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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 5:21:51 GMT -5
So, ah, someone said the RDB Rhino setup was "shooting yourself in the foot", now this isn't a direct roast because I don't wanna start something, but I will politely leave this up to the public.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 30, 2016 5:23:23 GMT -5
Hellfire and DB need to be added to the poll.
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Post by Prowler on Nov 30, 2016 5:35:13 GMT -5
What is the hellfire set up ?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 30, 2016 5:35:39 GMT -5
What is the hellfire set up ? orkan/mag.
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Post by Prowler on Nov 30, 2016 5:52:07 GMT -5
What is the hellfire set up ? orkan/mag. Odd name. Hellfire are missiles so I had expected it to be something else.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 30, 2016 5:54:20 GMT -5
Odd name. Hellfire are missiles so I had expected it to be something else. eh, it's the name that has been taken on by the community, much like the 'Russian death button'
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 5:56:03 GMT -5
What's ~just~ DB?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 30, 2016 5:58:54 GMT -5
DB = Orkans/pinatas RDB = CRV/Tulumbas I know many believe the RDB to be "rocket death button", but really it doesn't make sense to have two different setups on the Same bot with the same acronym.
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Post by Noreceipts400 on Nov 30, 2016 5:59:44 GMT -5
Death button- orkans and pinatas
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Post by Vindictive999 on Nov 30, 2016 8:05:58 GMT -5
Yeah hellfire needs to be added also aphid/taran
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 8:40:10 GMT -5
PDB, RDB, "unconventional". Eh...?
OP, next time take at least the frackin 2 minutes to read through the wiki about setups, then implement them in your poll. It will make you look less like an 11 year old impatient child...
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Post by Joker on Nov 30, 2016 10:35:05 GMT -5
Have to select unconventional because there's no option for hellfire rhino.
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Post by josette2 on Nov 30, 2016 11:31:44 GMT -5
PDB, RDB, "unconventional". Eh...? OP, next time take at least the frackin 2 minutes to read through the wiki about setups, then implement them in your poll. It will make you look less like an 11 year old impatient child... Uhhh every setup deviated from PDB and DB rhino I'd suggest you also look at Adrian chongs rhino guide. PDB and DB are standard builds while if you deviate from those it becomes unconventional I don't think OP is off with his choices. Also mind you nobody used aphids on rhinos till it got buffed
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Post by petevb on Nov 30, 2016 14:04:04 GMT -5
I'm unclear if the OP knew the difference between the Russian Death Button (RDB, Tulu and Pins) and American Death Button (DB, Orks and Pinatas) when they set up the poll?
In Top tier the RBD Rhino is rarely seen because it comes up short against its mid-range support rivals. The Trident Fury out-ranges it and does more damage, the RDB Griffin can avoid at least one incoming volley with its jump, while the Trident Carnage both has range and will block one volley with its shield. The Rhino can neither block nor dodge, so all of its common alternatives typically get in an extra lick and will kill it head to head. Yes it has speed and a shield, but speed is less critical in the mid-range role, while there are rarely enough long-range snipers or Zeus in Top for the shield to change the outcome. This leaves the RDB Rhino with one main role on the battlefield: taking out plasma Galahad. Which it's admittedly good at, but not enough so to justify it over the other options.
As a result the RDB Rhino is in my opinion one of the least effective Rhino setups. Hellfire, DB, Aphids and especially Plasma are all significantly superior. Thus the poll is flawed. IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 19:05:29 GMT -5
PDB, RDB, "unconventional". Eh...? OP, next time take at least the frackin 2 minutes to read through the wiki about setups, then implement them in your poll. It will make you look less like an 11 year old impatient child... Uhhh every setup deviated from PDB and DB rhino I'd suggest you also look at Adrian chongs rhino guide. PDB and DB are standard builds while if you deviate from those it becomes unconventional I don't think OP is off with his choices. Also mind you nobody used aphids on rhinos till it got buffed That's exactly what I was going off; as you said PDB and DB are the two main and most common rhino setups, which is why they're the IV in my poll.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 30, 2016 19:32:20 GMT -5
I think you misunderstood: He was mentioning "LONG RELOAD", not "LONGER RANGE" Try adding Mags to it instead of pinatas. You're shooting yourself in the foot by going all rockets due to the long reloads I will poll this up in an attempt to see how informed I am before stating my opinion on your remark. Source: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/11242/threadAbout this poll, you only have 2 "informed" options, which is PDB and RDB, of course most will favor PDB, as RDB obviously suits the Griffin much better.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 30, 2016 19:36:56 GMT -5
PDB, RDB, "unconventional". Eh...? OP, next time take at least the frackin 2 minutes to read through the wiki about setups, then implement them in your poll. It will make you look less like an 11 year old impatient child... Uhhh every setup deviated from PDB and DB rhino I'd suggest you also look at Adrian chongs rhino guide. PDB and DB are standard builds while if you deviate from those it becomes unconventional I don't think OP is off with his choices. Also mind you nobody used aphids on rhinos till it got buffed As you may or may not noticed, the OP said PDB or "RDB", not "DB". I would say RDB is even more "unconventional" then setups other than PDB, DB or Hellfire.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 30, 2016 19:39:25 GMT -5
Uhhh every setup deviated from PDB and DB rhino I'd suggest you also look at Adrian chongs rhino guide. PDB and DB are standard builds while if you deviate from those it becomes unconventional I don't think OP is off with his choices. Also mind you nobody used aphids on rhinos till it got buffed That's exactly what I was going off; as you said PDB and DB are the two main and most common rhino setups, which is why they're the IV in my poll. Er, look again, options in your poll is only "PDB" and "RDB", I suggest you get your shortforms correct.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 30, 2016 19:43:40 GMT -5
But to give the OP the benefit of the doubt, I think he meant DB (Orkan/Pinatas) instead of RDB (Tulu/Pins).
And personally I prefer my DB Rhino to the Plasma, I feel I can pilot it better, as when I am in a Rhino, I would want to take down my opponent when my shield is down ASAP.
I won't vote until the poll is fixed, but personally I favor the DB Rhino over the Plasma Rhino.
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Post by B30RLL on Nov 30, 2016 20:29:07 GMT -5
Agree with Zhøu™. Especially for beginner rhino pilots think DB is easiest to get used to.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 30, 2016 20:30:45 GMT -5
Agree with Zhøu™. Especially for beginner rhino pilots think DB is easiest to get used to. Tbh I find Plasma Rhino harder to master, not sure if it's only me.
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Post by jckidd on Nov 30, 2016 20:33:59 GMT -5
PDB, RDB, "unconventional". Eh...? OP, next time take at least the frackin 2 minutes to read through the wiki about setups, then implement them in your poll. It will make you look less like an 11 year old impatient child... this is why saltesers always does the voting polls lol
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Nov 30, 2016 20:44:43 GMT -5
It's not just you. I was waffling between using a DB loadout or a plasma loadout between a Rhino and a Griffin. Based mostly on my play style being an aggressive hit-and-runner & knife-fighter, the DB went to the Griffin and the plasmas went the the Rhino. DB Burst fire damage from either was usually a kill or cripple shot, but the Griffin's jump has nice synergy with the rocket pod reload times. The Rhino, on the other hand, is a true tank-style, and having a sustainable RoF makes for better survivability, hence Magnums for constant firing and Taran for situational high damage output. Which requires thinking, thus a lot of peeps won't bother trying to learn.
There's not as much strategy involved with a DB Rhino. You shoot your load and wait to get melted... IMO of course.
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Nov 30, 2016 20:47:46 GMT -5
the name of Aphid-Orkans Rhino i use as second choice?
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Post by sweetpickle on Nov 30, 2016 20:49:58 GMT -5
So... I don't even have a rhino. I do manage to kill them ok when I find them in trash gold.
This poll seems pretty broken already so I will ask my stupid question. How do I vote? I'm on Tapatalk and don't see a vote option.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 30, 2016 21:15:21 GMT -5
So... I don't even have a rhino. I do manage to kill them ok when I find them in trash gold. This poll seems pretty broken already so I will ask my stupid question. How do I vote? I'm on Tapatalk and don't see a vote option. Sadly Tapatalk doesn't have the feature, you have to load it in web view to view and vote. Anyways I have recently switched my DB Rhino to a DB Griff, seeing my average damage raising pretty significantly. Trying out Aphids Orkan Griff next.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 30, 2016 21:25:09 GMT -5
PDB Rhino does have a steeper learning curve, as you need to pick and choose your engagements and where to engage, when to let your shield down and when to keep it up. With the DB setup you can pretty much take on anything as soon as it cones into range (bar those darned plasma Galahads, just keep walking to where you need to go against them, as it will take them an age to break through your shield)
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Post by tttt on Nov 30, 2016 21:41:22 GMT -5
Odd name. Hellfire are missiles so I had expected it to be something else. Orkan/mags isn't hellfire, it's a lemonhead setup. All that yellow ...
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Post by BLYTHE on Nov 30, 2016 21:44:28 GMT -5
should include the following choices:
mags/tarans mags/orkans crv pins/tulumbas orkans/pinatas tarans/pinatas aphid/tarans aphid/orkans
unconventional (tarans/ecu, etc.)
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Post by josette2 on Nov 30, 2016 22:15:32 GMT -5
This will explain it all
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