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Post by CravenSouls on May 15, 2020 11:56:22 GMT -5
I tend to naturally be drawn to this kind of weapon. Im a short range brawler and I love the rockets. Ive always had Orkans or Shotguns.
I have Cryos on 4 of my 5 bots in my main hangar. Thoughts on how many is too many?
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on May 15, 2020 12:00:04 GMT -5
Well, over abundance will cause issues when the nerf comes
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Post by CrownBlack on May 15, 2020 12:04:16 GMT -5
I tend to naturally be drawn to this kind of weapon. Im a short range brawler and I love the rockets. Ive always had Orkans or Shotguns. I have Cryos on 4 of my 5 bots in my main hangar. Thoughts on how many is too many? i have 3 on a ravana and two on a Ao Jun. That is all i am using only because i know a nerf will come and i wont be that badly hurt when it happens at some point. I have 2 glaciers on ice but do not plan on leveling
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Post by Loganspawn on May 15, 2020 12:08:04 GMT -5
My answer is however many you can handle without breaking your phone and cussing when the nerf hits. Myself I have 5 Mediums leveled and may do another couple. Most weapons I stop at 4 maxed nowadays and bots I will only max 2 at the most.
Not rich enough to replace everything when a nerf comes but also want to compete in high level champ play in S squads. Its a tough balance many go overboard (Spending RM they don't have to blow) then within a few meta changes they are here on the forum trash talking bla bla bla and crying about nerfs. eventually many leave....... Funny when they could kill everyone in two seconds because they had maxed cool toys before others that was OK.
Spend what you can on resources to keep YOU enjoying the game is the best advice I can truly think of.
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Post by CravenSouls on May 15, 2020 12:27:28 GMT -5
Well, over abundance will cause issues when the nerf comes Eventually everything is replaced. This is why I limit most things to level 1.9. Older weapons I have taken higher like my lvl 1.10 Storms, Vipers, and Pulsars.
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Post by Koalabear on May 15, 2020 12:32:53 GMT -5
I have 3 Cryo (only 2 are leveled and they sit on my Phantoms). When I start playing my Ravana seriously, I'll upgrade my 3rd Cryo and move the 2 from my Phantoms over and sub in Orkans for them. I can't be bothered to build more Cryos than that since on the Phantom, Orkan/Rime works just as well as Cryo/Rime, and my Orkans are already at L10 so do more damage per rocket then my Cryos at L9.
Other than that, I have Glacier/Rime on my Mercury, and when I finish my second free Glacier, I'm planning on sticking that on my Falcon with Exodus on the wings. I've been playing with the idea of running Glacier Ao Jun, but don't really see the point as I don't think it'll be that different than Exodus Ao Jun which I used to run and abandoned in favour of Redeemers and Vipers.
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Post by Munki on May 15, 2020 12:51:56 GMT -5
Well the Glaciers give the most bang for the Ag cost and most likely do not have to level as many as the Cryo or Rime weapons. I have several but nothing at a high level (like 1.7 or 1.8). Two Glaciers brought to MK2 could be worth it on an Ao Jun. They are expensive to upgrade though!
Since you limit your upgrading to 1.9, then really there is no worry to running as many of these as you have.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 15, 2020 16:30:10 GMT -5
Well, over abundance will cause issues when the nerf comes Diversify weapons to mitigate nerf hammer risk. I don’t have a preset limit, but I’ve never maxed more than 4 of anything.
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Post by aaronc on May 15, 2020 17:34:06 GMT -5
More than you have wrapon slots to equip them? Im not on premium and find the time the cryos take to upgrade sooooo long.
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Post by OU812? on May 15, 2020 17:41:29 GMT -5
What level is necessary to make the different cryos weapons effective?
Does level 9 work for most or do you have to get higher?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 18:02:01 GMT -5
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Post by Old-Cat on May 15, 2020 18:03:11 GMT -5
Well, over abundance will cause issues when the nerf comes Diversify weapons to mitigate nerf hammer risk. I don’t have a preset limit, but I’ve never maxed more than 4 of anything. This is exactly what I do.
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Post by Overlordship on May 15, 2020 20:38:30 GMT -5
Well, over abundance will cause issues when the nerf comes The preferred term is “balance”.
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Post by Shockwave on May 15, 2020 20:50:03 GMT -5
Hopefully they will be nerfed soon.
I'm tired of Phantom releasing a barrage of missiles and vanish without any penalty.
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Post by BB on May 15, 2020 21:07:40 GMT -5
Ask my two dozen MK2 shotguns collecting dust in my hangar right now ?
Ive stopped at 2 Glacier, 2 Cryo, 6 Rimes
Time for the NEW shotguns now...
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 21:13:46 GMT -5
I'm trying a soft limit of 4x of each weapon.
It lets me upgrade and use many other weapon types.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 0:16:58 GMT -5
Well I’ve got 6 Rimes, a Cryo, and a pair of Glaciers levelled, and another 2 Rimes, 5 Cryos, and 3 more Glaciers in the spares bin that I probably won’t bother with. That might be too many, but they’re all ‘free’ from events etc. I’m already building Shredders to replace a couple of Rimes just in case.
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Post by milty72 on May 16, 2020 1:10:52 GMT -5
I'm trying a soft limit of 4x of each weapon. It lets me upgrade and use many other weapon types. I try to do the same but when Pix gives you Rimes what's a man to do. I got 6 and that's my limit. I'm getting a feeling they are gonna give me more scourges though and I've got 4 already.
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Post by Grrrega on May 16, 2020 1:14:55 GMT -5
Currently I wouldn't mind all 5 of my bots with Cryos. Knowing Pix, two bots with Cryos is a reasonable max for me.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on May 16, 2020 1:19:10 GMT -5
I have 2 cryos, gonna make another, I will soon have the glacier and I have 2 rimes (although I may get another if I hit 40 on the ops). Too many is anything over 20. You can have 5 bots with 4 medium slots so the most you could possibly use is 20.
Anything below that is just preference, availability and usefulness.
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Post by AVC on May 16, 2020 1:48:37 GMT -5
Does the OP means Cryos proper, or freeze rockets in general?
Either way, I've looked at the numbers on these things.
The Rime is basically an Orkan with freeze. Except more powerful than the Ork was. I am levelling 4 on the Blitz and it they are impressive even averaging level 4.
The Cryo does nearly as much damage as the Taran, but in half the time. Or about 85% of the damage of an Exodus, but with freeze.
The Glacier is even more. 4 times a Dragoon, more than a Redeemer, and nearly 90% of an Ember in half the time, with freeze and 50m less range.
Give it a year or so and these new Freeze Rockets with be replaced by the even more powerful Burn Rockets, that set your bot on fire and blind you with the smoke. Mark my words.
After checking the damage outputs, I seriously need to replace my Exodus/Orkan Inquisitor. It's like a one shot bot nowadays. And the Orkans are about as useful as feather dusters
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Post by schrotter on May 16, 2020 2:29:35 GMT -5
When you get bored of 300m ambush tactics then you likely have to many and should probably switch up your hangar ?.
I am sitting on a stash of 2 glaciers, 3 cryos, and 5 rimes. Yet I am only using 3 rimes at the moment. I switched my Phantom from freeze rockets to BBQ just for the fun of it. Damage is lower and the bot doesn’t survive as long, but the sheer joy of running a crazy inyourface pyromaniac right now outweighs my need to max out the damage spec.
Also I have this secret yet futile hope that running less cryo weapons might postpone the inevitable nerf Pixo holds in stock for when we are all properly invested.
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Post by Grrrega on May 16, 2020 2:57:51 GMT -5
Give it a year or so and these new Freeze Rockets with be replaced by the even more powerful Burn Rockets, that set your bot on fire and blind you with the smoke. Mark my words. Noooo don't give them ideas!
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Post by Browncoats4ever on May 16, 2020 4:27:12 GMT -5
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Post by RightOn on May 16, 2020 7:23:03 GMT -5
More than 2 similar builds in 1 hangar is too many.
I have 25 different bots in 5 hangars right? Well sometimes I do have a hangar 'theme' like this one might have more flamers or this might have long range etc. I don't have an entire fleet doin the same trick tho.
BTW phone typing sucks 「bum-bum」
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Post by Loganspawn on May 18, 2020 9:30:49 GMT -5
Hopefully they will be nerfed soon. I'm tired of Phantom releasing a barrage of missiles and vanish without any penalty. You are going to love Scorpion then..... NOT At least the Phantom you can see coming.
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Post by reckless1 on May 18, 2020 10:05:51 GMT -5
I have three cryo and two rimes. They nerfed the shotguns even harder than usual and I’m guessing that will be the new norm. Meta gets nerfed into uselessness in one step. The days of the gradual nerf appear to be over.
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