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Post by Deadalready on Apr 13, 2017 2:27:52 GMT -5
So it's kinda perplexed me how silver is earnt for damage, it's not quite half, it's modified by a few conditions and math ain't mah strong point.
What's the formula for earning silver?
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Post by wildboar on Apr 13, 2017 2:29:35 GMT -5
Shoot stuff - hope this helps
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 2:32:25 GMT -5
Pix would have to let you look in the Magical Mystery Box for the answer to that. Then you might be moving to Siberia if they did. ?
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Post by War Child on Apr 13, 2017 2:45:42 GMT -5
I believe it's...
Kills and beacons(5%)+damage done(?-75%)+rank in the scoreboard(?-20%)=100% + 50% if you won
P.s. Kills and beacons does have specific amounts of silver but I forgot how much.
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Post by BLYTHE on Apr 13, 2017 2:46:51 GMT -5
They've not published the exact formula but these are the factors: damage dealt, beacons capped, win or lose, -repair cost, premium or non premium account.
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Post by Deadalready on Apr 14, 2017 10:04:47 GMT -5
You know I'm kinda amazed that with all the creative geniuses we have in WarRobots (the ones who work out how to game the system, calculated odds, mapped out teams and all sorts of crazy things). No one has reversed engineered exactly how money is awarded  |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 14, 2017 10:22:16 GMT -5
I think it is 5k per beacon capped, 5k per beacon liberated, damage dealt (magical formula), critical hits dealt (based on enemy equipment level), kills bonus (10k I think/ kill) - repair cost. I have tested the beacons before and those are the only things I can vouch for.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Apr 14, 2017 10:42:08 GMT -5
I was researching this the other day and what greyghost said is spot on. There was also discussion that relative robot and weapon levels are a factor and the possibility that knocking off weapons has a bonus.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 14, 2017 10:50:03 GMT -5
I think it is 5k per beacon capped, 5k per beacon liberated, damage dealt (magical formula), critical hits dealt (based on enemy equipment level), kills bonus (10k I think/ kill) - repair cost. I have tested the beacons before and those are the only things I can vouch for. Yes... critical hits are probably the x factor we don't usually have calculated in... I saw in the old videos that the results page used to list how much you made according to what you did... I imagine that formula is still the same. |
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Post by narwill on Apr 14, 2017 11:58:06 GMT -5
Hi this is my first post EVER!!!!!!! Just joined the wiki
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Post by mannisch on Apr 14, 2017 13:39:53 GMT -5
Make dmg, keep repair small.  |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Apr 14, 2017 14:15:20 GMT -5
Reviewing the posts above, some of the formulas have a BIG X FACTOR!
I will start looking at the summary screens. I think it would be easy enough looking for trends in Ag payout relative to:
Overall damage - base line at ave damag
Review variance in:
# kills
# beacons
Look at net and track damage taken.
Might give an indication the impact of kills & beacons to Ag payouts.
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Post by tekkamanblade on Apr 15, 2017 0:15:11 GMT -5
You know I'm kinda amazed that with all the creative geniuses we have in WarRobots (the ones who work out how to game the system, calculated odds, mapped out teams and all sorts of crazy things). No one has reversed engineered exactly how money is awarded Could you post some sample matches with details, people can just run a regression model with the numbers, shouldn't be too hard. Anyone up for that? |
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Post by peterw35 on Apr 15, 2017 19:52:12 GMT -5
Maybe that's why there's so many camper out there just shooting and not leaving their camping bots and won't continue fighting after the sniping bot is down.
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Post by morel22 on Apr 15, 2017 20:55:02 GMT -5
The math shouldn't be hard to calculate at all. Just needs someone with extra free time and some will to note down at least 10 match outcomes and solve the system of equations...  |
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Apr 15, 2017 21:52:46 GMT -5
From what I understand it's more complicated than just total damage, kills, beacons. The level of your weapon used to inflict damage and the level of the bot it hits is a possible factor so you need to pin down every hit and levels to untangle the equation.
I'm not familiar with regression analysis but if it accounts for unknown variables then it might give a good estimation.
I was thinking of doing experiments like letting 1 bot be killed by one specific red then wait till the results to see the levels of the red and the repair cost. But doing that now risks being put in the leaver queue. Maybe through several single 1 on 1 matchups, fighting back or not, with various weapons and bots of various levels will reveal the equation.
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Post by War Child on Apr 15, 2017 22:20:12 GMT -5
The more I upgrade my bots,the more the repair bill gets stingy.
Keep your bots low and your damage high.Or use a Plareth(plasma+gareth)
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Post by SlowReflexes on Apr 15, 2017 22:20:35 GMT -5
Nobody knows, and it has been known to silently change.
Seriously, a few months back a bunch of us on the old forum made a real effort to figure it out and we got nothing.
Not kidding about the total failure - near as we could tell, you actually lose silver per kill. Which cannot be right.
So we shrugged and gave up.
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Post by War Child on Apr 15, 2017 22:23:36 GMT -5
Nobody knows, and it has been known to silently change. Seriously, a few months back a bunch of us on the old forum made a real effort to figure it out and we got nothing. Not kidding about the total failure - near as we could tell, you actually lose silver per kill. Which cannot be right. So we shrugged and gave up. Maybe it's to pay for the red pilots destroyed bot and medical bills XD |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Apr 15, 2017 22:24:35 GMT -5
From what I understand it's more complicated than just total damage, kills, beacons. The level of your weapon used to inflict damage and the level of the bot it hits is a possible factor so you need to pin down every hit and levels to untangle the equation. I'm not familiar with regression analysis but if it accounts for unknown variables then it might give a good estimation. I was thinking of doing experiments like letting 1 bot be killed by one specific red then wait till the results to see the levels of the red and the repair cost. But doing that now risks being put in the leaver queue. Maybe through several single 1 on 1 matchups, fighting back or not, with various weapons and bots of various levels will reveal the equation. Yes. Damage matters, but appears to be influenced by some combination of the level/size of your weapon and bot vs the level/size of the target bot. Repair cost is much easier to isolate (if you like) but it certainly did not appear that the silver reward someone gets for damaging you has any relation to what you pay to fix it. |
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