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Post by MΞCHДИISΓIC on Jan 18, 2020 14:10:52 GMT -5
I just returned after 1.5 years. When I left I was well into champ league. Getting owned now, but thankfully dropped back into masters so the fights are Fun again.
I have 2 questions/-
1) my favorite bot before I left was orkan haechi. I have learned quickly that orkans aren’t what they used to be. With lockdown etc, I get smoked ALOT. Is this bot worth fielding anymore and if so, what should I replace orkans with?
2) my shocktrain Spectre used to be awesome midrange. The shocktrains also aren’t what they used to be (which is probably good). What is a fun, deadly midrange to replace this guy with?
Thanks in advance for advice guys!
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Post by leecher123 on Jan 18, 2020 14:24:42 GMT -5
Brawler: storm / corona Leech.
Mid range: lots of choices, but Avenger Ao Jun will do.
Beacon capper: this little pesty unkillable thing called Halo Phantom.
Those 3 are top meta bot atm in champ.
If you don’t chase meta, then a lot of choices actually opens up. I like Rayker with the constant suppression, T falcon is one tough SOB to kill and excellent tank, strider is very fun too as an opener to cap center (just make sure you have phase shift), etc. Oh, Fenrir is another very good tank with more fire power than T falcon, but a bit less tanky.
Have fun...
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 18, 2020 14:35:29 GMT -5
I don’t see a lot of Haechi in Champions League, mainly because of Phantoms and Leeches, but I have encountered tough Haechis. However, here are a couple observations.
- most Phantoms are used as first bot for beacons
- because of titans, which have Damage Mitigation (that ignores robots with damage resistance like Phantom and Leech), come out mid-late match, it is not advisable to drop those two mechs late game, and people are wising up to that.
So, if those two are dangerous to Haechi and are generally used early match, then Haechi is for mid-late match.
If you do run Haechi, you should get the legendary pilot for Haechi, equip relevant skills for optimal performance, and equip good modules like Heavy Armor Kits, Last Stand, and Phase Shift or Advance Repair Unit. The more durable your bot and the stronger your energy shield, the better you’ll do.
For weapons, three Storm, three Corona, or three Cryo will do great. If you wanna use it as a midranger, try for three Pulsars
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 14:39:55 GMT -5
Workshop an Ao Jun now. Avengers reck on the thing...That build can do many roles, and counter most everything.....
The jury is still out on Titans, although many here are saving up until Pix releases the next Titan(s)......Takes a long time to horde the free Platinum(Pt).....
After that, read here, ask questions, decide if you will spend or not......then go from there!
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Post by hi5 on Jan 18, 2020 14:42:09 GMT -5
I was still running an Ork Haechi as of a few weeks ago but yeah Orks suck now - my only MK2 and canât run them. The freeze weapons are now top splash for brawler and 3 cryo would give that bot some life but costly and Haechi is vulnerable to all the energy and lockdown out there. Could try scourge if you gotâem or storm/corona - but might want to invest in newer bots rather than stick with the Haechi.
If you like the dash style, strider is a fun skill bot and can pack a punch with LD shotties or ember/rime - my personal favorite bot/build ATM.
ST are done except when fully maxed and then just for 「dookie」s and giggles. Spec isnât very good BUT with some pilot skills and costly weapons it can work (ions, scourge, vortex). Leech packs 4 mediums so again might be better to invest in new bot vs level new weapons for spec.
Also modules and pilots are pretty much required for top play so if you donât have those might be worth the research.
Welcome back and happy hunting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 14:54:13 GMT -5
This is my hangar....second hangar is sometimes used as fun runs with legacy bots.... Ive been playing since around the time you quit, and now sport..........  My style is up close and personal, and I play solo only for fun only...I’m not a pro nor meta chaser/dreamer. When Pix dropped the “god” bots on us, Ares became king of the hill, with that purple shield that nothing hurts or takes down, and supercharger “extra” built in laser weapons. All meta since have been crazy magic, yet they all also require a team to shine....so, solo those bots tend to fail due to random players being not the best players around, usually. Anyways, best of luck, and check in, let us know what up! |
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Post by alphaomega001 on Jan 18, 2020 17:20:21 GMT -5
Is this the same person from the other day ...Just changing it up some lol.My advice DON’T return.Come back in another year lmao ?
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Jan 18, 2020 17:45:44 GMT -5
I just returned after 1.5 years. When I left I was well into champ league. Getting owned now, but thankfully dropped back into masters so the fights are Fun again. I have 2 questions/- 1) my favorite bot before I left was orkan haechi. I have learned quickly that orkans aren’t what they used to be. With lockdown etc, I get smoked ALOT. Is this bot worth fielding anymore and if so, what should I replace orkans with? 2) my shocktrain Spectre used to be awesome midrange. The shocktrains also aren’t what they used to be (which is probably good). What is a fun, deadly midrange to replace this guy with? Thanks in advance for advice guys! If you are looking fot a solid midrange setup instadeath option for your Spectre, consider Ions. 100 more meter range than Shocktrains, more damage per cycle than Shocktrains, faster reload than Shocktrains, and cheaper to level than Shocktrains. Put shieldbreaker module on that beast and ruin some Ares day! Want to be even more effective? Mount those same Ions on a Leech. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 18, 2020 18:01:03 GMT -5
Spectre is still solid, but a Scourge build would do a lot better if you have 4 of those on hand. As others have said, Avenger Ao Jun is probably the first thing to get into the line up, but these days you'll want more than one mid-ranger (you just want that mid-ranger to be able to brawl in close as well). That's why tasers (Spark and Scourge in particular) are so popular now (also they are good for coping with Phantom's tiny hit box and taking down AJs in flight when paired with Quantum Radar). Otherwise it's all about lockdown/slowdown weapons with high burst damage (Halo/Corona/Glory and Rime/Cryo/Glacier). The two other big meta weapons right now are in the cheap but high damage categories and those are Avengers and Storms. Basically it's all about coping with how fast meta bots can close the gap and the small time windows to take them down. Obviously lockdown/slowdown/tasers are expensive to make and upgrade but you can maybe substitute in some older weapons that work along these principles. Punisher-Ts and Gusts are not as effective as Avengers/Storms but can fill in alright and Embers are solid if you have any of those lying around.
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Post by vin5240 on Jan 18, 2020 18:11:24 GMT -5
I was going to ask this myself lol. I am also a returning player. I quit around summer of 2018 my current setup is still what I had from before:
Taran bulg
scourge bulg
shocktrain bulg
orkan haechi
taran ember inquisitor
Looking at current meta, idk if I can catch up because i'm f2p for the most part. I think I spent like $50 before. I see a lot of corona leeches and so many new things. This one bot killed my full mk2 bulg with almost no hp left somehow and still survived while i was shooting at him point blank.
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 18, 2020 18:39:25 GMT -5
I was going to ask this myself lol. I am also a returning player. I quit around summer of 2018 my current setup is still what I had from before: Taran bulg scourge bulg shocktrain bulg orkan haechi taran ember inquisitor Looking at current meta, idk if I can catch up because i'm f2p for the most part. I think I spent like $50 before. I see a lot of corona leeches and so many new things. This one bot killed my full mk2 bulg with almost no hp left somehow and still survived while i was shooting at him point blank. Inquisitor isn't close to meta but it has held up a bit better than many of its peers. A well-levelled Taran-Redeemer Inqy in particular isn't bad because they've buffed the heck out of the Redeemer. Scourge is meta - you can try alternating those between the Bulga and the Haechi to see which works better for now. Do you have any other older bots? Strider? Spectre? Mercury? Pursuer? Lancelot is also still effective with the Ghost pilot skill (increased speed but no Rush ability). Some people are getting decent mileage out of well-levelled Rogatkas paired with Wonderworker pilot skill (7.5% healing per jump) or maybe Ghost (but then can't jump). Ember is good, especially against Arthur Titans. Tarans aren't so much anymore due to a nerf, but are still viable. Orkans are garbage now I'm afraid. Good news is they got the Lunar New Year even coming and Gold Chest seems to be handing out weapons more these days, so some good chances to get free gear. And again, Ao Jun is the first new bot I'd build in the workshop. It's the great equalizer right now, as it so OP, easy to use, (and with Avengers cheap to equip) that you can last quite a while playing just one. So it can help anchor your hangar for a while as you sort out your other gear. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 19:01:12 GMT -5
I was going to ask this myself lol. I am also a returning player. I quit around summer of 2018 my current setup is still what I had from before: Taran bulg scourge bulg shocktrain bulg orkan haechi taran ember inquisitor Looking at current meta, idk if I can catch up because i'm f2p for the most part. I think I spent like $50 before. I see a lot of corona leeches and so many new things. This one bot killed my full mk2 bulg with almost no hp left somehow and still survived while i was shooting at him point blank. Your first two Bulgs are still potentially very strong - especially if you have remembered how to shoot around the shied - Shocktrains are less good, but *probably* still work a bit. I'd scrap the Haechi immediately (lots of energy weapons around now) along with the Orkans, but the Quiz probably has legs, especially if he has old economy gear on him. You can swap him out for a Ghost Lance (do you have a regular one lying around?) or a Fenrir if you are feeling flush. Welcome back! |
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Post by vin5240 on Jan 18, 2020 19:47:53 GMT -5
@balasus S1E1 Thanks for the great tip both of you! Will definitely follow the advice. I came back in champions and I've already been pushed to masters xD. I was never able to get my hands on any of the newer bot after the dash bots came out. What is a ghost lance? I did max out a regular lance way back. Right now my robots get shredded like paper even though they are max mk2. Those purple pulse weapons are op. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 18, 2020 20:07:41 GMT -5
@balasus S1E1 Thanks for the great tip both of you! Will definitely follow the advice. I came back in champions and I've already been pushed to masters xD. I was never able to get my hands on any of the newer bot after the dash bots came out. What is a ghost lance? I did max out a regular lance way back. Right now my robots get shredded like paper even though they are max mk2. Those purple pulse weapons are op. Ghost is a pilot skill available for certain bots, of which Lancelot is one. If you select it, you can't use the bot's ability anymore, but you get a major speed boost. For Lancelot that has no downside because its ability is Rush and Ghost boosts its speed permanently more than the temporary boost you get from Rush. And if you add on the Road Hog skill after that, it'll move even faster. Honestly a maxed Lance with that skill will probably be the strongest bot of those you listed in your hangar. Don't worry about dropping down to Masters. You're probably going to have to adjust how you play your bots against the new meta, but not a big deal. A lot of Champs games are pretty annoying anyway - just all Leeches Phase Shifting, so dropping to a league that fits your hangar better probably will be a bit more fun tbh. |
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Post by vin5240 on Jan 18, 2020 20:22:26 GMT -5
@balasus S1E1 Thanks for the great tip both of you! Will definitely follow the advice. I came back in champions and I've already been pushed to masters xD. I was never able to get my hands on any of the newer bot after the dash bots came out. What is a ghost lance? I did max out a regular lance way back. Right now my robots get shredded like paper even though they are max mk2. Those purple pulse weapons are op. Ghost is a pilot skill available for certain bots, of which Lancelot is one. If you select it, you can't use the bot's ability anymore, but you get a major speed boost. For Lancelot that has no downside because its ability is Rush and Ghost boosts its speed permanently more than the temporary boost you get from Rush. And if you add on the Road Hog skill after that, it'll move even faster. Honestly a maxed Lance with that skill will probably be the strongest bot of those you listed in your hangar. Don't worry about dropping down to Masters. You're probably going to have to adjust how you play your bots against the new meta, but not a big deal. A lot of Champs games are pretty annoying anyway - just all Leeches Phase Shifting, so dropping to a league that fits your hangar better probably will be a bit more fun tbh. What do you recommend for a fun build that can still do pretty good against the meta? I'm not the type the guy that wud run 4 corona leeches like many champion league ppl i see. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 18, 2020 20:36:04 GMT -5
Ghost is a pilot skill available for certain bots, of which Lancelot is one. If you select it, you can't use the bot's ability anymore, but you get a major speed boost. For Lancelot that has no downside because its ability is Rush and Ghost boosts its speed permanently more than the temporary boost you get from Rush. And if you add on the Road Hog skill after that, it'll move even faster. Honestly a maxed Lance with that skill will probably be the strongest bot of those you listed in your hangar. Don't worry about dropping down to Masters. You're probably going to have to adjust how you play your bots against the new meta, but not a big deal. A lot of Champs games are pretty annoying anyway - just all Leeches Phase Shifting, so dropping to a league that fits your hangar better probably will be a bit more fun tbh. What do you recommend for a fun build that can still do pretty good against the meta? I'm not the type the guy that wud run 4 corona leeches like many champion league ppl i see. Personally I think Strider is the most fun meta-counter, especially Spark-Calamity. I run 2 Striders myself and it had a pretty hardcore fan club here on the forum (see the "Strictly Striders" thread). I haven't gotten to play Phantom yet myself but a lot of people seem to enjoy it and of course it is meta so will probably be top of the heap for some time to come. Ao Jun is due for a nerf soon and it is ridiculously OP meta, but once you get Road Hog on it and some good weapons, I have found it to be pretty fun to play. You can just hop across the map and flank folks so easily. You could create a thread and elicit suggestions from folks before you build anything. Leech is actually not that fun to play imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:54:45 GMT -5
Do you have a Hover?
I'm still using the Hover, and it was built 1.5 year ago. It's an awesome bot. Skill bot for sure. Those ?fluffernutter?ers nerfed my hover, so it's a bit harder to aim. Or can't even aim sometimes. They don't want any skill in the game.
I expect the Hover to be the only bot that i will use 2 years from now, if i'm still playing it. High Ground is OP. Look into it.
If ya get a meta bot, look for it to be hard counter and nerfed. How to know? If it's stupid easy to use, has PTW button, then expect Hard Counter.
Hover is dog ?dookie? when it first came out, laughed at, etc. But I'd take my Hover over Orkechi or Bulgasari. So tell me now, which bot is better if the Hover is still awesome in mid-champs. And the Haechi is kick to the curb useless POS.
If that's the reason why you left, then consider a skill bot. Hover is one. Those ?fluffernutter?ers don't like it, tried to nerf, but still give it a go. Get of the merrry go round hamster wheel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:18:40 GMT -5
I just returned after 1.5 years. When I left I was well into champ league. Getting owned now, but thankfully dropped back into masters so the fights are Fun again. I have 2 questions/- 1) my favorite bot before I left was orkan haechi. I have learned quickly that orkans aren’t what they used to be. With lockdown etc, I get smoked ALOT. Is this bot worth fielding anymore and if so, what should I replace orkans with? 2) my shocktrain Spectre used to be awesome midrange. The shocktrains also aren’t what they used to be (which is probably good). What is a fun, deadly midrange to replace this guy with? Thanks in advance for advice guys! 1. To answer your questions. No, get rid of it. No wep will make it even halfway decent. Orkans are even more useless than Haechi. Get a Hover or meta bot. Up to you really. 2. In genearl, mid range is dead. And shocktrain went obsolete, bots have upward of 1M HP that's why. Same reason orks died out. TT Fury and Zeus are both no good. Better to use weps like scourge or Avengers if ya need a bit range, but they aren't true mid-range weps. The mid range role if there is one, it goes to the flying dragon Titan with Titan sized versions of the Dragoon. I don't know when you exactly left, but if you have the typical hanger from that time period. Then all your bots AND weps are basically obsolete. So you pretty much have to start your entire hanger over. Only thing worth keeping are a set of PDB weps, but they aren't even that good anymore or common. And remember all those useless Storms and Gusts?, well they are the brawling wep of choice. Plus the E-Shotty versions (Corona and Halo). But with the Titan release, I feel even the Shotty is not as good anymore, so be warned. Here's a quick rundown of my old hanger from 1.5 year ago. Orkan Heachi - gone Taran Bulgasari - gone Ember Taran Inky - gone PDB Hover - Only bot still use, now MK2. Yes keep the bot, and one set of Tarans. TT Fury - gone Ork Spec - gone. But i've seen Pulsar Spec and Storm/Corona Spec do well. Oddly, if you have a Lancelot, use that as a Tank and it can be just as tough as today's nimble speed running tanks. Just stay away from fire, and replace the Ancile with a Redeemer, Ember, or Viper. Not too many rockets nowadays, and the physical shield got a decent buff. If you want to use any old bot, then they have to be used as range to keep them alive. But bots are so fast like the flying Ao Jun (Ao Jun) and Phantom, they will rip any mid-range to pieces. That's why mid range is dead in champs. Any meta bots after you left, they are still good even if they are no longer top dog. Meta bots after u left in order : (after Spec) Mercury/Mender Invader Ares/Hades Ao Jun Fenrir/Loki Phantom/Leech (current) Other than that, TFalc and Falc are also good. TFalc is the best Tank (Falcon with Traditionalist Pilot Skill). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:42:42 GMT -5
I was going to ask this myself lol. I am also a returning player. I quit around summer of 2018 my current setup is still what I had from before: Taran bulg scourge bulg shocktrain bulg orkan haechi taran ember inquisitor Looking at current meta, idk if I can catch up because i'm f2p for the most part. I think I spent like $50 before. I see a lot of corona leeches and so many new things. This one bot killed my full mk2 bulg with almost no hp left somehow and still survived while i was shooting at him point blank. Yea, read my post. It applies to anyone from that time period. You could keep the first 2 Bulgasari builds. It works, but not the best or even second best. As you probably found out, so many builds delete that paper thin shield, and they just buffed the shield like 1 month ago. Ember Inky could have a role to counter the Arthur Titan and other shield bots. Just need to get matching flame weps, i think Ignitor. But the bot itself is easy to counter, even while stealthed. And Quantum Radar will make you visible. Not the best, but it works. Replace the Shocktrain bulgasari first. So many choices. Replace 1 bot at a time to keep up. That's how free players like me have been doing it the last 4 years. Always a mix of old, new, and not so new bots in my hanger. Orkan Haechi would be 2nd to get the boot from your hanger. Keep as a placeholder. Now, if you go with the newest meta, i've seen a hanger full of L8 meta gear perform as well as a Mk1 L12 old hanger like mine. Yea, my hanger is already old even though everything is newer than your hanger. Try to not double up on any bots or weps. To prevent nerfs and meta shifts, that will leave you with a useless hanger. Go with 1 meta bot from each "generation" or era. Go for 1 dragon bot, 1 Viking bot, 1 current meta bot. So i dunno, go for 1 Hades, 1 Ao Jun, 1 Fenrir, 1 Phantom. Or 1 Ares, 1 Ao Jun, 1 Tyr, 1 Leech. Etc. Just pick 1. They mostly all good from the past 4-5 eras. Same with weps. New ones are Vipers and Cyro class. Shotties are also popular, Storm/Gust and Corona/Halo/Glory. THunder is just terrible, would not use unless as a placeholder. Build 1 energy wep, get a taser (scourge), get 1 splash (cyro), get 1 shotty (either storm or corona is fine), get 1 flame (ember/ignitor), etc. When i say get 1, i mean get enough to outfit 1 bot with all matching weps. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:54:01 GMT -5
Ghost is a pilot skill available for certain bots, of which Lancelot is one. If you select it, you can't use the bot's ability anymore, but you get a major speed boost. For Lancelot that has no downside because its ability is Rush and Ghost boosts its speed permanently more than the temporary boost you get from Rush. And if you add on the Road Hog skill after that, it'll move even faster. Honestly a maxed Lance with that skill will probably be the strongest bot of those you listed in your hangar. Don't worry about dropping down to Masters. You're probably going to have to adjust how you play your bots against the new meta, but not a big deal. A lot of Champs games are pretty annoying anyway - just all Leeches Phase Shifting, so dropping to a league that fits your hangar better probably will be a bit more fun tbh. What do you recommend for a fun build that can still do pretty good against the meta? I'm not the type the guy that wud run 4 corona leeches like many champion league ppl i see. Depends on what you like to do....but, I recently won the components for a full Phantom, and just had a battle on Dreadnaught.....I was on top of the ship, drop my marker, run off the ship on top of reds, shooting, then teleport back to roof, rinse and repeat. Got a couple of kills and a big smile, lol I like it in close, so for me Fenrir is fun, but very expensive......T Falcon can disrupt like no ones business, but can be boring. Ao Jun, well, what’s not to like...just land well! Strider is fun but dies fast....anyways, Hope this gives you some ideas! |
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Post by shivaswrath on Jan 18, 2020 22:51:07 GMT -5
I don’t see a lot of Haechi in Champions League, mainly because of Phantoms and Leeches, but I have encountered tough Haechis. However, here are a couple observations. - most Phantoms are used as first bot for beacons - because of titans, which have Damage Mitigation (that ignores robots with damage resistance like Phantom and Leech), come out mid-late match, it is not advisable to drop those two mechs late game, and people are wising up to that. So, if those two are dangerous to Haechi and are generally used early match, then Haechi is for mid-late match. If you do run Haechi, you should get the legendary pilot for Haechi, equip relevant skills for optimal performance, and equip good modules like Heavy Armor Kits, Last Stand, and Phase Shift or Advance Repair Unit. The more durable your bot and the stronger your energy shield, the better you’ll do. For weapons, three Storm, three Corona, or three Cryo will do great. If you wanna use it as a midranger, try for three Pulsars Wouldn't the DR from the Haechi pilot get chewed up too, or does the ancille mitigate a little? |
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 18, 2020 23:02:09 GMT -5
I just returned after 1.5 years. When I left I was well into champ league. Getting owned now, but thankfully dropped back into masters so the fights are Fun again. I have 2 questions/- 1) my favorite bot before I left was orkan haechi. I have learned quickly that orkans aren’t what they used to be. With lockdown etc, I get smoked ALOT. Is this bot worth fielding anymore and if so, what should I replace orkans with? 2) my shocktrain Spectre used to be awesome midrange. The shocktrains also aren’t what they used to be (which is probably good). What is a fun, deadly midrange to replace this guy with? Thanks in advance for advice guys! Haven't gone through all the responses yet so don't know if anyone has said it already: Orkan Haechi = mostly a dinosaur now but in certain cases can be deadly. But, with the plethora of super tanks now, you have to be very careful of what you ambush. Ironically, I actually had more luck and fun with Exodus Carnage. They have a lot in common except the Carnage has Rush instead of Dash. Spectre - Shocktrains, if leveled high, can still be relevant. But, I'd advise on getting 4 Pulsars instead. 600m range, root and can dish out a ton of damage. Or, you can run Vortexes instead for close range behind cover lobbing fun. The Legendary Pilot for the Spectre boosts damage during Spectre's ability and this works well with the Vortexes and Pulsars. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 18, 2020 23:17:03 GMT -5
I don’t see a lot of Haechi in Champions League, mainly because of Phantoms and Leeches, but I have encountered tough Haechis. However, here are a couple observations. - most Phantoms are used as first bot for beacons - because of titans, which have Damage Mitigation (that ignores robots with damage resistance like Phantom and Leech), come out mid-late match, it is not advisable to drop those two mechs late game, and people are wising up to that. So, if those two are dangerous to Haechi and are generally used early match, then Haechi is for mid-late match. If you do run Haechi, you should get the legendary pilot for Haechi, equip relevant skills for optimal performance, and equip good modules like Heavy Armor Kits, Last Stand, and Phase Shift or Advance Repair Unit. The more durable your bot and the stronger your energy shield, the better you’ll do. For weapons, three Storm, three Corona, or three Cryo will do great. If you wanna use it as a midranger, try for three Pulsars Wouldn't the DR from the Haechi pilot get chewed up too, or does the ancille mitigate a little? The durability skills are not the same as DR, so the Haechi does not have DR. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 18, 2020 23:29:35 GMT -5
Wouldn't the DR from the Haechi pilot get chewed up too, or does the ancille mitigate a little? The durability skills are not the same as DR, so the Haechi does not have DR. Wait... they aren't? Like the Guardian pilot skills? Because they have the same symbol. How are they different? |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 18, 2020 23:55:05 GMT -5
The durability skills are not the same as DR, so the Haechi does not have DR. Wait... they aren't? Like the Guardian pilot skills? Because they have the same symbol. How are they different? Do they? My understanding was that DR is a built-in quality of the mech, whereas armor mods and durability skills simply increase hp. Am I wrong? Maybe that’s another one to check with Pixonic. I will write them tonight. |
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 19, 2020 0:12:01 GMT -5
Wait... they aren't? Like the Guardian pilot skills? Because they have the same symbol. How are they different? Do they? My understanding was that DR is a built-in quality of the mech, whereas armor mods and durability skills simply increase hp. Am I wrong? Maybe that’s another one to check with Pixonic. I will write them tonight. I think the wiki basically answers it. They're the same it's just that for skills (and Battle Born) the levels of resistance are initially expressed in "Defense Points." But defense points then translate to a certain percentage of Damage Resistance as outlined in the Battle Born article: warrobots.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_Born#Conversion_TableFor the robots, they just list the damage reduction percentage outright, but I think that's because DR on bots doesn't change with upgrades as it does with BB and Guardian skills. So ends up being the same mechanism, same symbol when in use, etc. |
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Post by icyfire on Jan 19, 2020 3:23:05 GMT -5
I was going to ask this myself lol. I am also a returning player. I quit around summer of 2018 my current setup is still what I had from before: Taran bulg scourge bulg shocktrain bulg orkan haechi taran ember inquisitor Looking at current meta, idk if I can catch up because i'm f2p for the most part. I think I spent like $50 before. I see a lot of corona leeches and so many new things. This one bot killed my full mk2 bulg with almost no hp left somehow and still survived while i was shooting at him point blank. Tarans hurt, alot, especially in groups of 4. Shocktrain can still kick @55 in the lower Champions League . group it by 4 in a Specter and go old school Meta on a Leech  Scourgasari is still valid in low Champions League if you use the shields correctly. Haechi, can still do it in low Champions League if leveled enough and loaded with Elsa and of course ice missiles. Dash, dash and Let it go! Lose the Taran and load 2 igniters + Ember on that Inquisitor and go Titan hunting. (best for Mid to end game) Have fun and Welcome back!! |
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Jan 19, 2020 3:49:22 GMT -5
Welcome back. Now that you've experienced champion league once again, ask yourself do you want to stay there.
If you do, try to chase the meta - juns, phantoms, leeches
If you don't, play with what you like and what's fun for you. Test server is a good place to try a setup, or just observe what looks fun in the battlefield
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