime on that gag trying to get it to stick. Total Return on Investment for his time? One (1) concerned Nitro Squad admin asking if this might actually be me before booting it from their clan. Otherwise...
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Post by Paps on May 11, 2017 13:43:22 GMT -5
Interesting read. Sounds like Silver League is not somewhere anyone would want to be...
There're shadows on Android. Not very defined, but present. At least on my phone.
Anyhoo, not much to say otherwise. Except...was the Silver Bullet thing in the title intentional? My favorite use of the term is for a rectal thermometer. Heh. Heheh. Might have been intentional, after all.
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[AurN] perfectlyGoodInk
Aurora Clan Moderator
Posts: 729
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Platform: Android
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Favorite robot: Bishop from Aliens, although WALL-E is a close second
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on May 11, 2017 13:44:03 GMT -5
As Bud Brigman from The Abyss would say, keep yer pantyhose on. Here's what he's running. It's just as he described, a pretty robust hangar that's not leveled all that high yet. No Ancilot either. C'mon guys. He shares a Discord server with us Aurora Android folks. He knows what a typical Silver hangar in Android looks like. Notice that he hasn't yet done his trademark breakdown of number of slots and bots he's seen with percentages. I'm guessing the next part is going to cover that along with the hangar reveal, and the ha ha, gotcha! I would note that this does highlight that this Leagues/MM system takes much, much longer to correctly place someone like this compared to Elo or TrueSkill or even a hangar-based MM. (oh, and sorry if I spoiled the punchline!)
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Post by hi5 on May 11, 2017 15:28:56 GMT -5
Question for the PC emulator pilots - is this only a feature of Android or is it possible on mac for iOS server?
Just wondering how much impact that makes if it's Android only. May be too small a population, but could contribute to a wider variation of skill in Android (in addition to it being a much larger population). I would imagine an emulator gives some advantages over mobile, but more importantly a pilot willing to go through the trouble to set that up vs just playing on a phone will likely be more dedicated and thus more skilled as well.
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Post by zer00eyz on May 11, 2017 15:57:24 GMT -5
Question for the PC emulator pilots - is this only a feature of Android or is it possible on mac for iOS server? Just wondering how much impact that makes if it's Android only. May be too small a population, but could contribute to a wider variation of skill in Android (in addition to it being a much larger population). I would imagine an emulator gives some advantages over mobile, but more importantly a pilot willing to go through the trouble to set that up vs just playing on a phone will likely be more dedicated and thus more skilled as well. You could probably run the IOS version under emulation as well... The OS X version of IOS emulation tends to run FASTER than the actual devices. You might be on to something but from the wrong angle. The variable quality of android devices means that there are probably a lot of pilots out there on underpowered hardware.... people who might be "better" are really worse.
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Post by blastronaut on May 11, 2017 16:20:30 GMT -5
As Bud Brigman from The Abyss would say, keep yer pantyhose on. Here's what he's running. It's just as he described, a pretty robust hangar that's not leveled all that high yet. No Ancilot either. C'mon guys. He shares a Discord server with us Aurora Android folks. He knows what a typical Silver hangar in Android looks like. Notice that he hasn't yet done his trademark breakdown of number of slots and bots he's seen with percentages. I'm guessing the next part is going to cover that along with the hangar reveal, and the ha ha, gotcha! I would note that this does highlight that this Leagues/MM system takes much, much longer to correctly place someone like this compared to Elo or TrueSkill or even a hangar-based MM. (oh, and sorry if I spoiled the punchline!) LMAO, a level 22 running a 5 slot gold hangar. What an ?poo place?. I'm ?firetruck?ing dying I'm laughing so hard. It's confirmed Dredd77 , you're the worst. *edit* 3 midrangers SMH.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 11, 2017 16:34:31 GMT -5
As Bud Brigman from The Abyss would say, keep yer pantyhose on. Here's what he's running. It's just as he described, a pretty robust hangar that's not leveled all that high yet. No Ancilot either. C'mon guys. He shares a Discord server with us Aurora Android folks. He knows what a typical Silver hangar in Android looks like. Notice that he hasn't yet done his trademark breakdown of number of slots and bots he's seen with percentages. I'm guessing the next part is going to cover that along with the hangar reveal, and the ha ha, gotcha! I would note that this does highlight that this Leagues/MM system takes much, much longer to correctly place someone like this compared to Elo or TrueSkill or even a hangar-based MM. (oh, and sorry if I spoiled the punchline!) LMAO, a level 22 running a 5 slot gold hangar. What an ?poo place?. I'm ?firetruck?ing dying I'm laughing so hard. It's confirmed Dredd77 , you're the worst. *edit* 3 midrangers SMH. Your continuing fascination with how I spend my leisure time is adorable. You can argue my choices all you like, but you can't argue with the results. I do get it, though. When I read that you spend time crying in Nitro Squad chat about not getting the respect you deserve on the Wiki Forum, I had a not dissimilar reaction.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on May 11, 2017 20:55:22 GMT -5
-_- Ancilot in Silver III? Dooooood. That's the kind of players that really really piss others off. Well atleast me. It's like bringing a gun into a fistfight. At Silver III most are still into molots. But well, I guess I am seeing a lot of Anciturds and Galadots. Probably due to event? Never thought I'd miss Arty Nattys, even if just to break the britbot monotony. My guess is it's not so much the rigs, it's the tanking that keeps those rigs in lower-league circulation. My ticket is one-way only. Also, don't know it it's any better, but my Lance is of the Thundorkan variety. I have an Ancile, but I just don't care for it on the Lance. I still cant figure out how to get my Ancile to shoot anything so it just sits collecting next to my Noricums.
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Post by zman on May 11, 2017 21:20:45 GMT -5
Hmmm... so far we can determine that Diamond quality IOS skills are vastly superior to Silver Tiered competition.
Keep it coming Dredd! I look forward to you reaching roughly equivalent tiers.
Too bad you can't pick up an identical hanger in each and sun some data, but you'd have to reset your IOS league score first.
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Post by moody on May 11, 2017 22:44:59 GMT -5
As tricky mentioned in a previous post. Android leagues have tightened dramatically since the event. Gold only meets gold, silver only meets silver etc.
Gold league has become suddenly very easy compared to what it was. I am sure that silver is the same.
Not comparing apples to apples between 3 weeks ago and today.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 11, 2017 22:48:37 GMT -5
Hmmm... so far we can determine that Diamond quality IOS skills are vastly superior to Silver Tiered competition. Keep it coming Dredd! I look forward to you reaching roughly equivalent tiers. Too bad you can't pick up an identical hanger in each and sun some data, but you'd have to reset your IOS league score first. Gods, can you imagine if Pixonic gave me the keys to the kingdom? I'd be playing for spectrum data all the time.
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Post by zman on May 11, 2017 23:05:02 GMT -5
Hmmm... so far we can determine that Diamond quality IOS skills are vastly superior to Silver Tiered competition. Keep it coming Dredd! I look forward to you reaching roughly equivalent tiers. Too bad you can't pick up an identical hanger in each and sun some data, but you'd have to reset your IOS league score first. Gods, can you imagine if Pixonic gave me the keys to the kingdom? I'd be playing for spectrum data all the time. Can we petition that?? I mean see if they'll give you a selection of bots and weapons all at level 8 and resetting your league score daily to the average of the two accounts. It'd be amazing!!!
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on May 11, 2017 23:46:53 GMT -5
I'm a fan of your writing - don't get me wrong, but... It's obvious why you went on that mega-run upon entering silver, and it has a lot to do with 25,000+ gold spent on your hangar before your 70th win. Survivability in silver is key, and your 2 midrangers and 3 shield bots should rule the roost in a league populated with very few shield bots and a few lower powered midrange splashers. My 2nd acct is about the same place (almost silver 1) after about 240 wins, but struggling to get there with only a gary for gold bots and no gold weapons. I guess I don't see how people think this is a valid comparison of platforms when you toss that much gold into the mix almost immediately. It's more a description of how a gold level hangar runs through android silver quickly, which isn't much of a surprise. Now your stats gathering on opposition and teammates is a lot more relevant. I look forward to seeing what you've collected there, especially since the recent sequestration of silver leaguers and gold leaguers within their own league.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 11, 2017 23:59:09 GMT -5
I'm a fan of your writing - don't get me wrong, but... It's obvious why you went on that mega-run upon entering silver, and it has a lot to do with 25,000+ gold spent on your hangar before your 70th win. Survivability in silver is key, and your 2 midrangers and 3 shield bots should rule the roost in a league populated with very few shield bots and a few lower powered midrange splashers. My 2nd acct is about the same place (almost silver 1) after about 240 wins, but struggling to get there with only a gary for gold bots and no gold weapons. I guess I don't see how people think this is a valid comparison of platforms when you toss that much gold into the mix almost immediately. It's more a description of how a gold level hangar runs through android silver quickly, which isn't much of a surprise. Now your stats gathering on opposition and teammates is a lot more relevant. I look forward to seeing what you've collected there, especially since the recent sequestration of silver leaguers and gold leaguers within their own league. I've got a piece coming up tomorrow explaining some of the context around this. But the long and the short of it is this- it's not meant to be a comparison. It was meant to be a quick way to capture a lot of data in a short amount of time by taking advantage of the opportunity given by the Event. As I moved up from Private 1, a narrative was sort of attached to it by posts here, "what's gonna happen when...," etc, and that's in good fun. But it's not the point at all, and if that point is unclear, then I need to make it more clear. Ive never gotten into the platform thing. I play a game with what I've got on what I've got.
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on May 12, 2017 5:15:50 GMT -5
I'm a fan of your writing - don't get me wrong, but... It's obvious why you went on that mega-run upon entering silver, and it has a lot to do with 25,000+ gold spent on your hangar before your 70th win. Survivability in silver is key, and your 2 midrangers and 3 shield bots should rule the roost in a league populated with very few shield bots and a few lower powered midrange splashers. My 2nd acct is about the same place (almost silver 1) after about 240 wins, but struggling to get there with only a gary for gold bots and no gold weapons. I guess I don't see how people think this is a valid comparison of platforms when you toss that much gold into the mix almost immediately. It's more a description of how a gold level hangar runs through android silver quickly, which isn't much of a surprise. Now your stats gathering on opposition and teammates is a lot more relevant. I look forward to seeing what you've collected there, especially since the recent sequestration of silver leaguers and gold leaguers within their own league. I've got a piece coming up tomorrow explaining some of the context around this. But the long and the short of it is this- it's not meant to be a comparison. It was meant to be a quick way to capture a lot of data in a short amount of time by taking advantage of the opportunity given by the Event. As I moved up from Private 1, a narrative was sort of attached to it by posts here, "what's gonna happen when...," etc, and that's in good fun. But it's not the point at all, and if that point is unclear, then I need to make it more clear. Ive never gotten into the platform thing. I play a game with what I've got on what I've got. I get that it wasn't your point, to design an experiment to compare platforms - I'm actually with you on that. By people I meant those that are taking it as an effort to do that- I didn't mean you. I just meant that the great run you went on was hangar based. Kinda 2 points that got mashed together in a sloppy sleep-deprived post Keep it up - love reading your stuff, and if you had to choose something to put down I'm glad it was modding and not the blog.
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Post by hyderier on May 12, 2017 5:48:03 GMT -5
Wait, what? You run Zeus-Ancile Fury and Thunder-Ork Lance and whatnot, and you wonder about hitting a wall? With bots and weps like that, you *are* part of the wall in Android Silver. Did I misunderstand something? (Me, I'm running along that wall with my light-medium hangar, trying desperately to stay in Silver but currently looks like I can't help being in Gold3... perhaps when I get a Rog and switch my Thunder Carnage for it, it'll lower my damage and I'll drop back... one can only hope.)
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Post by Tatamat on May 12, 2017 6:11:42 GMT -5
And with the solid experience level from IOS play he doesn't brick like other wallet warriors who drop that kind of money from the start would. He must've rage quit his first android account and started over with $$$. Waving a fake Dredd account is entertainment not worthy King of all Garys. However, I can see that you've put some effort in it. Last time I've seen it the account was in Private league BTW, still waiting for the first Gareth Manifesto edition
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Post by SGT D00M! on May 12, 2017 7:43:28 GMT -5
As tricky mentioned in a previous post. Android leagues have tightened dramatically since the event. Gold only meets gold, silver only meets silver etc. Gold league has become suddenly very easy compared to what it was. I am sure that silver is the same. Not comparing apples to apples between 3 weeks ago and today. I wonder if that is why I have started gaining league points steadily again...
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phoenix232
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Post by phoenix232 on May 12, 2017 22:15:43 GMT -5
ITT - Android plays are mostly dumb as rocks.
As an Android player, I thoroughly support this conclusion.
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