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Post by leee on Mar 17, 2017 16:22:32 GMT -5
Buffed tooo much pixo..
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 17, 2017 16:25:54 GMT -5
HUSH! don't say things like "buffed tooo much...," they might hear you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 16:27:14 GMT -5
Well, it needs to be equally effective as the Galahad... so that's going to take quite a buff.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 17, 2017 16:30:33 GMT -5
In fairness, some very smart gameplay did you no disservice here...
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 17, 2017 16:32:25 GMT -5
In fairness, some very smart gameplay did you no disservice here... Agreed... they were damn good. Excellent awareness, individual weapon utilization, and great grasp of the vertical dimension in as far as how to use it to an advantage.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 16:42:22 GMT -5
Nice! The speed and faster jumps make this the ultimate hit and run bot. I am really hoping this makes it to the game.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 17, 2017 17:01:12 GMT -5
Wait wait wait wait wait.
150k health? That's heavy level!
And it's ****ing running!?
And the cooldown timer for the jump is 7 seconds!?
If this makes it into the game then I want a rhino buff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 17:02:27 GMT -5
It's a Cossack combined with a Griffin!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 17, 2017 17:03:58 GMT -5
If you notice, Strayed, the whole game seems to be shifting up in HP... From the Vitz, Leo, Natty, and previous Rog buffs, to the new Prototypes' HP. I think they are pursuing the "buff till balanced" approach... and I am happy
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Post by Strayed on Mar 17, 2017 17:09:58 GMT -5
Not sure if I'll like the uptick in hp. Increasing the ttk will make it easier to respond to ambushes and flanking, lessen the value of cover and positioning, lengthen game times, etc.
To put it into perspective, this is basically a griffin that's traded off two of its light hardpoints in exchange for a smaller hitbox and more than double the speed.
While there is some value in buffing rather than nerfing, there are times where it goes too far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 17:16:35 GMT -5
Its a medium bot with a 2500au pricetag. It has to set itself apart somehow. Galahad has more total health between bot and shield. I think they may scale back the version that goes into the game. To me, the 7s cooldown is the key. Making it hop away from rockets continually will give it a whole new dimension. Plasma will still shred it pretty fast.
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Post by petevb on Mar 17, 2017 17:35:44 GMT -5
Watching that video I also thought it might have been buffed too much- it looked almost overpowered... until I realized that no one in that whole game ran any plasma? I'd wreck fools all day long with a Rog in a parallel, plasma free universe. But in the one we live in, with plasma Galahad, Griffin, Fury Zeus and Ancilot dominating top? I honestly wonder if this buff will be enough for me to run it. I'm still going to lose heads up to any of the plasma bots, while in close I won't have the punch to burn though Ancilot shields with Orkan.
Put it this way: back in the day before the Griffin speed buff I used to run two maxed Rogs- easily my favorite bot to play. But even pre Griff buff I retired the Rog due to the Griffin's higher firepower and health. The new Rog speed buff cancels the one the Griff got, so that's back to previous status quo. And now it's got 5% less health than the Griffin instead of 15%- better. But firepower is now more important than ever with the rise of Anciles and physical shields, and those two extra mags or Pinanta so often make the difference between punching through that shield or not.
So is this better than it was? Absolutely. Overpowered? I ask myself which bot I'd drop from my lineup- Plasma Galahad, Ancilot or DB Griffin. Maybe the last? But then I'll virtually lose the ability to wack Ancilots, so quite possibly not... Does look fun as hell though.
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Post by Heishiro on Mar 18, 2017 3:49:33 GMT -5
it might look buffed too much but im not sure if it can survive that long on open maps. for small map like PP and DC this guy will be somewhat OP.. maybe a little tweak? : HP 135K ? 140K; speed 48 ? 55 km/h; cooldown 10 ? 8s
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