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Post by daddytroopa on Jul 9, 2020 3:14:39 GMT -5
Ok I'm not seeing things. Just had a battle with an enemy Ao Jun ... he was in CONSTANT stealth, walking around, never flying. He was using two Redeemers and also using dragon breath while WALKING in FULL STEALTH! Wings were out constantly. If this some kind of pilot skill? If so this is ridiculously powerful. No I know you think I'm high but when I saw it the first time, I thought it was a Loki. When I found out it was a Jun, I followed it around (sacrificing 4 of my bots) and took some screenshots.
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Post by daddytroopa on Jul 9, 2020 3:16:16 GMT -5
Ok I know the screenshots look like he was landing but I'm telling you, he never took flight.
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Post by dobby on Jul 9, 2020 5:02:00 GMT -5
Yes, happened to me last night, though I thought I saw him fly first (but could be mistaken as there were three AJs hovering over centre on Yam). I suspect the cheating 「bum-bum」-hat knew what he was doing as he didn't even attempt to take cover when his Avengers were reloading, also his flames did stop but he remained in stealth for at least 20 seconds. I was slowly managing to damage him with Storms as we weaved around each other but 20 seconds later I was meched (his teammates were firing on me also). Would have reported him but wasn't sure which player he was (couldn't see his name). I think he was on Android as I couldn't check any Red hangar at the end.
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Jul 9, 2020 5:23:42 GMT -5
This happened to me today, but it was a Nightingale, not an Ao Jun. So, less of an issue (no weapons), but it was stealthed and hovering about a foot above the ground, dancing around on a beacon. Had to ditch taser bot (no lock) for a flamer in order to kill it.
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Post by shogunsg on Jul 9, 2020 5:39:51 GMT -5
Had encountered 2 of the said Ao Jun. But no inbuilt weps were firing, only their equipped weps were firing while walking in stealth all the time. After the bot i was in is dead, i dropped in my YL Ao Jun and killed both of them, and proceeded to target all of their remaining bots.
1 thing that got me thinking is if its a hack or bug. Because both of the players that I encountered only had 1 Ao Jun in their hanger and it happened after taking their first flight. The rest of their bots are other bots with their respective abilities as per normal. Both are on Android platform.
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Post by frunobulax on Jul 9, 2020 5:45:43 GMT -5
Report it to Pixo. They can add it to the list of bugs they're working on...
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Post by dobby on Jul 9, 2020 6:05:00 GMT -5
Had encountered 2 of the said Ao Jun. But no inbuilt weps were firing, only their equipped weps were firing while walking in stealth all the time. After the bot i was in is dead, i dropped in my YL Ao Jun and killed both of them, and proceeded to target all of their remaining bots. 1 thing that got me thinking is if its a hack or bug. Because both of the players that I encountered only had 1 Ao Jun in their hanger and it happened after taking their first flight. The rest of their bots are other bots with their respective abilities as per normal. Both are on Android platform. Yeah the flames Eventually stopped on the one I was facing, mostly the damage was from 2 Avengers in my face; he behaved as if he knew he was in stealth while grounded (didn't bother with cover when reloading, other Reds were on the beacon, and this was in Dom not BR), but maybe I am reading to much into it. I went through at least 5 Ravana shifts, damaging him a bit with Storms in between shifts. If I didn't have 2 or 3 other Reds firing at me I probably could have took him out. All the other players AJs in that match seemed to function normally; just this one player seemed to be affected. IDK for sure which of the Ao Jun players it was but I suspected the one player whose name I didn't see displayed much in that match as they were almost always in stealth. I think he was eventually taken out by a Blue Ao Jun with Yang Lee, but then he came back with more AJs; felt like they had 4 AJs and one Loki in their hangar but I couldn't verify as the reds were all on a different platform.
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Post by dobby on Jul 9, 2020 6:07:30 GMT -5
Just speculation: perhaps this is to do with the disguise unit?
Maybe someone here with a disguise unit and an Ao Jun could try out using them together and try activating stealth at different points to see if they can replicate and report this.
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Jul 9, 2020 6:56:29 GMT -5
Just speculation: perhaps this is to do with the disguise unit? Maybe someone here with a disguise unit and an Ao Jun could try out using them together and try activating stealth at different points to see if they can replicate and report this. Didn't the disguise unit create a bubble around the bot on the test server - was that animation peculiar just to TS and not replicated on Live Server? I dunno if so, because the Nightingale I was facing was like that for 15-20 seconds.
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Post by dobby on Jul 9, 2020 7:38:47 GMT -5
Just speculation: perhaps this is to do with the disguise unit? Maybe someone here with a disguise unit and an Ao Jun could try out using them together and try activating stealth at different points to see if they can replicate and report this. Didn't the disguise unit create a bubble around the bot on the test server - was that animation peculiar just to TS and not replicated on Last Stand? I dunno if so, because the Nightingale I was facing was like that for 15-20 seconds. I have seen a Leech with disguise unit and it seemed to have the bubble. My thinking though is that there may be some unusual (buggy) interaction between the disguise unit and a stealth based bot like Ao Jun. Perhaps if the Ao Jun goes into stealth and is attacked while in stealth enough to trigger the disguise unit that somehow they go into double stealth and don't come out of it again when landed. IDK just speculation at this point.
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Post by Poopface on Jul 9, 2020 7:42:11 GMT -5
I ran into an Ao Jun with the constant stealth bug, also. Happened this morning on the new map. Don't believe he had dragon breath, though.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 9, 2020 7:46:04 GMT -5
The old cycle the router to get stuck in stealth bug. Stealth bot pilots are the worst. A lot of them intentionally lag to make their stealth last longer by appearing to hover in stealth to the other players or to lag teleport across the sky in an Ao Jun making them near impossible be to hit even with Quantum Radar.
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Post by daddytroopa on Jul 10, 2020 19:32:14 GMT -5
I ran into an Ao Jun with the constant stealth bug, also. Happened this morning on the new map. Don't believe he had dragon breath, though. Look at my screenshots in the OP, I 「dookied」 you not, this guy had drag breath on a deathwing Ao Jun with constant stealth wasting everyone. Not to imply anything, but this guy was walking around like he knew it too...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 21:16:48 GMT -5
The old cycle the router to get stuck in stealth bug. Stealth bot pilots are the worst. A lot of them intentionally lag to make their stealth last longer by appearing to hover in stealth to the other players or to lag teleport across the sky in an Ao Jun making them near impossible be to hit even with Quantum Radar. Do you have ANY evidence for this, or are you just making stuff up again?
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Post by diddlydums on Jul 10, 2020 21:25:57 GMT -5
Same thing for me today. Walking constant stealth in Ao Jun while breathing fire and firing Avengers. Took screenshots of the “Commander “. Bug or cheat- don’t know.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 10, 2020 21:33:04 GMT -5
The old cycle the router to get stuck in stealth bug. Stealth bot pilots are the worst. A lot of them intentionally lag to make their stealth last longer by appearing to hover in stealth to the other players or to lag teleport across the sky in an Ao Jun making them near impossible be to hit even with Quantum Radar. Do you have ANY evidence for this, or are you just making stuff up again? On what? Both were openly discussed and commonly reported in the Specter era. It was common practice to internationally lag to get your Specter's stealth jump to last longer. There were tons and tons of reports of this from players that would jump at the same time as a red specter, the read one would float in the air making the blue player land and end stealth 1st then kill the blue player before its stealth wore off. International lagging was confirmed in these thread as a tactic that was employed by people actually doing it There was also the common tactic of cycling the wifi connection or router during a stealth jump to get the Specter to get stuck in permanent stealth. There were numerous examples of this being wide spread and patches had to be put out to stop it. I see the intentional lagging with Ao Jun all the time. The bot will hover in the air in stealth before landing and will lag teleport across the sky making it difficult to hit while it has no problems taking out bots withe dual Avengers and built in auto flame thrower. The bot benifits heavily from a little bit of lag and we KNOW this tactic has been employed on purpose in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 23:25:27 GMT -5
Do you have ANY evidence for this, or are you just making stuff up again? On what? Both were openly discussed and commonly reported in the Specter era. It was common practice to internationally lag to get your Specter's stealth jump to last longer. There were tons and tons of reports of this from players that would jump at the same time as a red specter, the read one would float in the air making the blue player land and end stealth 1st then kill the blue player before its stealth wore off. International lagging was confirmed in these thread as a tactic that was employed by people actually doing it There was also the common tactic of cycling the wifi connection or router during a stealth jump to get the Specter to get stuck in permanent stealth. There were numerous examples of this being wide spread and patches had to be put out to stop it. I see the intentional lagging with Ao Jun all the time. The bot will hover in the air in stealth before landing and will lag teleport across the sky making it difficult to hit while it has no problems taking out bots withe dual Avengers and built in auto flame thrower. The bot benifits heavily from a little bit of lag and we KNOW this tactic has been employed on purpose in the past. Please provide one confirmed example of this ‘international lagging’; if the problem was patched, how is it relevant now? What you describe sounds more like lag on your own device, ie failing to register the change in the red’s state.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 11, 2020 11:50:31 GMT -5
On what? Both were openly discussed and commonly reported in the Specter era. It was common practice to internationally lag to get your Specter's stealth jump to last longer. There were tons and tons of reports of this from players that would jump at the same time as a red specter, the read one would float in the air making the blue player land and end stealth 1st then kill the blue player before its stealth wore off. International lagging was confirmed in these thread as a tactic that was employed by people actually doing it There was also the common tactic of cycling the wifi connection or router during a stealth jump to get the Specter to get stuck in permanent stealth. There were numerous examples of this being wide spread and patches had to be put out to stop it. I see the intentional lagging with Ao Jun all the time. The bot will hover in the air in stealth before landing and will lag teleport across the sky making it difficult to hit while it has no problems taking out bots withe dual Avengers and built in auto flame thrower. The bot benifits heavily from a little bit of lag and we KNOW this tactic has been employed on purpose in the past. Please provide one confirmed example of this ‘international lagging’; if the problem was patched, how is it relevant now? What you describe sounds more like lag on your own device, ie failing to register the change in the red’s state. The getting a bot stuck in stealth mods happened on more than one occasion. Pix would fix it with a patch but then reintroduce the same problem in a later update and players would exploit it again. I believe it was acidently discovered by players messing with their connection to produce slight lag. We had confirmation of intentional lag either on the forum or somewhere else of a player stating that this was common practice and talked about in their discord. If the stay in stealth exploit really was back I would think we would see it more frequently than the handful of times it has been reported here with Ao Jun. It possible that it is back and Ao Jun pilots are unable to expoit it as efficiently as the old Specter pilots or that is it much more difficult to reproduce with Ao Jun.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 14:11:03 GMT -5
Please provide one confirmed example of this ‘international lagging’; if the problem was patched, how is it relevant now? What you describe sounds more like lag on your own device, ie failing to register the change in the red’s state. The getting a bot stuck in stealth mods happened on more than one occasion. Pix would fix it with a patch but then reintroduce the same problem in a later update and players would exploit it again. I believe it was acidently discovered by players messing with their connection to produce slight lag. We had confirmation of intentional lag either on the forum or somewhere else of a player stating that this was common practice and talked about in their discord. If the stay in stealth exploit really was back I would think we would see it more frequently than the handful of times it has been reported here with Ao Jun. It possible that it is back and Ao Jun pilots are unable to expoit it as efficiently as the old Specter pilots or that is it much more difficult to reproduce with Ao Jun. So you have no actual proof? Just a bit of ‘he-said she-said’ you think you half remember but can’t actually link to? Is that why you’re now back-tracking on your statements about the Ao Jun?
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Post by bunnyhoppingrailgun on Jul 11, 2020 15:44:02 GMT -5
I reported a player doing this. Video is on YouTube.
Full stealth and flame ability while walking around till death. He did same thing with second Jun. No flight, just immediate stealth on the ground.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 11, 2020 16:51:48 GMT -5
The getting a bot stuck in stealth mods happened on more than one occasion. Pix would fix it with a patch but then reintroduce the same problem in a later update and players would exploit it again. I believe it was acidently discovered by players messing with their connection to produce slight lag. We had confirmation of intentional lag either on the forum or somewhere else of a player stating that this was common practice and talked about in their discord. If the stay in stealth exploit really was back I would think we would see it more frequently than the handful of times it has been reported here with Ao Jun. It possible that it is back and Ao Jun pilots are unable to expoit it as efficiently as the old Specter pilots or that is it much more difficult to reproduce with Ao Jun. So you have no actual proof? Just a bit of ‘he-said she-said’ you think you half remember but can’t actually link to? Is that why you’re now back-tracking on your statements about the Ao Jun? Naw I'm good. I'm not digging anything up and taking screen shots. You can white knight for the Ao Jun all you like. I'm great with that
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Post by bayscout on Jul 11, 2020 17:14:28 GMT -5
This is one of MANY known bugs that have been reported to Pix. This is kind of similar to the old bug where Inky would get caught on something and end up staying in infinite stealth. The lack of give a 「dookie」 with this update from Pix is starteling...nearly everything is bugged somehow.
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Post by nexushub on Jul 11, 2020 20:04:50 GMT -5
I did this in my Ao Jun yesterday, my connection froze while i was flying and when my connection came back i was walking around on the ground stuck in stealth mode with my flame throwing active, i belive i single handedly won us the game because of this bug, i couldn't turn off the ability and it wouldn't let me change bots, i also reported this bug to pixonic because i figured out how to reproduce this bug at will.
But somehow i dont think they care, it took them like 3 years to fix the Leo's bug.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 11, 2020 20:06:40 GMT -5
I did this in my Ao Jun yesterday, my connection froze while i was flying and when my connection came back i was walking around on the ground stuck in stealth mode with my flame throwing active, i belive i single handedly won us the game because of this bug, i couldn't turn off the ability and it wouldn't let me change bots, i also reported this bug to pixonic because i figured out how to reproduce this bug at will. But somehow i dont think they care, it took them like 3 years to fix the Leo's bug. If it becomes rampant then they will hot fix it like the last 2 or 3 times.
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Post by hi5 on Jul 12, 2020 9:21:18 GMT -5
The old cycle the router to get stuck in stealth bug. Stealth bot pilots are the worst. A lot of them intentionally lag to make their stealth last longer by appearing to hover in stealth to the other players or to lag teleport across the sky in an Ao Jun making them near impossible be to hit even with Quantum Radar. Do you have ANY evidence for this, or are you just making stuff up again? I’ve seen this many times but don’t have it documented. Just today had a Nightingale fly into center at Yam, land frozen but still in stealth to prevent a blue beacon cap, then miraculously unfreeze just when the flight ability came back. My Quantum Radar had just recharged so I lit that cheater up good. Connection exploit is real and goes back at least a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 12:59:02 GMT -5
Do you have ANY evidence for this, or are you just making stuff up again? I’ve seen this many times but don’t have it documented. Just today had a Nightingale fly into center at Yam, land frozen but still in stealth to prevent a blue beacon cap, then miraculously unfreeze just when the flight ability came back. My Quantum Radar had just recharged so I lit that cheater up good. Connection exploit is real and goes back at least a few years. Yes, so it’s a fault that affects all bots, so there’s no reason to single out non-legacy bots as other posters have done.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 12, 2020 15:24:12 GMT -5
I’ve seen this many times but don’t have it documented. Just today had a Nightingale fly into center at Yam, land frozen but still in stealth to prevent a blue beacon cap, then miraculously unfreeze just when the flight ability came back. My Quantum Radar had just recharged so I lit that cheater up good. Connection exploit is real and goes back at least a few years. Yes, so it’s a fault that affects all bots, so there’s no reason to single out non-legacy bots as other posters have done. Yeah it's not fair to single out Specters and Ao Juns because Natahas and Lancelots get stuck in infinite stealth too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 17:25:13 GMT -5
Yes, so it’s a fault that affects all bots, so there’s no reason to single out non-legacy bots as other posters have done. Yeah it's not fair to single out Specters and Ao Juns because Natahas and Lancelots get stuck in infinite stealth too. It’s your choice to run incapable legacy bots and hide in lower leagues. Singling out and criticising particular meta or old meta bots because they are susceptible to a game wide bug, whereas your old junk isn’t, just reveals your self interest and undermines your credibility.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 13, 2020 0:19:47 GMT -5
Yeah it's not fair to single out Specters and Ao Juns because Natahas and Lancelots get stuck in infinite stealth too. It’s your choice to run incapable legacy bots and hide in lower leagues. Singling out and criticising particular meta or old meta bots because they are susceptible to a game wide bug, whereas your old junk isn’t, just reveals your self interest and undermines your credibility. Your mental gymnastics have been greatly amusing. Thank you.
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Post by ismsean on Jul 13, 2020 8:21:26 GMT -5
Glad there is a post regarding this. No flame, but infinite stealth. At first I thought it was one of glitches while attempting to land, but after a minute or so, had to trap him with Fen so flame could do its thing.
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