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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 26, 2022 11:17:50 GMT -5
OK, I'm not Mr. Siren lately, but it did occur to me...
Compare and contrast Siren or Hawk?
A decidedly interesting tweak would be to run ECU shield on the Hawk and now with 2 x heavies and 1 x light they both kind of have the same firepower. Sorta. Except for the huge hawk beam and then you need to run shieldbreaker to be effective.
Your thoughts appreciated.
@junkmale - You run bendy Hawk. Thoughts?
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Apr 26, 2022 12:29:08 GMT -5
I could never run Hawk well, so I made a camper Hawk and I loved it. Prisma and Volt (I know mismatched a bit, but effective in that the volts can penetrate defense that Prisma can't). Better than most campers, it can strongly defend itself and escape with it's ability (Hawk beam and fast in flight). I am not running campers much these days, but it is my preferred camper build.
I am not a Siren fan myself (prefer Harpy). I get that some folks run it well, but I feel it does better in a flock than as a solo, and certainly not great for beacon games unless very specifically built to do so (lots of status and splash/area effect weapons) to provide air control support to contested beacons.
Hawk can be great at beating up titans as a late drop but you need to be elusive. It is relatively fragile, similar to Siren. Siren with Bendies can also take down titans...I've seen Ecu Hawks builds played very effectively and should help with the Bendie issue still everywhere and should also divert the Titan blinding weapon.
Good Thread. I've thought about this comparison and the first bot I pulled in to replace my bendy Siren was a Hornet / Magnetar Hawk. Did about as well (i.e. - unimpressive) so it didn't last, but it was fun just diversifying. I think they are going to be similarly effective in slightly nuanced ways.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Apr 26, 2022 12:31:47 GMT -5
Instead of SB, I run Quantum Radar. It helps to get the Murometz. I don’t see too many Purple Shields, but there’s an awful lot of Stealth goin’ on.
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Apr 26, 2022 13:21:48 GMT -5
Instead of SB, I run Quantum Radar. It helps to get the Murometz. I don’t see too many Purple Shields, but there’s an awful lot of Stealth goin’ on. Great point! I always ran my camper Hawk with Quantum Radar for the Orochi control and Muro damage. Once charged up, the Prismas were pretty damaging to Muro. |
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Post by ismsean on Apr 26, 2022 13:44:58 GMT -5
I am or trying to be a Siren guy. It is in and out the lineup. You just can beat that built in SB. That quick return to the launch helps a lot when folks focus on you. I run mine with Quantum Radar for 1st drop on large maps and late drop for smaller maps during that Metz phase. I would love to see the damage comparison of the hawk special cannon vs the flight of a siren/harpy. Remember the Hawk cannon was nerfed for regular bots.
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Post by Koko Bop on Apr 26, 2022 15:46:27 GMT -5
Capital suggestion, Ollie!
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Apr 26, 2022 15:58:17 GMT -5
Have a Harpy and a Hawk in line up. And, happy with both.
Rather surprised. Have M2 12 Tumble on harpy, and does pretty good.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Apr 27, 2022 9:18:17 GMT -5
I am or trying to be a Siren guy. It is in and out the lineup. You just can beat that built in SB. That quick return to the launch helps a lot when folks focus on you. I run mine with Quantum Radar for 1st drop on large maps and late drop for smaller maps during that Metz phase. I would love to see the damage comparison of the hawk special cannon vs the flight of a siren/harpy. Remember the Hawk cannon was nerfed for regular bots. Thanks for this. I may throw-in my dusty Hawk for the heckuvit and see what happens. I basically never run SB but the hawk beam really needs it. Or, needs it for an early drop, and conversely needs max damage ability for late drop. Decisions decisions... |
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