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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2023 1:07:26 GMT -5
Ideally would use Reapers, but since I have enough shards for 1/4th of one, looking at other options.
Thinking prismas, with the nerf, isn’t a viable choice, given Crisis glass cannon status.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 29, 2023 1:47:46 GMT -5
Heres the thing You need to be as far from anything as physically possible Even allies cuz it might attract attention Bumblebutts are too slow and close range to use safely Spinny pew pew lasers are better but still dangerous because it requires lasting shooting Geese guns are the best option because time to charge in safety and its one and done Personally i recommend zenits because theyre cheap and occasionally deadly though sustained fire do be bad tho Launch the hell birds into your foes like theres no tomorrow or else there just might not be ;]
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Post by gus169 on Jun 29, 2023 3:15:57 GMT -5
chuckles. bumblebutts
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Post by TerrorStorm on Jun 29, 2023 4:41:30 GMT -5
My experience with Crisis, only fighting against them, is they are made for the Reaper Weapon. It packs a HUGE punch, has a good clip, massive range and reloads pretty quick. Paired with Crisis stealth it is a lethal combination. You have to be heavily armored, very fast or stealthy to sneak up on one with those weapons. Even at VERY close range a Reaper will destroy you.
Conversely, other less effective weapons reveal the huge flow for Crisis. It is made of glass. Once you get close they are one of the easiest bots around to kill. Sonic Loki, Nut, Lynx will be on you quick and will be devastating.
Gauss, if you get hit by one (~9,000 damage) will hurt. However, it is one shot then an 8 second reload... long time. A miss can be painful. Small map you will killed right away.
Hornet's biggest flaw is a long 12 second reload AND only 600M range. One of the fast bots will be all over you in 12 seconds.
Reaper has the best of both. 6 shot clip, ~2,700 damage (L1), 7 second reload AND 1,100 range. AND... they go through most shields!
Good thing about Gauss and Hornet is they are safe from NERFs. In fact I believe Gauss just got a BUFF. Lasers, I feel are pretty balanced, but your never know with PIX and new gear.
For me I would only run Crisis with Reaper. If one fell in my lap with all the weapons I'd give it a run but other than that I'd let it sit in the hanger until the dust settles with PIX's cycle of NERF and BUFF. Too many other good bot/ weapons combination that are more balanced.
I played a Crisis/ Reaper today. Maxed out MK2.12.. weapons and bot. Those guns are insane. One shotted my Eldrich Ares and shot my Fafnir out of the sky. Sort of funny. Unfortunately for him my sneaky Scorpion caught up with Mr. Crisis at closer range. Sonics took him out in one clip. REALLY soft.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 29, 2023 11:15:31 GMT -5
I had nicknamed the other two so i decided to do it too Couldve been worse for being on the spot
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 29, 2023 11:23:37 GMT -5
Oh and also terror has a point that ill add to Crisis is designed to ambush Everything involved in Crisis gives extra damage on stealth drop or buffs its and deactivates the stealth itself By the way Never Ever Put thunders on crisis Trust me it does less damage than putting four anciles on the damn thing would
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Post by Poopface on Jun 29, 2023 11:30:23 GMT -5
Alright, if you're looking to be at range while minimizing targets that can hit you (either in distance or available time) and Reaper isn't an option, seems to me you have two options. 1. Gauss -- 800m one shot then work to hide. 31.5k damage at MK3. Downside is that the Korean lasers will make lunchmeat out of you. 340M silver to get to 2/12
2. Trebuchet -- Not sexy and the reload is lengthy, but the damage is just short of the Gauss (30.2k at MK3) and range is equal to that of Reaper. The shot takes less time vs Reaper getting you back to stealth sooner. 127.4M silver to get to 2/12
Personally, I'd level up 4 Trebs and not look back.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 29, 2023 11:59:34 GMT -5
Theres also nashorn Dont fight me forumites because i will die on this hill
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Post by Poopface on Jun 29, 2023 12:06:31 GMT -5
Theres also nashorn Dont fight me forumites because i will die on this hill You picked the wrong hill. The correct hill to die on is that of the KwK 448mm
Edit: Doesn't seem like much of an alternative. The burst damage is less than half that of Treb or Gauss.
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Post by 079 on Jun 29, 2023 12:19:42 GMT -5
I agree with the above. Gauss fits best with the hide-and-seek style of Crisis, as laser weapons require you to deactivate stealth for an extended amount of time. Reapers are of course best, but Gauss is not half bad since its firing profile somewhat resembles Reaper.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 29, 2023 20:03:34 GMT -5
Theres also nashorn Dont fight me forumites because i will die on this hill You picked the wrong hill. The correct hill to die on is that of the KwK 448mm
Edit: Doesn't seem like much of an alternative. The burst damage is less than half that of Treb or Gauss.
Easier to get and longer range than gauss Treb sux Expensive and way high maintenance
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Post by TerrorStorm on Jun 29, 2023 21:15:16 GMT -5
Another point on Gauss... and I had the same issue with Webber. It has huge range and hits very hard. However, shooting at range requires accuracy and hitting a tiny bot from across the map is not easy. Under the right circumstances you can one-shot that turkey to dust and feathers. If you miss that "one shot" OR hit a shield (there are lots of them) you are waiting 8 seconds to reload for another single shot. Running Webber for a while I just felt like 2/3 of my shots were either hitting a shield or a miss.
Meanwhile Prismas, Reaper and Lasers are all over you. Add to this all the speedy, sneaky and transporting bots are coming your way.
Again, I think there are MANY mid-range bots/ weapons that are faster, more armored and flexible to run rather than Crisis which I see as a specialist.
Pulsar is a really good mix of range, capacity and power. Relatively cheap to upgrade and can carry you very far in the game. Locking down an enemy at 600M can really help your tankier team remember. Ares, Erebus and Typhon give you 4 weapons slots and decent speed and durability. Not as sexy as Crisis but very solid. I'd even throw in Fafnir with the right set up and skills.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2023 22:28:06 GMT -5
Another point on Gauss... and I had the same issue with Webber. It has huge range and hits very hard. However, shooting at range requires accuracy and hitting a tiny bot from across the map is not easy. Under the right circumstances you can one-shot that turkey to dust and feathers. If you miss that "one shot" OR hit a shield (there are lots of them) you are waiting 8 seconds to reload for another single shot. Running Webber for a while I just felt like 2/3 of my shots were either hitting a shield or a miss. Meanwhile Prismas, Reaper and Lasers are all over you. Add to this all the speedy, sneaky and transporting bots are coming your way. Again, I think there are MANY mid-range bots/ weapons that are faster, more armored and flexible to run rather than Crisis which I see as a specialist. Pulsar is a really good mix of range, capacity and power. Relatively cheap to upgrade and can carry you very far in the game. Locking down an enemy at 600M can really help your tankier team remember. Ares, Erebus and Typhon give you 4 weapons slots and decent speed and durability. Not as sexy as Crisis but very solid. I'd even throw in Fafnir with the right set up and skills. Every time I’ve done the Fafnir, it’s like flying a wet paper bag. If you are running an Erebus, what are you putting on it?
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Post by TerrorStorm on Jun 29, 2023 22:47:21 GMT -5
Another point on Gauss... and I had the same issue with Webber. It has huge range and hits very hard. However, shooting at range requires accuracy and hitting a tiny bot from across the map is not easy. Under the right circumstances you can one-shot that turkey to dust and feathers. If you miss that "one shot" OR hit a shield (there are lots of them) you are waiting 8 seconds to reload for another single shot. Running Webber for a while I just felt like 2/3 of my shots were either hitting a shield or a miss. Meanwhile Prismas, Reaper and Lasers are all over you. Add to this all the speedy, sneaky and transporting bots are coming your way. Again, I think there are MANY mid-range bots/ weapons that are faster, more armored and flexible to run rather than Crisis which I see as a specialist. Pulsar is a really good mix of range, capacity and power. Relatively cheap to upgrade and can carry you very far in the game. Locking down an enemy at 600M can really help your tankier team remember. Ares, Erebus and Typhon give you 4 weapons slots and decent speed and durability. Not as sexy as Crisis but very solid. I'd even throw in Fafnir with the right set up and skills. Every time I’ve done the Fafnir, it’s like flying a wet paper bag. If you are running an Erebus, what are you putting on it? You are right about Fafnir. If it is not played carefully it goes down quick. I run a full set of Pulsars on it. I generally try to sit back and fire at reds from full range. Charge up Nuke Amp and other modules. I run L6 Nuke, Repair and Immune. It slowly gains power, speed and durability. Where it gets really good is when you take off and find some idiot to shoot at your shields... then it becomes VERY powerful... titan killing powerful under the right circumstances. EVERY time a Mars yeets it turret in my direction I take off and absorb those hits, land, recharge and repeat. You just have to really carefully manage flight and ground fighting. It is for sure NOT the invincible flying terror it was pre-nerf. I find it a challenging but rewarding bot to run. Bear in mind it's a maxed Corrupted Fafnir with a full set of Sinister Pulsars, pilot skills and afore mentioned modules. It is about as tough as you can make it. Once it is really HOT I can hover over Anglers and just melt them as they go in and out of phase. Erebus has some Prisma's on it. On the big maps at max distance it can be pretty devastating. On shorter maps the Nethers, Lynx's, Scorpions etc. are on you too fast and the charging time/ range of the Prisma become a liability. I have the Basil Pilot for +10% damage for weapons with 800M + range. Like my other comments on Crisis/ Reaper I feel like this is very much a specialist/ second hanger bot/ weapon set up for the big maps. In a brawl it is a paper tiger. (It is a cool looking set up.)
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Post by Jeb on Jun 30, 2023 13:51:54 GMT -5
I've gotten a few ambush kills on Crisis with my Nessa Raven running Pulsar/Magnetar. Timing a good jump for stealth & firepower boost right after a Crisis has started shooting at someone is a thing of joy.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Jul 1, 2023 13:26:19 GMT -5
Theres also nashorn Dont fight me forumites because i will die on this hill thats true.. You WILL DIE on that hill running Nashorns..lol. :-)
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jul 1, 2023 20:39:54 GMT -5
Theres also nashorn Dont fight me forumites because i will die on this hill thats true.. You WILL DIE on that hill running Nashorns..lol. :-) Ive got more kills with nashorn than i ever will trebs
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