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Post by moody on Mar 20, 2017 23:18:01 GMT -5
My own clan seems to be in two minds about the idea. Mostly negative.
What's the opinon of putting a single ancille popper on a DB Griffin? Proposed idea would be to corner shoot the ancille to bring it down before unleashing the orkans (+ single pinata).
How does it compare to aphids for taking out ancilles?
Knowing that the usage will be limited and most of the time it will be a slightly weaker DB griffin.
I do like the idea of only having one button or the big red button.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Mar 20, 2017 23:48:55 GMT -5
I use an Orkan/Punisher Griffin and it will completely remove an Ancile --- just fire them separetly with a 5-7 second delay if you are noticing lag. Its easy to get them to level 10 or level 11 too --- tremendous bang for the buck. You can try quad Punisher Griffs, but I found the Orkans gave better outcomes once the distances got under 200m.
A single Punisher won't work. You'll need to have both Punishers to zero out AND maintain the regen at zero.
Use the dual Punishers at stand off distances to knifers (350+ meters) and you'll bleed off enough HP to get closer to that 80-90K limit that your level 11 or level 12 dual Orks can dish out ---- and then either jump in an cripple/kill them or retreat to let them taste another salvo of Punishers.
You won't see dual Mags, Aphids, or Pinatas the same way after using dual light Punishers. I thank the Ancilot for making me try the Punishers and the gun buff just made the choice easier to make. This combo makes Springfield/Yamantau enjoyable, as I can fight knifer and mid-rangers with just a jump (or two) --- you won't get that sick feeling that you are motoring a long way in a knifer (and the Orkan/Punisher Griff is a true knifer) just to enter a meat grinder of red MRS or Ancilots.
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Post by Heishiro on Mar 21, 2017 0:33:37 GMT -5
why not molots?
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Post by moody on Mar 21, 2017 1:15:47 GMT -5
I gather that at orkan appropriate ranges that molots wouldn't take them down as quickly?
I can try both.
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Post by Tatamat on Mar 21, 2017 2:21:05 GMT -5
Don't use Rhino so far, but doesn't it suit better for this task? You have to stay exposed with Punishers, so at least you're shielded until you get Ancile down...
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Post by moody on Mar 21, 2017 2:47:55 GMT -5
I hate rhino for magnums and think i would have similar issues with punishers. But it might be a go against taran ancilot specifically.
All rock paper scissory.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Mar 21, 2017 8:16:59 GMT -5
Dual Molots can't zero out any full strength Ancile or internal energy shield and they can't bleed off physical shield HP enough to cause a BritBot to change its course or take cover. This means the Orkan/Molot Griffin cannot directly take on the same bots that the Orkan/Punisher Griffin and that's it's playing tactics are completely different. I can go solo (without blue support) in an Ork/Pun Griff, but I can't with an Ork/Molot Griff. That doesn't make the Molots useless, it just means that you have to target different bots and that you have to run the Ork/Molot in a clear support/team manner (something that almost all randoms and clans that don't use comms don't do very well). Bottom line is that I also run an Orkan/Molot Griff along with my Orkan/Punisher Griff --- this is my answer to Ancilots and the fact that I play all maps as a random. If I was squading as a norm, I'd most likely not run an Orkan/Molot Griff, as a full Molot Griff or a Fury are better choice. I would keep the Orkan/Punisher Griff even if squading. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 21, 2017 8:28:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight, T.A.S. This mirrors the experience with 2x Puns and an Ork on my gala... I obviously can't kill as quick in it... but up close those Puns are nasty... and even pre-Buff I took a post-ancile buff, pre-ancile regen nerf fujin's shield down with just 2 level 9s. The orks plus the Puns took it out pretty quickly after. The Galahad shield works better for Puns, as you can stand a bit of sustained fire in the open, but it deffo won't kill the big boys as easily. It is better as a support bot than a solo killer, unless you play very guerilla-type tactics. Which was what I was forced to do a few times. however, it's a good combo, Puns and Orks.
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