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Post by Desc440 on Oct 23, 2020 11:42:27 GMT -5
A simple question: which do you prefer - the War Robots meta as it is now, with magic invicible abilities aplenty that emphasises timing over any other skill, or "classic" War Robots (read: Leos, Grifs and Tashas being your mainliners) that emphasised positioning and battlefield awareness.
Personnaly I 「fluffernutter」ing HATE the current War Robots meta. I fell in love with this game when coming up through the ranks, shooting other newbies in my Leo. It all started going sideways once I hit Diamond because of the shallow pool of players on Steam.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Oct 23, 2020 12:01:26 GMT -5
Sweet Aunt Jemima, to be able to go back to anytime within Dec 2016 to just before the dash release!
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Post by teraflx on Oct 23, 2020 12:17:09 GMT -5
I didn't mind the dash days so I would set my time machine to early January 2018 before the release of the Spectre (Update 3.6.0) and after the big nerf to Shocktrain (Update 3.4.0).  |
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Post by Jeb on Oct 23, 2020 12:20:04 GMT -5
For me, "classic" = pre-Pantheon, which is right around when I started playing. Anything that damages me the more I shoot it can go die in a fire. Jump, dash, stealth, even ancile/aegis shields...I don't mind those, because you can counter-play them. But I reject the "ha ha why are you hitting yourself?" garbage.
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Post by no pain 80 on Oct 23, 2020 12:20:11 GMT -5
a jump with your Griffin,or a flyby with your hover, guns blazing was something to watch back then. Now one cant take their bots out of cover an inch without getting smoked unless running stealth/DR/invincibility shield/leeching, who knows what else BS mechanic to follow, etc.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Oct 23, 2020 12:55:01 GMT -5
TBH, I like some of the speed aspects of the modern meta. Loki zipping around gathering undefended beacons... But the French AM started the whole hella OP slope that led to Hawk that... ugh.
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Post by punishingcossack on Oct 23, 2020 14:08:22 GMT -5
the one person who voted for "I like the current meta and "classic" War Robots both" is mhphakeem |
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Post by Blurred Vision on Oct 23, 2020 14:23:56 GMT -5
Man, reading these replies makes me realize how long I've been playing War Robots. Longer than many, but not all.
To me, "classic" War Robots is hangar-based MM. Wanna run vs heavy bots? Bust out your upper level Galahads & Lances, Rhinos & Griffs. Wanna play some mid-level bronze vs lights & some mediums? Here comes the Rogatkas & Golems.
I started playing just as the Wild Wild West bunch were released, long before the Dash trio or Pantheon bots, when tri-Mag Gepards were the most-feared hunters.
The beginning of the decline of War Robots wasn't a particular family of bots, but rather it was leagues and the slow yet rather sly peddling of power to advance up the chain. We saw it then but not many knew how far Pixonic would go, how far they'd take it, and how ugly it'd get or how blatant their tactics.
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Post by -Stalker- on Oct 23, 2020 14:47:25 GMT -5
For me, "classic" = pre-Pantheon, which is right around when I started playing. Anything that damages me the more I shoot it can go die in a fire. Jump, dash, stealth, even ancile/aegis shields...I don't mind those, because you can counter-play them. But I reject the "ha ha why are you hitting yourself?" garbage. I think that the Leech adds strategy, and it's easy to get around. It can be kind of annoying. And sometimes I kind of feel like go die in a pit, you stupid Leech, so I guess it's pretty annoying. Ignore what I just said. ; P |
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Post by alexmcph on Oct 23, 2020 15:20:53 GMT -5
The old ways rewarded good play including positioning, skill and tactics. The game is a joke now. Look at the scorpion, how much skill does it take to use a scorpion? Its embarrassing.
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Post by -Stalker- on Oct 23, 2020 15:23:41 GMT -5
Look at the scorpion, how much skill does it take to use a scorpion? None bro, none 😭 |
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Post by milty72 on Oct 23, 2020 16:41:22 GMT -5
For me, "classic" = pre-Pantheon, which is right around when I started playing. Anything that damages me the more I shoot it can go die in a fire. Jump, dash, stealth, even ancile/aegis shields...I don't mind those, because you can counter-play them. But I reject the "ha ha why are you hitting yourself?" garbage. Pretty much this for me too. I have learnt and did enjoy learning how to counter the meta with my old stuff but I rely on a bit of luck, an inexperienced red, a mid level meta bot and weapons and when they are caught on their own and they are feeling invincible. When all that happens oh the joy it brings. |
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Post by spartan44 on Oct 24, 2020 0:35:07 GMT -5
I'd pay a monthly subscription to go back to the Camelot bot days and hanger power MM. Call it Walking War Robots classic. I'm talking having the game EXACTLY FROZEN at that point. Economy, prices, bots, weapons...everything. It would be super popular. My guess is the classic version would quickly eclipse the current version. I would not even care if I had to start all over. It would be worth it.
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Post by foxypotato on Oct 24, 2020 0:52:36 GMT -5
I have fond memories of the old days but I like playing bots from the classic era with newer weapons, pilots, modules ect even more. I even like the newer bots too with the exception of some crazy OP stuff that dominates and is part of the meta and former metas making them commonplace on the battlefield unfortunately. Honestly the game is a stone's throw away from being perfect again with some serious nerfs to the OP stuff. I'm talking Ao Jun, Specter and Haechi type nerfs. All those bots were considered to make the older bots unplayable and heralding the end of times but after their nerfs have become more or less well balanced with the older bots and no longer an issue but a welcome addition to the game. Unfortunately there remain a number of bots that absolutely dominate with a cavernous power gap that remain to be nerfed that pix will not nerf anytime soon. Pix depends upon their sale be it spending to acquire, level or just to acquire f2p and club casuals that don't have them to frustrate the casuals into spending to maybe get one of their own. There is however moments where one OP bonkers bull「dookie」 bot is nerfed into a balanced state and the replacement has not yet proliferated to fill the shoes. This is the state we are in currently with the Ao Jun and Hawk. For the time being in mid leagues and low Champions League the game is good. The Ao Jun nerf has made things better but the eventual Hawk proliferation will make things bad again. As bad as that is it is still preferable to having both Ao Jun AND Hawk 「dookie」ting up the game.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 24, 2020 1:08:44 GMT -5
The only thing I didn’t like about the game early on was when there was only Domination mode, and most of the bots were slow as crap, and every time I got killed it took me forever to get back to where the action was. Meanwhile, the guys with the Brit bots were able to stay alive longer (I didn’t have any yet) and mop up all the damage points while I was slogging across the map. They fixed that with Beacon Rush, and then really fixed it when they finally let you choose your game mode. Making random mode optional was the last good thing they did for the game and the players.
Then when they dropped the dashes, I had to pretty much abandon upgrading my still-in-progress hangar and start working on acquiring and leveling dash bots. At the time I was still dumping a few $$$ into the game and had some pretty well leveled bots and weapons, including my prize Orkan Haechi, getting a few to 1:12 just in time for the onslaught of stealth, including the cursed Sphincter. That was the beginning of the end for me. If I knew then what I know now .... I would have stayed the course with my old gear and taken my lumps and never would have dumped all those resources on the dashes.
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Post by frunobulax on Oct 24, 2020 13:18:55 GMT -5
A simple question: which do you prefer - the War Robots meta as it is now, with magic invicible abilities aplenty that emphasises timing over any other skill, or "classic" War Robots (read: Leos, Grifs and Tashas being your mainliners) that emphasised positioning and battlefield awareness.
Personnaly I 「fluffernutter」ing HATE the current War Robots meta. I fell in love with this game when coming up through the ranks, shooting other newbies in my Leo. It all started going sideways once I hit Diamond because of the shallow pool of players on Steam.
So we should have 33 and counting new recruits for 6pack, right?  Just had some 5v5 fun in fight night. Pixo just about killed the Lancelot (it gets stuck and won't move), and Rockets appear to be weaker too (travel slower), but we still had a blast. Definately a Punisher/Plasma meta now, with shielded bots up and coming. Haven't seen this many Rhinos and Galahads since 3 years ago.
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Post by frunobulax on Oct 24, 2020 16:33:29 GMT -5
Then when they dropped the dashes, I had to pretty much abandon upgrading my still-in-progress hangar and start working on acquiring and leveling dash bots. At the time I was still dumping a few $$$ into the game and had some pretty well leveled bots and weapons I remember dropping the then-ridiculous amount of $100 on the game when Dash bots came out. What did I get back then for my investment?
100 spins, and every single one would drop a whole item (or gold/silver). From memory,
- 3 different Dash bots (new, of course)
- 2-3 Scourges (brand new at the time)
- 7-8k gold
- 2-3 older meta bots (Lancelot, Galahad, Rog)
- 3-4 meta weapons (Zeus, Tarans and such)
- some silver and probably some rubbish, don't really remember
As I was starting a fresh account on Facebook at the time, this was the best value I ever got from this game, easily. What do you get now if you drop $100 on the game? One bot if you're lucky, maybe a weapon or two, and components that you can finish half a year later? Oh yes, let's not forget power cells. Ah well...
Edit: Actually I spent $200. Oh boy. And we got 130 spins for $100. Got all 3 Dashes, 1 Doc, 2 Galahads, 3 Scourges, 1 Tempest, 1 Ancile, 1 Zeus, 15k gold.
Bought me the 5th slot and set me up with a perfect meta hangar at the time (3 Dashes, Orkan Doc, Plasma Galahad). Obviously $200 was and is a LOT of money, but I think I must have played several thousand games with that gear before Facebook detoriated to the current levels, and I capitulated to the Spectre insanity.
Shortly after that, a single Inquisitor would cost $350.
The only thing I didn’t like about the game early on was when there was only Domination mode, How ironic. Back then we chose game modes because of preference. Today we choose modes because Dom or TDM is less overrun with maxed Hawks/titans. I can't remember playing anything except BR when it came out. Now I play Dom because I find BR insufferable because of death squads and TDM insufferable because playing hide and seek is not my style. |
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Oct 24, 2020 19:26:24 GMT -5
My fond memories. Putting level 6 tumbles on a level 2 Cossacks and crashing a Gep farmer party. After giving one the "tickle" introduction. The rest of the farmers chased me around and mech'd me out, but my team won. Worth it. Best lol.
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Post by AVC on Oct 25, 2020 6:25:19 GMT -5
What, good old walking robots versus flying/stealth/invulnerable/teleporting/stoopido bots?
It's a no-brainer really
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Post by Cyclone Nodens on Oct 25, 2020 7:59:51 GMT -5
The current meta... because I love it when you can just go around with bots that will never get nerfed ever unlike the old things that already struggle and still get massively nerfed. CURSE YOU PIX JK
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Oct 25, 2020 11:37:19 GMT -5
I like the in between meta, the short era where tanks and shotguns were in style and people ran stuff like Fenrirs and Invaders.
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