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Post by morel22 on May 2, 2017 17:16:07 GMT -5
So after winning three Lances and more than 5 Anciles in the event so far, I put together this hangar which I always wished I could build. Still has a long way on the upgrade path though to maximize it, and one trident to go.. Alternatively have three level 8 Zeus at hand, but the Zeus bug kept me from investing in upgrading them any further; also the abundance of the brit bots makes the Tridents more effective. But before going all the way and invest all the time and silver in upgrading this hangar, I would like some feedback from the experienced first. And what about going for a fifth Ancilot? Thanks.
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Post by crave1ne on May 2, 2017 17:30:55 GMT -5
If it were I, I'd at least throw a thunder on one of the orks, or tarans. Thunders with Tarans rack up damage points. And, if I'm not mistaken... I think the "Zeus bug" has been fixed. I run Zeus on a carnage and find nothing wrong with it. THey are leveled to 10 and can pop Shields in 4 shots. With a Fury that has three and leveled up, you could pop a lance shield in three shots... If you enjoy brawling, I'd say level all the lance's up. I personally would have at least a Galahad as a runner to even it all out. But, that's just me...
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Post by morel22 on May 2, 2017 17:44:21 GMT -5
If it were I, I'd at least throw a thunder on one of the orks, or tarans. Thunders with Tarans rack up damage points. And, if I'm not mistaken... I think the "Zeus bug" has been fixed. I run Zeus on a carnage and find nothing wrong with it. THey are leveled to 10 and can pop Shields in 4 shots. With a Fury that has three and leveled up, you could pop a lance shield in three shots... If you enjoy brawling, I'd say level all the lance's up. I personally would have at least a Galahad as a runner to even it all out. But, that's just me... Good to know that the bug has been fixed. Is it confirmed to be the case with everyone? I have 6 Galahads (won 5 during this event ) as well. One of them at level 9 (the one I already had). Not sure why I didn't like it. For damage it doesn't come close to an Ancilot. And for beacons a Gary is way better at it. I mean the last minute run when both teams are down in numbers and capturing a beacon could make all the difference. For holding beacons I also found an Ancilot to be better than a Galahad,since you don't need to capture the beacon yourself, you can arrive later after a teammate already taken it, and hold it.. Not sure if I'm missing something, but so far the Lance has been my best bet. I went all Ancile over a one or two thunders due to Tridents and Orks.. I face so many of them that my thunder Ork Lance was a hit or miss.. Never consistent enough to rely on it. Depends on the bot ambush in me around the corner and how good the Trident pilots are..
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Post by noobcake on May 2, 2017 17:51:23 GMT -5
Holy crap. How much gold did you sink??
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Post by morel22 on May 2, 2017 17:58:48 GMT -5
Holy crap. How much gold did you sink?? I think I got really lucky in the event so far.. But ran out of luck eventually. Check my other thread. I did invest real money though. But no where near the value of the winnings I collected.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 18:17:43 GMT -5
I have 3 Lances now, but only plan to run two of them. One as Ancilot, the other as a thunder Ork. Lance is a great brawler, but I think not having any speed would be troublesome on some maps, difficult in solo play, and frankly, won't you get tired of all the waddling?
My lineup once I level the 2nd Lance will be Thunder/Ork Lance, Taran Ancilot, Plasma Galahad, DB Griff, and Zeus Carnage/Zeus Fury (not sure which one yet).
That may change, but I think all Lance and Fury would be just too slow to enjoy.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on May 2, 2017 18:23:58 GMT -5
So after winning three Lances and more than 5 Anciles in the event so far, I put together this hangar which I always wished I could build. Still has a long way on the upgrade path though to maximize it, and one trident to go.. Alternatively have three level 8 Zeus at hand, but the Zeus bug kept me from investing in upgrading them any further; also the abundance of the brit bots makes the Tridents more effective. But before going all the way and invest all the time and silver in upgrading this hangar, I would like some feedback from the experienced first. And what about going for a fifth Ancilot? Thanks. I'd not recommend even 3 Ancilots unless you are always playing in a squad AND you like placing always in the mid-to-bottom of damages. The Ancilot will be under serious pressure from the tri-Orkan and tri-Taran Dash Mk2 setups, as getting the Dash inside the shield is a snap with a level jump (for the tri-Orkans, you basically aim at the Lance, jump, and hit it with your bot to be inside its Ancil). Try 2 Ancilots (with Tarans) and 2 Thunder/Orkan Lances. The 5th bot COULD be a 3rd Ancilot if you squad. If you random, then I'd go Zeus/Taran Lance (as your 5th Lance) or the Triple Trident Fury (yeah, you need that 3rd Trident - the Zeus is holding it back from being a deadly threat to Gareths and Galahads). It will be some time I think until the Dash bots get here, so I'd slowly upgrade the Lances, some Thunders, and that third Trident. What I've recommended will take a 500-700M silver I think, but if you can upgrade everything evenly and without speedup (on upgrades), you should be able to earn the silver to keep up.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on May 2, 2017 18:35:10 GMT -5
Looks like the most boring hangar to run EVER. But hey, if you want to invest all that time into something that you don't think will ever get boring then go for it!
I'd suggest rounding it out so that you can compete in different ways instead of just being the fire ?hot stuff? taking a pounding all the time.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on May 2, 2017 19:46:22 GMT -5
I would agree that 4 Lances regardless of the weapons would be to slow and get boring. I think it would also get frustrating on big maps just to engage. I run an Ancilot and could see running a regular Lancelot with it. Not sure what I swap it with and saving another 5k in Au has little appeal right now.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 20:30:30 GMT -5
If you enjoy tânking, then go with the line up. It takes no brains and little strategy, so just charge in thru the front door and kick it down.
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Post by The VVatcher on May 3, 2017 5:40:21 GMT -5
Teamates would love you for this line up lol
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 9:01:30 GMT -5
If you put a Thunder on 2 of the Lancelots, you'd be helping your team more.
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Post by morel22 on May 3, 2017 17:40:48 GMT -5
If you put a Thunder on 2 of the Lancelots, you'd be helping your team more. Could you please elaborate? Since I got many tips recommending a Thunder on one or two Lances of the four I run, I'm trying it out now.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 17:43:19 GMT -5
If you put a Thunder on 2 of the Lancelots, you'd be helping your team more. Could you please elaborate? Since I got many tips recommending a Thunder on one or two Lances of the four I run, I'm trying it out now. Use: Thunder Orkan Lancelot Thunder Taran Lancelot Ancile Taran Lancelot Ancile Orkan Lancelot or 2x Thunder Orkan Lancelot 2x Ancile Taran Lancelot
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Post by morel22 on May 3, 2017 17:48:25 GMT -5
If you enjoy tânking, then go with the line up. It takes no brains and little strategy, so just charge in thru the front door and kick it down. Actually its never this easy. I think this is a misconception many have it printed in mind against the Lance.. I think the Fury requires very little strategy.. But any close combat bot must be driven with skill as well as tactics.. If I just push my forward I'd do little damage and die quickly.. Taking cover, ambushing, flanking, know how to deal with flankees, lure the reds to you and make space for teammates, and most importantly know what beacon to run to, all are part of a Lance's game.. Same as Galahad and Griffin, the two most admired bots around here.. Difference with an Ancilots is that it takes way more beating, and thus has better survivability chances.. The Rush ability must also be utilized correctly and efficiently. As hard as Griffins jump to make the most out of it..
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Post by morel22 on May 3, 2017 17:51:00 GMT -5
Could you please elaborate? Since I got many tips recommending a Thunder on one or two Lances of the four I run, I'm trying it out now. Use: Thunder Orkan Lancelot Thunder Taran Lancelot Ancile Taran Lancelot Ancile Orkan Lancelot or 2x Thunder Orkan Lancelot 2x Ancile Taran Lancelot I currently utilized the first setup.. But I meant, how exactly I would be helping my teammates more? By doing more damage or something to do with strategy?
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Post by morel22 on May 3, 2017 17:52:54 GMT -5
@darkangel12s
Btw, would you recommend using a Zeus instead of one or both thunders?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 17:54:28 GMT -5
I currently utilized the first setup.. But I meant, how exactly I would be helping my teammates more? By doing more damage or something to do with strategy? Yes, you'd be doing more damage and clearing beacons so that your teammates can capture them.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 17:55:09 GMT -5
@darkangel12s Btw, would you recommend using a Zeus instead of one or both thunders? No Zeus on the Lancelot. The Zeus Taran Lancelot is a workable build, but it is super defensive and it doesn't do much damage as a Thunder version would.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 18:05:11 GMT -5
If you enjoy tânking, then go with the line up. It takes no brains and little strategy, so just charge in thru the front door and kick it down. Actually its never this easy. I think this is a misconception many have it printed in mind against the Lance.. I think the Fury requires very little strategy.. But any close combat bot must be driven with skill as well as tactics.. If I just push my forward I'd do little damage and die quickly.. Taking cover, ambushing, flanking, know how to deal with flankees, lure the reds to you and make space for teammates, and most importantly know what beacon to run to, all are part of a Lance's game.. Same as Galahad and Griffin, the two most admired bots around here.. Difference with an Ancilots is that it takes way more beating, and thus has better survivability chances.. The Rush ability must also be utilized correctly and efficiently. As hard as Griffins jump to make the most out of it.. It's fun to tânk and let the bot do all the work for you. I have 2 Lancelots, so I prefer my Ancilò more. I might run 1 and 1. But if I want to bash in their heads, I will run all tânkers, and still score respectable. Running something, ... anything, like a Fujin or Stalker or Griffin or Galahad requires more skill. With Lancelot, I just scream Leeeroy Jenkins!!! It works; It's easy.
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Post by morel22 on May 3, 2017 18:17:18 GMT -5
Actually its never this easy. I think this is a misconception many have it printed in mind against the Lance.. I think the Fury requires very little strategy.. But any close combat bot must be driven with skill as well as tactics.. If I just push my forward I'd do little damage and die quickly.. Taking cover, ambushing, flanking, know how to deal with flankees, lure the reds to you and make space for teammates, and most importantly know what beacon to run to, all are part of a Lance's game.. Same as Galahad and Griffin, the two most admired bots around here.. Difference with an Ancilots is that it takes way more beating, and thus has better survivability chances.. The Rush ability must also be utilized correctly and efficiently. As hard as Griffins jump to make the most out of it.. It's fun to tânk and let the bot do all the work for you. I have 2 Lancelots, so I prefer my Ancilò more. I might run 1 and 1. But if I want to bash in their heads, I will run all tânkers, and still score respectable. Running something, ... anything, like a Fujin or Stalker or Griffin or Galahad requires more skill. With Lancelot, I just scream Leeeroy Jenkins!!! It works; It's easy. It's easier in that it's more forgiving.. That is if you do a mistake and read a certain scenario wrong then you'd come out less damaged with a Lance or an Ancilots than a Griff of a galahad.. And of course you gain immunity to TT Fury with an Ancilots which lets you do extra stuff undoable with a galahad or a Griff..
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Post by gr3ygh05t on May 3, 2017 18:26:59 GMT -5
I have 3 Lances now, but only plan to run two of them. One as Ancilot, the other as a thunder Ork. Lance is a great brawler, but I think not having any speed would be troublesome on some maps, difficult in solo play, and frankly, won't you get tired of all the waddling? My lineup once I level the 2nd Lance will be Thunder/Ork Lance, Taran Ancilot, Plasma Galahad, DB Griff, and Zeus Carnage/Zeus Fury (not sure which one yet). That may change, but I think all Lance and Fury would be just too slow to enjoy. This is pretty much what I'm shooting for except I'm going with tridents on my carny.
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