seeyolater
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Post by seeyolater on Nov 4, 2023 11:53:33 GMT -5
The day has come. Five weapon slots. HMG titan weapons. It's not looking good...
May be the worst meta yet to come, as harpy/siren HMGs were one of the least skilled metas ever. Sad to say it's right on brand with Pix.
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Post by wrmechanoid01 on Nov 4, 2023 13:56:35 GMT -5
It sounds to me like pix is going in the direction of giving more and more firepower to bots to change the meta into something truly horrific
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 4, 2023 16:11:36 GMT -5
Is this actually genuine?
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 4, 2023 16:14:10 GMT -5
Oh 「dookie」. He really wasn't kidding. HMG titan weapons? 「fluffernutter」s sake...
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Post by munkeeee on Nov 4, 2023 16:18:36 GMT -5
Is this actually genuine? Yea, sadly it is. Some YT folk already have vids up barely 12 hrs old. edit*** finally watched a vid. Latest and greatest op titan. HMGs 3 alphas 2 betas, flies like Murometz. just another headache ontop of the current headaches. Soon this game will become a cancer. you heard it here first. I really wonder what the original designers think of this game in the current state.
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Post by krebby on Nov 4, 2023 16:46:39 GMT -5
Ugh. Titan bendies and a new Titan with 5 weapon slots.
The Bendy Bullet meta drove me away from the game for more than a year. I was only able to tolerate the game when those weapons were nerfed into the ground. Looks like I'll be going back into hibernation once the new Bendy weapons drop.
Also, for anyone who spent money getting a Newton, I feel bad for you. Pixonic is massively accelerating the introduce-OP-thing-then-nerf-it cycle. Hang on to your wallets. The company has the shamelessness of a Kardashian and the ethics of a circus carny.
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Post by Poopface on Nov 4, 2023 18:12:48 GMT -5
Oh my. That’s most unfortunate.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 4, 2023 18:29:51 GMT -5
In typical Pixonic fashion, it gains 250k max health every time you enable the flying ability with a cooldown of 5 seconds after the flight ends. just spam the ability at every opportunity to gain 250k and add repair amps/durability extender etc and we will no doubt see a 10mill+ health titan.
The only saving grace is the extra 2 alpha weapons "only" come out during the flight ability. They will have to nerf the Tonans/Vulgar weapons though as they will melt through this titan fairly quickly as it has no other magic shields when in the air and I think those weapons will be chosen over the bendy bullet ones.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 4, 2023 18:31:17 GMT -5
Meh, the players that get this setup are likely the same ones that currently give me the old Newtonian Wedgie.
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seeyolater
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Posts: 29
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Post by seeyolater on Nov 4, 2023 20:05:12 GMT -5
Oh 「dookie」. He really wasn't kidding. HMG titan weapons? 「fluffernutter」s sake... Exactly what I was thinking. Of all weapons that could be gutted I hope these get the worst of it. HMGs are cancer.
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Post by gus169 on Nov 4, 2023 20:45:26 GMT -5
colour me unsurprised. everybody knows the pattern by now. Titan HMG was always going to happen, and weapon-slot-creep is apparently a thing now. I'll be dropping them with a Kid. I'm slightly more miffed that they chose the Fen for the ultimate. It doesn't need a revival. It stands up just fine, still.
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Post by krebby on Nov 4, 2023 22:46:12 GMT -5
colour me unsurprised. everybody knows the pattern by now. Titan HMG was always going to happen, and weapon-slot-creep is apparently a thing now. I'll be dropping them with a Kid. I'm slightly more miffed that they chose the Fen for the ultimate. It doesn't need a revival. It stands up just fine, still. The Fenrir isn't an ideal choice. But I'm mostly surprised at how anemic this "ultimate" version is compared to the current Fenrir. I thought Pix did a nice job with the ultimate fujin—extra firepower and turbocharge the shield mode. I was hoping other ultimates would follow that example. But the "ultimate" Fenrir just has 10% extra durability. That's basically a slightly more special skin. That's pretty meh. I would have liked to see something like this: - Trading the two Medium slots for Heavy ones;
- Trading the Heavy slot for a Medium one; and
- Give the shielded mode resistance (albeit not as strong as assault mode).
That would make the Fenrir more deadly, and actually give the shield some real utility.
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Post by gus169 on Nov 5, 2023 6:47:23 GMT -5
colour me unsurprised. everybody knows the pattern by now. Titan HMG was always going to happen, and weapon-slot-creep is apparently a thing now. I'll be dropping them with a Kid. I'm slightly more miffed that they chose the Fen for the ultimate. It doesn't need a revival. It stands up just fine, still. The Fenrir isn't an ideal choice. But I'm mostly surprised at how anemic this "ultimate" version is compared to the current Fenrir. I thought Pix did a nice job with the ultimate fujin—extra firepower and turbocharge the shield mode. I was hoping other ultimates would follow that example. But the "ultimate" Fenrir just has 10% extra durability. That's basically a slightly more special skin. That's pretty meh. I would have liked to see something like this: - Trading the two Medium slots for Heavy ones;
- Trading the Heavy slot for a Medium one; and
- Give the shielded mode resistance (albeit not as strong as assault mode).
That would make the Fenrir more deadly, and actually give the shield some real utility.
Seriously? Just a 10% hp boost? Ultimate my arse! 3 heavies, lol. problem there is heavies only have 'top' mounts. I'd keep the weapons the same and give it that resistance you said. better yet, make an Ultimate Strider with 6 dashes and a jump
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 5, 2023 7:39:15 GMT -5
What irks me is that out of all the weapons they could have chosen to make into titan weapons, they had to go with HMGs, knowing they are one of the most hated weapons.
「whiskey tango foxtrot」 Pix?
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Post by linearblade on Nov 5, 2023 8:47:04 GMT -5
It does not cloak, it does not lock u. It does not have a slow」 god shield . It is gonna die horribly fast., or the goat / nooblet Meta is rapidly coming to an end
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Post by linearblade on Nov 5, 2023 8:49:45 GMT -5
Seriously, how does this even survive a crisis, let alone more dangerous things
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Post by krebby on Nov 5, 2023 10:01:54 GMT -5
Seriously, how does this even survive a crisis, let alone more dangerous things The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 5, 2023 10:25:25 GMT -5
Seriously, how does this even survive a crisis, let alone more dangerous things The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800. I’ll be pretty satisfied when they nerf hammer those trash bots and trash players
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Post by krebby on Nov 5, 2023 11:14:10 GMT -5
The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800. I’ll be pretty satisfied when they nerf hammer those trash bots and trash players Me too, I just know that different from bad isn't necessarily better. It can always get worse. I stopped playing for a long time because: (1) Bendies made intelligent use of cover an obsolete skill; and (2) Drones gave everything purple shields all the time. The drone rework made the game tolerable again because I could actually shoot things. And I was also happy to see that Bendies are now pretty meh. The Ocho and Newton are absurd of course, but this isn't the worst meta I've ever experienced.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 5, 2023 12:40:41 GMT -5
I’ll be pretty satisfied when they nerf hammer those trash bots and trash players Me too, I just know that different from bad isn't necessarily better. It can always get worse. I stopped playing for a long time because: (1) Bendies made intelligent use of cover an obsolete skill; and (2) Drones gave everything purple shields all the time. The drone rework made the game tolerable again because I could actually shoot things. And I was also happy to see that Bendies are now pretty meh. The Ocho and Newton are absurd of course, but this isn't the worst meta I've ever experienced. Interesting. I never really was bothered by the bendies. I also (obviously) stopped for a long time as well. I would say ares or spectres was by far the worst. This other stuff hasn’t concerned me. Although anglers were also pretty dumb too
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Post by Wolfblood7 on Nov 5, 2023 14:12:38 GMT -5
Me too, I just know that different from bad isn't necessarily better. It can always get worse. I stopped playing for a long time because: (1) Bendies made intelligent use of cover an obsolete skill; and (2) Drones gave everything purple shields all the time. The drone rework made the game tolerable again because I could actually shoot things. And I was also happy to see that Bendies are now pretty meh. The Ocho and Newton are absurd of course, but this isn't the worst meta I've ever experienced. Interesting. I never really was bothered by the bendies. I also (obviously) stopped for a long time as well. I would say ares or spectres was by far the worst. This other stuff hasn’t concerned me. Although anglers were also pretty dumb too Same. Bendies weren't that bad to me. The Seraph meta was worse IMO, and I have a feeling these new weapons will top that.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Nov 6, 2023 2:50:30 GMT -5
I dont think any of you even realize how bad this is Hmgs rattled the game like nothing ive ever seen before or even after They were accessible and deadly Everyone had at least one because of how easily they dropped and they made the game a nightmare for every league Ive never naturally seen an ocho If these are anything like the originals it might be the worst thing to ever be made We're 「fluffernutter」ed
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Post by 079 on Nov 6, 2023 15:59:07 GMT -5
Seriously, how does this even survive a crisis, let alone more dangerous things The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800. I bet this update is when they are gonna play catchup and probably gut the current meta (Newton, Folgur/Tonans, Reaper, and Ochotoki) and reset the status quo for these new bots and titans. Pixonic as of late has this habit of letting a bunch of OP hear pile up with only lip service nerfs, and then wiping the slate clean when they want a new era of the meta to begin. We had an era of invincible tanks, now it is time for an era of glass cannons. You gotta switch out the bot archetype every now and then to keep things interesting for the spenders!
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 7, 2023 10:11:48 GMT -5
It sounds to me like pix is going in the direction of giving more and more firepower to bots to change the meta into something truly horrific
They just have to keep changing the meta otherwise they won't make millions of dollars.
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 7, 2023 10:14:13 GMT -5
I dont think any of you even realize how bad this is Hmgs rattled the game like nothing ive ever seen before or even after They were accessible and deadly Everyone had at least one because of how easily they dropped and they made the game a nightmare for every league Ive never naturally seen an ocho If these are anything like the originals it might be the worst thing to ever be made We're 「fluffernutter」ed
Undoubtedly Pix has the numbers on how well they "sold" various things and that is guiding them this time.
Profit, profit, profit.
Gaming experience? Who cares, money is more important.
I'll do what I did then - every time I die from HMG, just quit there and then in protest.
IMHO, quit'ing mid-game is the only effective form of protest at Putonic's actions.
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 7, 2023 10:19:53 GMT -5
Seriously, how does this even survive a crisis, let alone more dangerous things The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800.
If thte titan bendies go further than 500m, i might just stop playing altogether, or maybe i'll just leave the high ranked players idle and create new low level ones that I "kill" when they get high enough to see this 「dookie」 and just keep playing the lower levels.
i don't need 1001 different fancy things to enjoy the game.
the game is still good at lower levels, it is just once titans get involved and you're in gold or above, it really starts going to pot.
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seeyolater
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Posts: 29
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Post by seeyolater on Nov 7, 2023 10:46:56 GMT -5
The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800. I bet this update is when they are gonna play catchup and probably gut the current meta (Newton, Folgur/Tonans, Reaper, and Ochotoki) and reset the status quo for these new bots and titans. Pixonic as of late has this habit of letting a bunch of OP hear pile up with only lip service nerfs, and then wiping the slate clean when they want a new era of the meta to begin. We had an era of invincible tanks, now it is time for an era of glass cannons. You gotta switch out the bot archetype every now and then to keep things interesting for the spenders! I’ve never thought about it that way, but it makes sense. In all honesty I’d rather see glass cannons as the meta because usually there is a way to kill them. With the Ocho I felt like I was slamming my head against a brick wall. At least I can wound things like Dagon and Ophion with shieldbreaker. Or feel like I am…
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Post by krebby on Nov 7, 2023 11:05:13 GMT -5
Interesting. I never really was bothered by the bendies. I also (obviously) stopped for a long time as well. I would say ares or spectres was by far the worst. This other stuff hasn’t concerned me. Although anglers were also pretty dumb too Same. Bendies weren't that bad to me. The Seraph meta was worse IMO, and I have a feeling these new weapons will top that. Yeah, I think the Spectre/Shocktrain meta was the worst one I experienced. It seemed like every match, including Beacon Rush matches (not just TDM), dissolved into static slogs. No one could move from cover because they'd get instantly vaporized by Shocktrains. No one could group up because then everyone would take the secondary damage and then get vaporized. It was the War Robots version of WW1 trench warfare—insanely brutal and fundamentally boring. The Ares meta was less balanced too—if one team had a critical mass of Ares bots that could coordinate into an Ares train (which only took 3, and became trivially easy with 4+), the other team was pretty screwed. Metas generally suck when you can predict the outcome with near certainty simply by looking at the first bots your teammates drop. The Ares was the worst offender by that standard. I wasn't around during the Seraph meta, so I can't speak to it. I can imagine it shared characteristics of both the Ares and Shocktrain ones. I don't disagree with either of you that there have been worse metas than the Bendie Bullet one. I was probably just sick enough of the game that it didn't take much to drive me away. The old drone system made Champion League miserable. I hated how drones made favorable/unfavorable-matchup awareness obsolete. Add then Bendies made use-of-cover skill obsolete. I just couldn't take it anymore.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 7, 2023 11:39:23 GMT -5
The Eiffel has a 250k extra durability that is added whenever it uses its ability. That's not enough in this meta to keep it safe in a fight. Good point! That means: (a) those (reapers; Titan Zeus weapons) will be nerfed into the ground soon; (b) the Eiffel is going to get some kind of additional defensive measure on the live server; and possibly (c) the Titan bendies are going to get their range extended to something like 800.
If thte titan bendies go further than 500m, i might just stop playing altogether, or maybe i'll just leave the high ranked players idle and create new low level ones that I "kill" when they get high enough to see this 「dookie」 and just keep playing the lower levels.
i don't need 1001 different fancy things to enjoy the game.
the game is still good at lower levels, it is just once titans get involved and you're in gold or above, it really starts going to pot.
Actually that’s what I do any time they do this anyway. I just take a vacation until they pull head from arse
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