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Post by GreenFace on May 2, 2017 14:50:39 GMT -5
Hello guys & gals (girls, not Galahads) I've run 2 accounts simultaneously, just for experiment's sake. In GreenFace Titan, I've run with "bots before weapons" upgrade and "bots/weaps before 5th slot" states of mind. In Classic 69, I've run the opposite ("weapons before bots" and "5th slot before bots/weaps"). I've made up my mind with the first account upgrade policies, but I think I wanna listen what you more experienced players think first before I choose my preference on the second account. Thank you for the help... GreenFace Titan & Classic 69 signing out
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Post by Fredrick on May 2, 2017 15:01:59 GMT -5
I voted for the last option. I try to keep my bots at the same average. This allows for some flexibility in upgrades. Weapon levels range from 7-9 on bots. This way, I can upgrade what I can afford in silver at that moment.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 2, 2017 15:17:52 GMT -5
Depends on what I have to do in real life. If it's a work day, I try to get long upgrades started when I wake up so I can start upgrading something else when I get home or before I go to bed. At the moment, I'm upgrading everything to level 6. I bought a magnum today, so I've been upgrading it from level 1... currently has 30 minutes until it's level 5.
Edit: Well, I'm not upgrading everything... just the weapons and then bots I use.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:28:13 GMT -5
I am playing 2 accounts and doing the same thing. Not buying my 5th slot, and gonna gamble to win a Butch or something nice. I'm more experienced for my level, so my bot and weapons are underleveled compared to my competition, sometimes by 3 levels. I don't frequently mech out, so I am gonna focus more on upgrading one or 2 bots first. Just to try something different, and see if it works. So that's my vote. (Upgrade 1 or 2 bots and their weapons)
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Post by GreenFace on May 2, 2017 17:56:12 GMT -5
I voted for the last option. I try to keep my bots at the same average. This allows for some flexibility in upgrades. Weapon levels range from 7-9 on bots. This way, I can upgrade what I can afford in silver at that moment. Depends on what I have to do in real life. If it's a work day, I try to get long upgrades started when I wake up so I can start upgrading something else when I get home or before I go to bed. At the moment, I'm upgrading everything to level 6. I bought a magnum today, so I've been upgrading it from level 1... currently has 30 minutes until it's level 5. Edit: Well, I'm not upgrading everything... just the weapons and then bots I use. I am playing 2 accounts and doing the same thing. Not buying my 5th slot, and gonna gamble to win a Butch or something nice. I'm more experienced for my level, so my bot and weapons are underleveled compared to my competition, sometimes by 3 levels. I don't frequently mech out, so I am gonna focus more on upgrading one or 2 bots first. Just to try something different, and see if it works. So that's my vote. (Upgrade 1 or 2 bots and their weapons) Thanks for the valuable advices, guys... I'll consider those. Anybody else?
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Post by moody on May 2, 2017 23:03:27 GMT -5
Depends on what I have to do in real life. If it's a work day, I try to get long upgrades started when I wake up so I can start upgrading something else when I get home or before I go to bed. At the moment, I'm upgrading everything to level 6. I bought a magnum today, so I've been upgrading it from level 1... currently has 30 minutes until it's level 5. Edit: Well, I'm not upgrading everything... just the weapons and then bots I use. Wow, you are in the early stages. I choose between 1 day and 3 day upgrades.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on May 2, 2017 23:38:31 GMT -5
Hello guys & gals (girls, not Galahads) I've run 2 accounts simultaneously, just for experiment's sake. In GreenFace Titan, I've run with "bots before weapons" upgrade and "bots/weaps before 5th slot" states of mind. In Classic 69, I've run the opposite ("weapons before bots" and "5th slot before bots/weaps"). I've made up my mind with the first account upgrade policies, but I think I wanna listen what you more experienced players think first before I choose my preference on the second account. Thank you for the help... GreenFace Titan & Classic 69 signing out GreenFace, What level is your hangar? I have different levels on my weapons depending on use. I was leveling across hangar but now - I want each bot to be more effective & level out the bot or at least all meds or all lights then next bot. I have my brawlers leveled up in weapons first, then mid-range, then flankers/ambush. It goes like this for me: bot/weapon Ancilot 10/10-11/11 Galahad 10/10 Carnage / Fury 8-9/10/11 - both bots L8 and leveling Carnage to 9 now Griffin 9/10 Griffin 9/10 I am planning on finishing mid-range to L9, then will be working on all weapons to L11. I will level either Galahad (mags) or Griffin (Orkans) next. Hope that helps. I am in Expert III and halfway to Expert II.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 23:49:56 GMT -5
I upgrade weapons by type, if that makes any sense. First tarans, then mags, then orkans, then the rest. My logic is my galahad and ancilot live longest, and fire the most shots per match, so I get my plasma levelled first, then the rockets. I do complete a level for everything before moving plasma up. Currently at 10/10, upgrading plasma to 11.
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Post by yunisanpon on May 2, 2017 23:55:26 GMT -5
I voted #5 and wanted to put my opinion as below; First, upgrading weapons should be prioritized than bots. Second, once you felt it became difficult to survive through the gameplay within upgrading weapons, you had better to switch to upgrade bots. Third, if you reached bots' level around 9, I would recommend to try to upgrade weapons for the bot primary use. With these above procedures, you will earn given damage effectively within only one bot which with the weapons you prioritized to upgrade than others. It's case by case whether or not your primary bot can survive through the gameplay, but in case your primary bot could survive, the given damage would be produced by the weapons you prioritized to upgrade - stronger than others - then the total given damage through the gameplay would be the best (higher than the case with weaker weapons), which means best Ag gain within your bots. As you would know, it's quite important to earn Ag than Au to upgrade bots/weapons, and effective way should be reviewed to accelerate the speed to upgrade them ASAP.
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Post by GreenFace on May 3, 2017 12:09:19 GMT -5
What level is your hangar? I have different levels on my weapons depending on use. I was leveling across hangar but now - I want each bot to be more effective & level out the bot or at least all meds or all lights then next bot. I have my brawlers leveled up in weapons first, then mid-range, then flankers/ambush. It goes like this for me: bot/weapon Ancilot 10/10-11/11 Galahad 10/10 Carnage / Fury 8-9/10/11 - both bots L8 and leveling Carnage to 9 now Griffin 9/10 Griffin 9/10 I am planning on finishing mid-range to L9, then will be working on all weapons to L11. I will level either Galahad (mags) or Griffin (Orkans) next. Hope that helps. I am in Expert III and halfway to Expert II. Here's mine some days ago: Thanks for the input, man I upgrade weapons by type, if that makes any sense. First tarans, then mags, then orkans, then the rest. My logic is my galahad and ancilot live longest, and fire the most shots per match, so I get my plasma levelled first, then the rockets. I do complete a level for everything before moving plasma up. Currently at 10/10, upgrading plasma to 11. Hmm... Yup, it does makes sense. I'll put it under consideration. I voted #5 and wanted to put my opinion as below; First, upgrading weapons should be prioritized than bots. Second, once you felt it became difficult to survive through the gameplay within upgrading weapons, you had better to switch to upgrade bots. Third, if you reached bots' level around 9, I would recommend to try to upgrade weapons for the bot primary use. With these above procedures, you will earn given damage effectively within only one bot which with the weapons you prioritized to upgrade than others. It's case by case whether or not your primary bot can survive through the gameplay, but in case your primary bot could survive, the given damage would be produced by the weapons you prioritized to upgrade - stronger than others - then the total given damage through the gameplay would be the best (higher than the case with weaker weapons), which means best Ag gain within your bots. As you would know, it's quite important to earn Ag than Au to upgrade bots/weapons, and effective way should be reviewed to accelerate the speed to upgrade them ASAP. I see... I'll consider this approach also. Thanks man
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Post by elttaes on May 3, 2017 13:34:57 GMT -5
I use a hybrid approach. On bots with built-in shields, such as Galahad and Carnage, and bots that need speed/mobility, I level bots before weapons. (only 1 level at a time, though, so Lvl9 bot, then lvl9 weapons.) On the rest, I level the weapons first (again, just one level ahead, so weapons 9, then bot 9.)
I level across the hangar, first the shielded bots, then the DB griff's weapons (that extra burst damage makes a pretty big difference) then all the other weapons, then all the other bots.
Recently I've been considering just leveling up one or two bots at a time, sort of putting all my eggs in one basket. I've seen some hangars that seemed to do well with that, but I haven't decided on it yet, just something to think about.
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Post by moody on May 3, 2017 17:30:55 GMT -5
While I am trying to make a top tier capable hangar I also like to play the whole game with all the options.
As such, for every major upgrade I do, I will do one or two 'fun' upgrades. So for example I am currently taking a hydra to 7, but after that I will take Taran to 10. Then I may take a gekko to 6 before taking a magnum to 10.
Therefore probably 75% of my upgrade time and silver is used on the bots that I want to take all the way up.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on May 3, 2017 17:32:40 GMT -5
Upgrade what you need and use more often first. Weapons first when applicable. Bot upgrades lose some of their value after Lv 9 as their speed tops out at this level.
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Post by GreenFace on May 3, 2017 17:47:09 GMT -5
Recently I've been considering just leveling up one or two bots at a time, sort of putting all my eggs in one basket. I've seen some hangars that seemed to do well with that, but I haven't decided on it yet, just something to think about. Yeah, I thought about it also. I knew that some people said that in recent MM, we can upgrade however we want and that won't make any difference to our future opponents. But my logic said, that IF I concentrated on upgrading weapons on my most favorite first too high, yes it will help me perform better, but it may bring me up in the league too fast (one bot meet its challenge, but my other bots can't stand it). What do you think? While I am trying to make a top tier capable hangar I also like to play the whole game with all the options. As such, for every major upgrade I do, I will do one or two 'fun' upgrades. So for example I am currently taking a hydra to 7, but after that I will take Taran to 10. Then I may take a gekko to 6 before taking a magnum to 10. Therefore probably 75% of my upgrade time and silver is used on the bots that I want to take all the way up. I see... So generally you tend to upgrade simultaneously, but not necessarily at the same level. Am I get it right?
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Post by moody on May 3, 2017 18:19:09 GMT -5
Recently I've been considering just leveling up one or two bots at a time, sort of putting all my eggs in one basket. I've seen some hangars that seemed to do well with that, but I haven't decided on it yet, just something to think about. Yeah, I thought about it also. I knew that some people said that in recent MM, we can upgrade however we want and that won't make any difference to our future opponents. But my logic said, that IF I concentrated on upgrading weapons on my most favorite first too high, yes it will help me perform better, but it may bring me up in the league too fast (one bot meet its challenge, but my other bots can't stand it). What do you think? While I am trying to make a top tier capable hangar I also like to play the whole game with all the options. As such, for every major upgrade I do, I will do one or two 'fun' upgrades. So for example I am currently taking a hydra to 7, but after that I will take Taran to 10. Then I may take a gekko to 6 before taking a magnum to 10. Therefore probably 75% of my upgrade time and silver is used on the bots that I want to take all the way up. I see... So generally you tend to upgrade simultaneously, but not necessarily at the same level. Am I get it right? I upgrade alternate between my 'top tier' hangar (currently going from 9-10) and my fun to play stuff which could be any level. None of the 'fun stuff' is going to go past level 9. This has marginally slowed down my upgrades. If I had only concentrated on 5 bots specifically to go to the top I might be working on level 11 by now. The top tier equipment includes plasma gareth and galahad, Stuka Griffin, Orkan ancillot, carnage with a variety of weapons. The 'fun' stuff includes punishers, hydra/spiral for a griffin, a natasha with trebs and gekkos, a set of nashhorns and a stalker. Stuff like that.
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Post by snk on May 3, 2017 23:17:55 GMT -5
I normally upgrade simultaneously, but some situation may be different. 1 upgrade finished when I am busy or sleeping 2 if I merch out too often, I will upgrade my bots before weapons, but usually weapons first then bots to the same level.
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Post by inesb on May 4, 2017 4:15:38 GMT -5
I think in the very beginning of the game a new player first wants to try out all weapons and bots to see what fits him best. That´s normal and in this time he´ll probably do some upgrades on things he won´t use forever. But that´s ok since the first upgrades don´t take that much silver and time. So I have a lvl 5 destrier which is of no use for me anymore.
When I found my favorite setup, I focused on upgrading only very few weapons and two bots first. So I had 2 high leveled bots I learned to pilot well in the battlefield, and my other two slots were used for further experiences on different things. When my first two bots and all their weapons reached lvl 10-11, I ran out of silver, upgrades 10+ are really expensive. At this point I had made my decision how the rest of my hangar should look like and I started to upgrade weapons and bots for slot 3&4. When I finally got my 5th slot, I already had 4 high level bots but the 5th bot was almost at basic level. Now it is lvl 9 and has lvl 9 weapons but I´m running out of silver again. I have stopped buying WSP about a week ago. I have bought a Rhino, a Fujin and a Raijin and don´t use them. I run a Carnage and sometimes a Stalker. I have three Tarans, three Magnums, three Hydras, two Tridents and one Trebuchet.
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Post by yunisanpon on May 4, 2017 23:27:06 GMT -5
What level is your hangar? I have different levels on my weapons depending on use. I was leveling across hangar but now - I want each bot to be more effective & level out the bot or at least all meds or all lights then next bot. I have my brawlers leveled up in weapons first, then mid-range, then flankers/ambush. It goes like this for me: bot/weapon Ancilot 10/10-11/11 Galahad 10/10 Carnage / Fury 8-9/10/11 - both bots L8 and leveling Carnage to 9 now Griffin 9/10 Griffin 9/10 I am planning on finishing mid-range to L9, then will be working on all weapons to L11. I will level either Galahad (mags) or Griffin (Orkans) next. Hope that helps. I am in Expert III and halfway to Expert II. Here's mine some days ago: Thanks for the input, man I upgrade weapons by type, if that makes any sense. First tarans, then mags, then orkans, then the rest. My logic is my galahad and ancilot live longest, and fire the most shots per match, so I get my plasma levelled first, then the rockets. I do complete a level for everything before moving plasma up. Currently at 10/10, upgrading plasma to 11. Hmm... Yup, it does makes sense. I'll put it under consideration. I voted #5 and wanted to put my opinion as below; First, upgrading weapons should be prioritized than bots. Second, once you felt it became difficult to survive through the gameplay within upgrading weapons, you had better to switch to upgrade bots. Third, if you reached bots' level around 9, I would recommend to try to upgrade weapons for the bot primary use. With these above procedures, you will earn given damage effectively within only one bot which with the weapons you prioritized to upgrade than others. It's case by case whether or not your primary bot can survive through the gameplay, but in case your primary bot could survive, the given damage would be produced by the weapons you prioritized to upgrade - stronger than others - then the total given damage through the gameplay would be the best (higher than the case with weaker weapons), which means best Ag gain within your bots. As you would know, it's quite important to earn Ag than Au to upgrade bots/weapons, and effective way should be reviewed to accelerate the speed to upgrade them ASAP. I see... I'll consider this approach also. Thanks man
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Post by yunisanpon on May 4, 2017 23:33:16 GMT -5
I strongly believe that League position would depend on the team members' behavour through the gameplay. Even I rushed to try to get center beacon, it'll be finished unsuccessful due to nobody's help, just getting concentrated damages by the enemies, and poor number of the folks will concentrate to get beacons, finally just the poor length of the gauge eventually - loss.
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Post by Dejnov on May 5, 2017 1:13:03 GMT -5
Here's mine some days ago: I would focus on multi-functional knife-fighting weapons first and then core bots. For your hangar the Orkans and Tarans are a priority. They can be used on many bots and in many different setups. If you do upgrade bots, you'll be able to swap those weapons onto the premium bots and be immediately effective. I'd also work on getting 1 griffin to level 9 (max speed) for sure and the rogatka possibly. They are both great bots and you'll use them through your advancement through leagues. I'd also focus on a single thunder too. The carnage, while good at low league levels, tends to drop out and die quickly at higher leagues. He has increased in usage due to the moon map, but I'm not sure yet that will last. I'd also usually save lights for last. They are fast and cheap and sometimes situational. As an example, for the longest time I wasn't sure I wanted to use Aphids in place of Magnums on my Griffin (which had either Tarans or Orkans). I have since settled on a Taran/Aphid Griffin and I believe it's working out very well for me. As such in less than 3 days my Aphids will be with the rest of my core weapons and, even though I lost some time on upgrading Magnums, it's not the end of the world. You also want to prioritize your upgrades against stuff you own and see in legends leagues... that's why my emphasis on tarans and orkans... they're always used. Dejnov.
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Post by GreenFace on May 5, 2017 12:25:52 GMT -5
I would focus on multi-functional knife-fighting weapons first and then core bots. For your hangar the Orkans and Tarans are a priority. They can be used on many bots and in many different setups. If you do upgrade bots, you'll be able to swap those weapons onto the premium bots and be immediately effective. I'd also work on getting 1 griffin to level 9 (max speed) for sure and the rogatka possibly. They are both great bots and you'll use them through your advancement through leagues. I'd also focus on a single thunder too. The carnage, while good at low league levels, tends to drop out and die quickly at higher leagues. He has increased in usage due to the moon map, but I'm not sure yet that will last. I'd also usually save lights for last. They are fast and cheap and sometimes situational. As an example, for the longest time I wasn't sure I wanted to use Aphids in place of Magnums on my Griffin (which had either Tarans or Orkans). I have since settled on a Taran/Aphid Griffin and I believe it's working out very well for me. As such in less than 3 days my Aphids will be with the rest of my core weapons and, even though I lost some time on upgrading Magnums, it's not the end of the world. You also want to prioritize your upgrades against stuff you own and see in legends leagues... that's why my emphasis on tarans and orkans... they're always used. Dejnov. I can see your point. Thanks for the input, man
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