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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 6, 2023 22:18:56 GMT -5
I saw a player with the ign Stop Hiding, or Quit Hiding, so in a way, this is for them. In this game, the ability to stay alive and continue to help our team has always been valued and seen as good tactical sense. When players would rush out into enemy fire and die, people would joke about ‘Witness Meee’ or Leroy Jenkins, but would also discuss the general foolishness or lack of situational awareness. However, there is also some hypocrisy in this, because the same tacticians would also have beef with enemies hiding a lot, and clearly this Quit Hiding fellow is one of them, these hypocrites that simultaneously value combat longevity and good tactical decisions, and hate that enemies are doing just that. Lmao. Strictly speaking, it seems to me not unreasonable to isolate this moniker to three specific scenarios I can think of right now: 1) Those players who literally hide almost entirely from engaging combat, for who knows why, maybe just frustrated by the extreme imbalance of this pos game, or they have accepted they suck or cant compete so they just stand still behind cover or keep moving away from combat as if that will somehow make them feel better, depriving enemies of more damage or who the 「fluffernutter」 knows. 2) Those tactical players who actually use immobility, skirmish circumvention to flank distracted enemies, and who do not shoot at distracted enemies, so as not to alert the enemies to their creeping flanking presence until the moment is right, and 3) Hiding to avoid being killed because this particular termination would cost the match. Those are reasonably the only three circumstances that ‘hiding’ is a valid moniker. But usually when someone complains enemies are hiding, it is because they are frustrated the enemy is doing really well at the combo of evasion and assault, and thereby maintaining combat longevity through being unreachable, respectively. Using cover to avoid excessive damage or termination, and briefly attacking only to return to cover, is called ‘evasion’, and should be regarded as good tactical sense. You only say otherwise or disagree because it frustrates you that you are having trouble striking them! So here is the part about taking your own advice to ‘Stop Hiding’ I know this is going to be shocking, lmao, because it clearly still has not dawned on you, that the very reason you are unable to strike those opponents, is that you yourself, are hiding!So if you really want to strike them and brawl them, putchyour big boy pants on, stop hiding, and walk on over there and slap your enemy in the face. Isnt that what youre yelling at them to do - to come out and fight. Get on over there and show them what you think youre made of.  |
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Post by gus169 on Jun 6, 2023 22:30:18 GMT -5
I have a curious form of dyslexia, where any player name which looks like a personal message just reads as "pity me, I'm just a child"
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 6, 2023 22:44:36 GMT -5
I have a curious form of dyslexia, where any player name which looks like a personal message just reads as "pity me, I'm just a child" Hmm, I can see that, but there are certainly some great exceptions to that. For example, the well known player who used to wreck the deck with his Treb Butch, especially on Yamantau, Canyon, and Springfield, named You Mad Bro Lmao |
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Post by munkeeee on Jun 6, 2023 22:54:22 GMT -5
 seriously!!!!! now, as a brawler who has adapted to running a few more builds with some range, 600m, its a challenge FOR ME, to creep to the enemy. I like the challenge, i savor it. it lets me know I can get to ya, and you will get yours. But, like you said, the tactic of it. I get the chance to go deep into red turf and stir up stuff, then its 2Pac all day singing ALL EYES ON ME as reds all turn attention to me and HOPEFULLY the blue smurfs pick up on that and can advance, or at least I take the heat off them a bit to get a better position. The sacrifice is a key element, but in my spiders I can take a beating and dish it out too. |
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Post by gus169 on Jun 6, 2023 23:02:31 GMT -5
I have a curious form of dyslexia, where any player name which looks like a personal message just reads as "pity me, I'm just a child" Hmm, I can see that, but there are certainly some great exceptions to that. For example, the well known player who used to wreck the deck with his Treb Butch, especially on Yamantau, Canyon, and Springfield, named You Mad Bro Lmao chuckles. Yeah, I remember that guy. Is he/she 'mature age'? anyway, I totally agree on the whole camping thing. I'm usually the guy looking stupid for charging in there and getting pasted  |
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 6, 2023 23:23:48 GMT -5
Theres also the irony in that there are weapons specifically made to force movement or they die
Its called zenit
Noricum is better for small fast bots who are too squishy for brawling but still want to do fast and heavy damage imo
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Post by gus169 on Jun 6, 2023 23:28:23 GMT -5
Theres also the irony in that there are weapons specifically made to force movement or they die Its called zenit Noricum is better for small fast bots who are too squishy for brawling but still want to do fast and heavy damage imo I heard the Zenit got a buff a little while back. Travel time on the shells I think. Brought it back into use a bit. I wonder if the Noricum got the same treat. Do you know? |
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 6, 2023 23:32:14 GMT -5
Theres also the irony in that there are weapons specifically made to force movement or they die Its called zenit Noricum is better for small fast bots who are too squishy for brawling but still want to do fast and heavy damage imo I heard the Zenit got a buff a little while back. Travel time on the shells I think. Brought it back into use a bit. I wonder if the Noricum got the same treat. Do you know? That explains my recent surge of kills (and love) for zenits i dont think so for nori cuz its always been very fast by comparison however id be lying to say im certain |
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Jun 7, 2023 1:03:04 GMT -5
Just come on out and let me shoot ya in the face! LMAO Ogre! shadethefluffmech. As far as Zenit/Noricum, Zenits got missile speed buff Noricum got nothing but my suggestion was "buff Noricum reload to 10 seconds". |
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Post by BB on Jun 7, 2023 5:49:50 GMT -5
I respect players that are good at USING COVER to their advantage because they show that they’ve taken the time to learn that skill thru trial and error, and be effective.
At the other end of the spectrum are the Bendy Harpy types that only pop up to shoot while they are protected by their magic, then pop back down into their little hiding place. While it may be fun to do if you’re a 14 year old FTP player ascared of being savaged by every red in the vicinity, it never lasts very long. NEVER
I personally hunt down the hiders as a game within the game fun challenge. Doesn’t matter what I’m driving either, jumping on top of their heads with a Mace Ssack just to see what their reaction will be is reward enough for me.
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Post by Jeb on Jun 7, 2023 8:35:11 GMT -5
The advent/return of extreme-range lasers has given me a fresh hate for end-of-map campers because GOOD LORD they can melt 「dookie」 fast.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 7, 2023 8:56:04 GMT -5
What the enemy sees as BB shows up with a Mace Ssack  Some of the reactions BB sees when he shows up with a Mace Ssack     |
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Post by spectre729 on Jun 7, 2023 9:00:27 GMT -5
i hide to delay my death
why die in 1 second to mk3 prismas in the open when you can die in 2 seconds to a maxed indra with the bubble guns that is coming around the corner because you're hiding behind the buildings(u get to live for an extra 5 seconds)
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 7, 2023 9:09:55 GMT -5
The advent/return of extreme-range lasers has given me a fresh hate for end-of-map campers because GOOD LORD they can melt 「dookie」 fast. Yes. Now theres a need to pick spawns and travel lines much more carefully. Also, using a Tyr with 600+ weapons and a fortified shield helps to pass safely as well as briefly expose to strike the laser mech without taking damage to chassis. Shieldbreaker is useless against physical shields. |
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Post by 079 on Jun 7, 2023 12:08:41 GMT -5
I heard the Zenit got a buff a little while back. Travel time on the shells I think. Brought it back into use a bit. I wonder if the Noricum got the same treat. Do you know? That explains my recent surge of kills (and love) for zenits i dont think so for nori cuz its always been very fast by comparison however id be lying to say im certain There was a proposed Zenit missile speed buff on the Test Server, but it was never actually added. Noricum’s missile speed did get buffed several years ago though. I do think the Zenit buff should be added. |
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Post by 079 on Jun 7, 2023 12:44:49 GMT -5
One of the funniest and most memorable things for 6 Pack to me is new players’ reactions to the different environment. There of course is the titular “these bots are so slow”, but there usually is also a “everyone is corner-shooting and not directly engaging” comment as well. Corner-shooting is annoying to the enemy, and I have seen firsthand how some people simply lack coping mechanisms for it, even in 6 Pack’s classic War Robots mindset.
A recent and particularly funny example of this for me is the player A Bowling Ball (he has a Skyros-heavy hangar in the matchmaker). His sassy and puberty-riddled voice indicate he is young and thus not fully mature, which explains how he initially got quite annoyed by 6 Pack. He hated everything he could not immediately shoot back: Aphids, 600+ meter weapons, and of course, corner-shooting. To his credit, he seems to have wisened up to it all by now, but those beginning weeks were still funny!
Another, more interesting example of this the 6 Pack and Forum Time Drop regular Ryoji. He is a middle-aged man (he has shown his face) and veteran player, so you would think he would be above silly frustrations like these, but he had openly admitted to the opposite. He has expressed annoyance of me and a couple other players’ corner-shooting heavy playstyle, and one recent night charged my position against better judgement because he just had enough of my tactics. My personal theory is that since he has a very powerful matchmaker hangar, being easily bested by (outside of 6 Pack) weaker players stomps on his ego a little.
Now I do not mean to pick on these two players too much (A Bowling Ball is still fun to have around, and Ryoji is easily in my top 5 best 6 Pack players), but they make good case studies of how annoying tactically sound maneuvers can be. It is arguably humiliating to shuffle back into cover while being peppered by an untouchable enemy, leading to irrational hatred of corner-shooting, usage of ranged/homing weapons, or shields. I myself get frustrated sometimes, so I understand it to an extent.
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 7, 2023 13:10:29 GMT -5
I respect players that are good at USING COVER to their advantage because they show that they’ve taken the time to learn that skill thru trial and error, and be effective. At the other end of the spectrum are the Bendy Harpy types that only pop up to shoot while they are protected by their magic, then pop back down into their little hiding place. While it may be fun to do if you’re a 14 year old FTP player ascared of being savaged by every red in the vicinity, it never lasts very long. NEVER I personally hunt down the hiders as a game within the game fun challenge. Doesn’t matter what I’m driving either, jumping on top of their heads with a Mace Ssack just to see what their reaction will be is reward enough for me. I think you added ten years too many... |
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Post by spectre729 on Jun 7, 2023 13:36:23 GMT -5
One of the funniest and most memorable things for 6 Pack to me is new players’ reactions to the different environment. There of course is the titular “these bots are so slow”, but there usually is also a “everyone is corner-shooting and not directly engaging” comment as well. Corner-shooting is annoying to the enemy, and I have seen firsthand how some people simply lack coping mechanisms for it, even in 6 Pack’s classic War Robots mindset. A recent and particularly funny example of this for me is the player A Bowling Ball (he has a Skyros-heavy hangar in the matchmaker). His sassy and puberty-riddled voice indicate he is young and thus not fully mature, which explains how he initially got quite annoyed by 6 Pack. He hated everything he could not immediately shoot back: Aphids, 600+ meter weapons, and of course, corner-shooting. To his credit, he seems to have wisened up to it all by now, but those beginning weeks were still funny! Another, more interesting example of this the 6 Pack and Forum Time Drop regular Ryoji. He is a middle-aged man (he has shown his face) and veteran player, so you would think he would be above silly frustrations like these, but he had openly admitted to the opposite. He has expressed annoyance of me and a couple other players’ corner-shooting heavy playstyle, and one recent night charged my position against better judgement because he just had enough of my tactics. My personal theory is that since he has a very powerful matchmaker hangar, being easily bested by a (outside of 6 Pack) weaker players stomps on his ego a little. Now I do not mean to pick on these two players too much (A Bowling Ball is still fun to have around, and Ryoji is easily in my top 5 best 6 Pack players), but they make good case studies of how annoying tactically sound maneuvers can be. It is arguably humiliating to shuffle back into cover while being peppered by an untouchable enemy, leading to irrational hatred of corner-shooting, usage of ranged/homing weapons, or shields. I myself get frustrated sometimes, so I understand it to an extent. now that you said it, I think I forgot how to cornershoot |
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Post by shadethefluffmech on Jun 7, 2023 14:02:49 GMT -5
One of the funniest and most memorable things for 6 Pack to me is new players’ reactions to the different environment. There of course is the titular “these bots are so slow”, but there usually is also a “everyone is corner-shooting and not directly engaging” comment as well. Corner-shooting is annoying to the enemy, and I have seen firsthand how some people simply lack coping mechanisms for it, even in 6 Pack’s classic War Robots mindset. A recent and particularly funny example of this for me is the player A Bowling Ball (he has a Skyros-heavy hangar in the matchmaker). His sassy and puberty-riddled voice indicate he is young and thus not fully mature, which explains how he initially got quite annoyed by 6 Pack. He hated everything he could not immediately shoot back: Aphids, 600+ meter weapons, and of course, corner-shooting. To his credit, he seems to have wisened up to it all by now, but those beginning weeks were still funny! Another, more interesting example of this the 6 Pack and Forum Time Drop regular Ryoji. He is a middle-aged man (he has shown his face) and veteran player, so you would think he would be above silly frustrations like these, but he had openly admitted to the opposite. He has expressed annoyance of me and a couple other players’ corner-shooting heavy playstyle, and one recent night charged my position against better judgement because he just had enough of my tactics. My personal theory is that since he has a very powerful matchmaker hangar, being easily bested by a (outside of 6 Pack) weaker players stomps on his ego a little. Now I do not mean to pick on these two players too much (A Bowling Ball is still fun to have around, and Ryoji is easily in my top 5 best 6 Pack players), but they make good case studies of how annoying tactically sound maneuvers can be. It is arguably humiliating to shuffle back into cover while being peppered by an untouchable enemy, leading to irrational hatred of corner-shooting, usage of ranged/homing weapons, or shields. I myself get frustrated sometimes, so I understand it to an extent. now that you said it, I think I forgot how to cornershoot Well You attach a nerf gun to your punishers and now it folds around corners All jokes aside You get to the edge of cover and shoot around it if my memory serves |
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Post by megawatt22 on Jun 18, 2023 12:38:22 GMT -5
I absolutely love using the scorp to pop behind some skirt wearing, hiding, bendy bullet slinging mofo! What’s worse than just hiding is the bendy bullet red bot hiding behind cover. Even better when they take an extra second to understand that I’m behind them sucking the life bar down tell they crumble.
I will even teleport to a flying bot in mid flight if I can get the kill from one of these hiders.
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