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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jul 20, 2020 9:27:40 GMT -5
Been seeing lots of questions on how to build bots to kill titans so I wanted to start this. I want everyone to chip in with bots that they have that can kill titans. The criteria must be as such:
Can take large chunks out of even maxed titans and can kill them if given enough time.
Can help the teammates with other stuff to win the game rather than a behemoth sitting in the back hiding (zeniths or such).
Preferably have a specific titan it kills best and have one you have trouble with.
With that in place I will start.
I use an avenger shredder mercury, the build lets me lock titans down and should they turn to attack me I can jump to escape death.
I use lv 10 avenger and lv 9 shredders as well as sharpshooter and master gunsmith with a healing module. This build isn't the best against arthurs but it can break their shield well enough. It does extremely well against mings though.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jul 20, 2020 9:42:37 GMT -5
Support Cryo/Rime: My Nightingale and Loki have them. The freeze can slow their approach to center at Yamantau and it gives the rest of the team a +20% whack at them.
The Nightingale Frigidaire build can actually give a Arthur/Kid something to think about. I actually got an Arthur to back-off center at Valley with this build. "This hurts too much, I'm going someplace else!"
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Jul 20, 2020 9:54:55 GMT -5
I appreciate the topic and can throw out the typical Ao Jun builds, freeze/flames vs Arthur, using lockdown on mings. But in all honesty now that titans have been out a bit and most have had a chance to level them to ‘decent’ levels; it must be said that titans are titan killers and when the reds are dropping them, you should be too. It’s incredibly frustrating to see someone dropping their titan in the waning moments of match when it was obvious that it should have been brought out long ago. Just my worthless 2cents here...
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 20, 2020 10:00:12 GMT -5
Maxed ones are going to be hard period. That said I have taken a number of titans out with my Ao Jun Glory lately. Mostly Mings but others as well.
Most titans are not very leveled IMO.
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Post by The VVatcher on Jul 20, 2020 10:05:16 GMT -5
Some players are getting good at using Ravana, utilizing the heal module, against the Arthur.
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Post by spectre729 on Jul 20, 2020 10:09:09 GMT -5
i use a 3x 1.9 avengers fury in expert. Unfortunately, I don't have sharpshooter and acceleration skills. I don't have enough gold to do so
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on Jul 20, 2020 10:17:53 GMT -5
Some players are getting good at using Ravana, utilizing the heal module, against the Arthur. Yep, Ravana Storm, flame, cryo or leech are good v Arthur |
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Post by bahogilok on Jul 20, 2020 10:28:21 GMT -5
I used to run 3x viper falcon. It has decent ground speed and resistance during reload to scurry to hiding spots. The gentle looking projectiles with non threatening initial damage usually allowed me to shoot for quite a bit before getting noticed.
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Post by no pain 80 on Jul 20, 2020 10:31:59 GMT -5
cryo ravana, rime blitz, glacier Ao Jun...
1) approach within 300 m (not go further than 110 m) staying behind a cover
2) makes sure titan's attention is elsewhere
3) come out of cover, deploy all your load
4) go back to cover
5) change position
(2-5) until titan dies
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Jul 20, 2020 10:38:06 GMT -5
I'm successful vs Mings with my shredder-quaker blitz. Mags do very well also.
Approach as follows, sneak in as close as I can, activate break-in to suppress, and run under the ming, avoid fire, use cover, all I can to screw up with its targeting, and repeat the process.
I'm successful with my leadhose Hades vs the kid and farthur. It's important to have those guns highly leveled, and use of sharpshooter. Hades purple dress and inbuilt kinetic gun give you lot of time to unload tons of lead onto those fatsos. It's also important to keep your distance to avoid fart and stove. Hades with RoadHog is very mobile. Kills farthurs shield well.
Leadhose rayker does almost as good vs walking titans, and better than Hades vs Mings because of it's 600m suppression beam.
Non splash or target lock Nodens are vulnerable to fast bots with shotguns, flamers and such. You just, need time to take em out as you circle around.
Lots of variations here, rayker and Hades do as good with shredders instead of punishers and viper instead of avenger.
This is my 2¢, even though I play in high masters, and don't check red titan level after the game, so, I'm not sure about vs maxed titans part mentioned above...
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Post by Munki on Jul 20, 2020 10:40:44 GMT -5
My secret Titan Killer is my Ember/Igniter CERBERUS! Maxed out with two Fortifiers and Phase Shift Active. Arthurs are challenging unless I have helpful blues to distract them but Kids and Ao Mings cannot block the Blackout shot. Tactfully using the environment to protect between volleys, I can suppress and lockdown a Titan for 5 seconds and unload on them then pull away around cover while finishing the fuel from the flame weapons. The Aegis shielding works great if the enemy is suppressed. This bot can fight a long time even with only a few thousand hit points all thanks to the Aegis Shield.
EDIT: Nodens are pretty challenging since they can suppress me right back!
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Post by Desc440 on Jul 20, 2020 11:22:34 GMT -5
Twin sharpshooting Avengers Bulwark with triple maxed Fortis.
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Post by Jeb on Jul 20, 2020 11:33:55 GMT -5
From the start, you were never supposed to be able to kill a Titan with a regular bot in any kind of normal fashion. They're supposed to be THAT hard to bring down. The best performers I've had are a fully maxed-out pilot-skilled Leo with Thunder/Gust/Magnums up close and personal with a Kid, and a maxed-out plasma Raven working on a half-dead Ao Ming. But mainly the best weapon against a Titan is another Titan and/or a combined effort of blues.
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Post by nix on Jul 20, 2020 12:44:28 GMT -5
Nucleon or Avenger Ao Jun for hit-n-run against Ming and Nodens.
Glacier or Ember Ao Jun against Arthur.
Also: A plasma Ming has a lot of trouble targeting an ankle-biter, so a late game Nightingale or Blitz can neutralize and eventually take one out if he can’t afford to take off and cede a beacon.
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Post by wrampager1 on Jul 20, 2020 13:06:07 GMT -5
Au Jun with 2x MKII Avengers with the sharpshooter, speed shooter, and various damage skills.
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Jul 20, 2020 13:38:19 GMT -5
Blitz flamer works well against Arthur and Kid. Does ok vs Ming but better suited for the ground pounders.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 20, 2020 13:44:21 GMT -5
Au Jun with 2x MKII Avengers with the sharpshooter, speed shooter, and various damage skills. Hey bro, I came across a test that was done and meant to post it in Kaos discord. In a nutshell, it compared Nucleon, Viper, and Avenger. The Avenger compared to the other two actually did quite poorly. This is obvious post-Avenger nerf. Viper did quite a bit better than Avenger, and Nucleon did way better than both of those. So you might wanna try the Nucleon conjoined with all your enhancements, and sprinkle some Death Mark in there for good measure |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 19:17:45 GMT -5
Pulsar Leech against Mings and Kids. Kite from outside the 500m range, continuously locking down. It's a disgusting build. Obviously Farths is more problematic, but you can still make them rage quit or get reckless.
Thermite Ao Jun. Yeah yeah, laugh away, these don't miss against Titans and take chunks off them without exposing yourself (oo-er).
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Post by alphaomega001 on Jul 20, 2020 21:48:23 GMT -5
With Flames fixed anything with .Noticed my ember jun doing serious damage.Dont forget avengers do double damage to shields.I love also using Ravana w jump storms to go after them too .Ive landed on top of authors then they blow me up in the air is fun .
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Post by kdsteph3530 on Jul 20, 2020 22:58:14 GMT -5
Some players are getting good at using Ravana, utilizing the heal module, against the Arthur. Yep, Ravana Storm, flame, cryo or leech are good v Arthur but only if their shield is broken or you shoot them in the back... I'll second ravana storm expecially w/ overdrive, and using cover to reload and recharge abilities. When I'm already below 50%, I can knock off >50% of a full ao ming's health, and take out an entire Kid 1 on 1. i'm also having some decent success with blaze blitz |
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 20, 2020 23:02:38 GMT -5
My secret Titan Killer is my Ember/Igniter CERBERUS! Maxed out with two Fortifiers and Phase Shift Active. Arthurs are challenging unless I have helpful blues to distract them but Kids and Ao Mings cannot block the Blackout shot. Cerberus is also the best bot I have against Titans due to the fact that you can lock down/suppress every 10 seconds and deal "decent" damage with Wasp/Viper combo. |
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Post by Joopiter on Jul 21, 2020 0:59:59 GMT -5
Not exactly the approach you were looking for in this thread.....But.... A late game Loki is a Ming's worst nightmare. In squad, we run 2 Lokis for the last 3rd of the match. The top meta has shifted slightly to more mings and loki's are an amazing cheap counter.
And in a roundabout way it is a titan killer because folks will have to eject from their healthy but slow-?bum-bum? titan to protect a beacon across the map.
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Post by vonpaulus on Jul 21, 2020 1:12:53 GMT -5
My anti-Ming bot is my Rayker.
Shredders in the light slot and glance give it a long range lockdown/suppression combo.
I have a Nucleon mounted on top and if the Mings are distracted it can move their health bar visibly down.
Spider bot mobility allows it to duck in and out of cover.
Phase shift allows it a small window of time to be in the open, whether repositioning or when the Ming turns on you suddenly.
If a Ming can give it their full attention, especially in a light cover environment, it doesn’t last long. But for harassing a Ming that is being pressed by a friendly Titan it does a very good job.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 21, 2020 1:14:16 GMT -5
Not exactly the approach you were looking for in this thread.....But.... A late game Loki is a Ming's worst nightmare. In squad, we run 2 Lokis for the last 3rd of the match. The top meta has shifted slightly to more mings and loki's are an amazing cheap counter. And in a roundabout way it is a titan killer because folks will have to eject from their healthy but slow-?bum-bum? titan to protect a beacon across the map. I built a Loki for this exact same reason even though this bot does not suit my playstyle. I still have it shelved at level 9 though as I can't stand the anticipation of whether or not a Titan Quantum Radar gets implemented. |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jul 21, 2020 1:36:15 GMT -5
My anti-Ming bot is my Rayker. Shredders in the light slot and glance give it a long range lockdown/suppression combo. I have a Nucleon mounted on top and if the Mings are distracted it can move their health bar visibly down. Spider bot mobility allows it to duck in and out of cover. Phase shift allows it a small window of time to be in the open, whether repositioning or when the Ming turns on you suddenly. If a Ming can give it their full attention, especially in a light cover environment, it doesn’t last long. But for harassing a Ming that is being pressed by a friendly Titan it does a very good job. Viper shredder does this extremely well. Putting DM on there was probably the bast thing I did. For me I found walking in and out of their range to suppress and DM them was best, then if they turned towards me because I suppressed them I would already be outside their range. Then should a friendly titan come along I could move up and start harassing them with the weapons while they were distracted. Mings getting locked down, suppressed AND death marked are easy to deal with for anyone. |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jul 21, 2020 1:40:05 GMT -5
Blitz flamer works well against Arthur and Kid. Does ok vs Ming but better suited for the ground pounders. Building a blitz with 3 blaze and an ECU. What module should I run, I have the legendary pilot if that helps. |
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jul 21, 2020 1:42:30 GMT -5
My secret Titan Killer is my Ember/Igniter CERBERUS! Maxed out with two Fortifiers and Phase Shift Active. Arthurs are challenging unless I have helpful blues to distract them but Kids and Ao Mings cannot block the Blackout shot. Cerberus is also the best bot I have against Titans due to the fact that you can lock down/suppress every 10 seconds and deal "decent" damage with Wasp/Viper combo. I can see that, would go with the flames if anything but it sounds like it would work well. Haven't leveled my cerberus (looks cool for display but doesn't sound like fun for me) so if I ever get around to it I will try that, thanks! |
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Post by indian on Jul 21, 2020 1:43:54 GMT -5
The thing with titans is that when your ordinary robots kill it, it is 100% a low leveled titan.
Just the experience from my own aoming with machineguns, when it was at stock level any of the meta robots took it down pretty easily. But now i have just leveled it to level 20 something with the durability (core or hull i dont remember)and now it has 100 defense points which translates to 50% resistance. And now no single meta robot can exterminate my aoming because i have invested most of my platinum on the vengence and retaliators, so when trading shots i always win versus any regaular bot irrespective of meta or not and some times i can even take on 2 maxed matabots at once.
What i want to imply is that if you want to counter a titan then your titan is the best option as everybody had have enough time to collect platinum and upgrade the titan and its weapons.
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 21, 2020 1:56:59 GMT -5
The thing with titans is that when your ordinary robots kill it, it is 100% a low leveled titan. True. But some bots can do a bit of damage even to maxed Mings.
Anti-titan DPS discussion here.
I jump into my Viper Ao Jun to fight titans in champ. Avenger Ao Jun is the backup plan, or first choice against an Arthur that we can't draw into crossfire.
In my smurf in Gold, a Punisher Griffin is still a decent option against the Kids encountered there.
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 21, 2020 2:00:45 GMT -5
Not exactly the approach you were looking for in this thread.....But.... A late game Loki is a Ming's worst nightmare. In squad, we run 2 Lokis for the last 3rd of the match. The top meta has shifted slightly to more mings and loki's are an amazing cheap counter. True. I can't count how many games I've seen go down the drain because my fellow blue teammates completely forgot about beacons once the red titans were spawned. It's all good and well to counter titans with lockdown, but if you're down in beacons and plasma Mings are hovering within 520m of all beacons, the only way to turn the game is to grab a beacon or two. As discussed in other threads, that's why I think that AJs are the best anti-titan bots in the game right now, as they can both damage a titan AND get to a contested beacon and turn it, even though they might have to sacrifice themselves in the process. |
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